Don't listen to those misleading Democratic TV ads-
Six Multi-Billionaires CAN't be wrong!!!!!
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Don't listen to those misleading Democratic TV ads-
Six Multi-Billionaires CAN't be wrong!!!!!
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Remember that if you cannot vote because Republicans have worked so hard to make it difficult for you to be part of the franchise you have all the more motive to find a way.
There's no denying it. They are using voter fraud to purge people from voter rolls, they are using the id issue, a seemingly sensible requirement to discourage the poor and the working class. But this only acknowledges that they're losing their grip on the public. There's a limit to what they can do and in time their efforts will be thwarted in the courts. In the meantime do anything you can to cast a vote against their underhanded and racist attempts to silence you.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...71a_story.html
This ruling is about a week and a half old but I haven't been following too closely. Federal law makes it illegal to purge voters within 90 days of an election. I imagine this is done so that if people are mistakenly purged they have the opportunity to correct the error. Here, a federal judge said that Florida election officials can remove 198 people from the rolls because they are suspected of being non-citizens. Personally, since this is a federal law that states voters should not be purged within 90 days it should not matter the reason. While I don't want non-citizens to vote, the risk that Florida, a Republican run state misidentifies individuals and suppresses votes is significant. Note that they initially had a much larger list of voters to purge until numerous obvious mistakes were found in it. They could have acted more than 90 days out when any mistakes they made could be corrected. That is not their intent. Voter suppression is. And the Judge? A Reagan appointee. I hope to read the actual opinion soon.
Whoever your choice, make sure your vote isn't suppressed. Get your papers, help your family, friends and neighbors get theirs and then vote.Quote:
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Why do we even have to discuss this?
The Republicans DESTROYED the economy of the entire World four years ago!!
end of story!
Did half the country sleep through that?
How many times do you have to say it?
VOTE!!!!
In Rhode Island where ethnic minorities and Democratic lawmakers are disproving the notion that voter identification laws are really about “voter suppression” and “racial discrimination.”
In response to multiple voter fraud complaints from his own constituents in Providence, Sen. Harold Metts, a black Democrat, led the charge in favor of a new photo voter identification law that is now operative in the Ocean State. Metts is far from alone, however. In fact, despite what the media would have you believe, minorities are more likely to support identification laws than white Americans.
However the legalities play out with regard to Gemma’s allegations, there is no getting around the hard fact that there is a long history of voter fraud in Rhode Island that calls out for serious reform, Sen. Metts, the lead sponsor of the voter ID bill, said in an interview. Although voter ID laws have stirred controversy in other states, the weight of evidence demonstrates that they are necessary, but must be carefully crafted, he noted.
“We always need to be concerned about potential disenfranchisement, and as lawmakers, we want to be mindful about becoming overly restrictive,” Metts said. “But we can no longer ignore the voter fraud issue. It would be a disservice to the citizens of Rhode Island to ignore either voter fraud or disenfranchisement; we had to bring balance.”
Rhode Island’s new law was tested for the first time during April’s presidential primary, when voters were asked to show drivers’ licenses, passports, birth certificates, or health club IDs. Voters who did not have the necessary identification were permitted to cast provisional ballots. Beginning in 2014, only a photo ID will be accepted, but the state will provide free IDs to anyone who needs them, and provisional ballots will remain in effect for anyone who lacks an ID on Election Day.
“I do feel validated by what has transpired recently, and I think everyone who supports voter ID should feel validated,” Metts said. “I had my own constituents come to me and complain about voter fraud, so we know it happens. Other states should look to Rhode Island as a model for voter ID laws. We did it right, and we did it in a way that was fair.”
Since 2011, Rhode Island is the only state with a Democratic legislature to pass a new voter ID requirement. The laws tend be more controversial in states where both parties are politically competitive and where a few votes could swing close elections, Metts suggested. There is no danger of the law “upsetting the apple cart” and turning Rhode Island into a Republican state, he said.
While there may valid concerns about some of the restrictions attached to certain Voter ID laws, Metts sees room for common ground.
“The keyword is balance,” he said. “There’s always a concern about disenfranchisement, and we should make every effort to ensure that everyone who is eligible to vote can vote. But it has gotten to the point where there is such fear over disenfranchisement that people just buried their heads when it comes time to deal with voter fraud, and that is not healthy for our democracy.”
By raising the bogus specter of racism to undermine and discredit new ID laws, the news media is doing a great disservice to those Americans who are victimized by voter fraud. The list includes Democratic Rep. Anastasia Williams, an African-American from Providence, RI, who was turned away from the polls after someone illegally voted in her place.
While it is fair for the news media to point out that Republicans have been the driving behind most of the new voter ID laws, it routinely fails to inform readers that a broad cross-section of Americans across party and racial lines support those same voter ID laws. In doing so, the NYT, and other liberal-leaning outlets, do a great disservice to those who are the victims of voter fraud.
In fact, polls show that minorities actually favor voter ID by a slightly higher margin than white Americans. John Fund, a senior editor for the American Spectator, who has authored several books on voter fraud, told audience members gathered at the “True the Vote” Summit in Houston earlier this year that those polls results should not be surprising.
“I believe the biggest victims of voter fraud today are minorities,” Fund said. “They obviously support [voter ID]; they think voter fraud is a more serious problem than anyone … Their leadership has failed them by yelling racism in a crowded little theater and by dividing us rather than uniting us. Their entire edifice is built on fraud and misrepresentation.”
You libs are probably winning the argument in here, but this place is hardly a cross section of society, it's a den of left wing inequity in here...sorry to break that to ya. .....but you're losing in the courts and in the court of public opinion. By next election, almost all states will have some form of voter ID requirements. Sorry, but you lose. My work here is done. :loser::loser:
In-Person Voter Fraud is non-existent. The only kind of voter fraud addressed by GOP lawmakers is In-Person Voting Fraud.
Don't be turned away at the polls. Find out the voting requirements of your State. Get the documentation in order. Help your family, friends and neighbors get theirs in order. Then go out and VOTE.
Any effective law should be rationally related to a legitimate government purpose. On its face requiring identification seems like a rational means of preventing voter fraud, a legitimate government end. However, when the side effect of remedying voter fraud is voter suppression of a much larger quantum, the legislation is what is called over-inclusive. It might be upheld in the long run but then we will develop more effective ways of getting out the vote. Either way, it's transparent how the law is being used and people won't forget what the Republicans stand for by taking such a tack.