I wasn't actually recommending you take a hiatus! Where have you gone? I did buy my truck from John Elway. See, I can be agreeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
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I wasn't actually recommending you take a hiatus! Where have you gone? I did buy my truck from John Elway. See, I can be agreeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
BTW (for the three or four people who will ever read this) the answer to the question "Do I want to see the FBI sweep the homes of psychiatric patients checking them for arsenals?" in post #1436 was supposed to be "NO." The numbered statements afterward are the reasons why "No" is the answer.
I'm sorry it's too late. Based on the original answer - phone calls have been made causing a chain reaction of events that are impossible to stop. I'm afraid you ogled your last tufted titmouse toots...you're coming with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
I was actually banned this whole month for making racist comments up in the porn section.
That's why I was lying low down here.
Let me put it this way: if you judge all people as self serving scum, you're probably half right.
Let me put an end to this throbbing boner of a discussion, you guys have worn me down (and out)...
My point....AGAIN....
Yes yes yes, send in the lawyers to tweak the gun code, and some nutcases in basements won't be able to sell their 50 round pistol clips on the internet and at gun shows. That is easy, and would do some good.
Just like the NRA, the American Car Making Empire resisted seat belts, because it would cost them money per each car. It has saved countless lives, and set a tone for car safety. Simply by enacting a simple law. And even if some people still break the law and don't click up, and even if the police don't really enforce it, it is a good thing.
My point, AGAIN, is that locking up a few guys for making banana clips in their garage is a drop in the bucket.
If you want to lay awake all night anguishing about something, try the tax code. That's how they got Capone.
We already have all the laws you need, but being in debt trillions of dollars means we can't enforce them.
The Government is broken because the Government is broke.
First things first, you guys are giving me a headache. I guess what goes around comes around. If you give the people freedom, build lots of jails.
The example of seatbelts is a very useful one. Gun control and reforming the tax code are not mutually exclusive! We have significant debt but also very good credit. I disagree that we lack funding to enforce our laws....
I saw an interview with Clint Eastwood wincing about his time as the Mayor of Malibu,.....he said when he was the Director of a big budget Motion Picture, he would tell people to jump, and they would say "how high?"
But when he was Mayor and told people what to do, his phone lines and office was packed with people who wanted to explain to him how wrong he was, better options, dangers, possible legal actions, and concerns.
So when I say "what we oughta do" here, I pretend that I am here on a special mission from the Starship Enterprise, going back in time to save the world, with a stern warning not to disrupt the space time continuum.
I have to consider that outlawing banana clips because some psycho shoots up a movie theatre probably means incarcerating a lot of trailer trash teen yahoos who have their banana clip toys hidden in their closet, next to their porn mags.
Whatever you decide, you're fucked either way, so you have to decide which course fucks the entire population the least. Whatever you do, when it comes to gun control, half the people are going to be disenchanted. You are going to be the arbiter of a Civil War, and you better make sure you don't have a personal agenda, be prepared to be nailed to the cross.
Even though we are at a stalemate with gun control and abortion, that may be better than one side winning. You can basically do anything you wanna do in the States, be a surfer bum or a CEO. That kind od chaos is good.
Economically, it's good to be a growing reckless teenager rather than an old wise fogie. Maybe being in debt trillions of dollars is a smart move, financially. I'm not really sure if it's better to be a transsexual escort who gets paid a grand to go to dinner, or the guy who can afford to pay a transsexual escort a grand to go to dinner. My World is Gen Tso's carryout.
I'm going to presume that the status quo is fucked, as usual, and take comfort in the fact that everything I'm writing here means nothing. That's a good thing.
I hope when I'm on Death Row it's for killing a tranny whore, not for blowing away a 7-11 clerk. I've heard a lot of those death row guys are voracious readers, and finally have the time to read some really epic books. You'd have to put a gun to my head to do that now.
Every American claims to love freedom above all else. Yet, taking away someone's freedom is the only punishment American's can ever seem to come up with for dealing with even the most petty criminal activity. Should we pass a law against banana clips, how 'bout we give those banana clip owning trailer boys some community service? It's not like there isn't a town in the U.S. that couldn't use some pothole fillin' and some garbage cleanup. As for those dealers who make a living selling illegal arms illegally, fine their asses. They were makin' money, now take it. Of course, if they can be linked to more serious crime (like they sold arms to a psycho who went out and killed someone), then you can talk jail. But mostly save the jail time for the asshats who shoot, maim and kill.
Because whoring is against the law, or 7-11's are just awesome stores?Quote:
I hope when I'm on Death Row it's for killing a tranny whore, not for blowing away a 7-11 clerk.
What DOES that 't' stand for?
That thievin' whore stole my wallet, Your Honor, it was a crime of passion.
My friend's friend did a stretch for owning a machine gun, you might as well say he did a stretch for being an idiot, the only person he would ever kill is himself by accident, or his girlfriend Sue, and that would be no great loss to society, trust me.
Guns really are safer than cars in the hands of somebody with their shit together, take your car out on the streets and you put your life in the hands of some drunk.
My main man Obama said EVERYBODY should get out there on the weekend and clean those rivers and pick up beercans off the median. I think that's what the T stands for.
Yup...another one. Plus another one WILL happen before this year is over. BANK ON IT.
Oregon has concealed carry. What happened to all those good guys with guns who are supposed to stop this sort of thing?
Just a few days a ago and man’s car was being hijacked by, of course, a bad guy who, of course, was unarmed. Two armed good guys, of course shooting it up, came to the rescue. Trouble was, they shot the carjacking victim, of course accidentally, in the head. Since they collected their shell casings and skedaddled the nature of the accident remains unclear: was the victim mistaken for a jacker? was he shot by a stray bullet, or did the good guys just get carried away? So much for the good-guys-with-guns theory.
http://www.khou.com/story/news/2015/...tion/72923278/
If you gotta carry, please carry it out in the open so we can see your prized toy, laugh at your paranoia and avoid your company.
M' Main Man B H Obama showed perfect timing to alert the masses to the danger of guns lying around,
Democrats alone will not solve the gun problem, you need both parties to get on board with this.
This isn't a gun problem, it's an American problem, and Americans are going to have to point the finger at ourselves to solve it. Not point fingers at Republicans.
Right on, the Democrats are on board with that. But pointing at ourselves won't do the trick. The republicans need to get on board too.
If the President's name was O'Bama, he might be able to turn a few Repulicans. Butt alas: We all know that he's a Muslim from Kenya who wants to disarm all the "right thinking" consealed patriots so he can give the country to ISIS, & the nuclear arsenal to Iran.
I get that American's as a whole don't like their Governments curtailing their personal freedoms. I get that you don't like "Big Government". I simply don't get how it's right for ordinary citizens to own automatic weapons (wtf!). Isn't the reference to the constitution and its right to bear arms fallacious as it ascribes that right to organised militia and not Joe Public? You have managed to alter your constitution in the past - your managed to sort out the Three-Fifths issue - so why can't you see common sense and do the same with gun control?
You got us all wrong. Actually we like big government. We encourage government to get involved in women’s reproductive decisions. We’re disappointed when the government doesn’t stand between a gay man and his domestic partner. We hate when the government doesn’t fix the pothole in front of our house. We petition the government to prevent Mosques from establishing themselves too close to the site of the 9/11 memorial, or too close to Kentucky. Half the Republican party is so geriatric they’re on medicare. The other half is so diabetic they’re on disability. And they love it. They demand on big signs: “Keep Your Government Mits Off My Medicare.” We like when FedEx hands our packages off the the Post Office so we don’t have to be home to sign for them when they’re delivered by the government. (Also if FedEx had to come to our podunk towns in the middle of nowhere to deliver our packages, they just wouldn’t do it). We want the government to put pot smokers, meth-heads, heroine addicts and other junkies in jail. We love the tax loopholes and protections government provides billionaires, ‘cause any day, now anyone of us could win the lottery. We want the government to build more jails. Our towns compete for them. We want the government to build a giant wall on our southern border (and perhaps mine the coasts - I really don’t know what we’ll do about the coasts). We want the government to bomb the shit out of Iran, smack Putin, oust Assad. There ain’t no end to what we want the government to do for us.
What we hate is the Constitution. We don’t want atheists expressing their beliefs in the public square, especially at Christmas. We want the government to endorse Christian values for no other reason than they’re Christian values. We have no problem with the use of government bodies and investigatory commissions to persecute individuals for political gain. We interpret the shit out the Second Amendment because we don’t like the strong suggestion there that gun ownership is not a individual right. We hate the protections provided to minorities provided by the 14th Amendment. We hate Birthright Citizenship as guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. We’re talking about getting rid of that - somehow.
What we really love is shoot-’em-ups, good guys puttin’ away bad guys and toys that promise we can all be heros but in the end can only deliver bullets.
Take a bow. That was excellent ... :D
(Gloomy and dispiriting, but excellent)
Republicans have a name for a fully automatic AR-15 owner: Uncle Kenny
Karl Rove has a name for a gun nut and Evangelist: voter
The GOP has a name for AK-47 totin' inner city gangbangers: Democrats
Americans have a name for Nuclear superiority: World Peace
Well, God Bless (delete) Help America
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...a-gun-violence
An interesting overview of how the killers got their guns in mass shooting over recent years, which suggests that if US legislators are too timid to tackle gun ownership (one wonders if they care about the killings anyway), they can at least tighten up and in some cases extend the laws and regulations to prevent people from purchasing weapons in the first place. It can be done, though as the article shows it also requires existing laws and regulations to be applied more carefully so that individuals who are clearly in need of help do not express their need for it through violence.
The article intro says it all:
Criminal histories and documented mental health problems did not prevent at least eight of the gunmen in 14 recent mass shootings from obtaining their weapons, after federal background checks led to approval of the purchases of the guns used
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ype=Multimedia
I think that whatever can be done consistent with the 2nd amendment should be done. Better background checks, limits on gun ownership by those with criminal records and serious mental health problems. These are things that will have some benefit.
I also think that if we did not have a second amendment, extremely tight controls on weapon ownership would greatly reduce these kinds of crimes. There would still be an underground market but people would simply not have them around when they snap. The most effective prevention against all of these gun deaths would just be a severe reduction in the number of available weapons. This would mean that over time having guns and using them would not be part of our culture or mindset.
Of course democrats will say they want to work within the parameters of the second amendment as it is currently interpreted because expressing a desire to go further plays into the paranoia of those who think we want to take their guns away. There is no we ....but as an outlier view, I actually wish we could take their guns away and replace them with something useful. Mind you this is not me expressing the secret desire of democrats who want to confiscate all of the guns....just my own personal view that severely restricting ownership would have positive social consequences.
Fed up and bored Americans on their sofas sense that even if gun violence were reduced to zero, we would still be faced by the national debt, crime, corruption, poverty, the middle east, terrorism, unemployment, etc etc etc etc etc....................
While mental patients with guns are hard to get a handle on, the number of gun dealers who arm the criminal element is actually a pretty small percentage, and you can tackle problems like that, simply take away their licenses. Gun show loopholes and weak background checks can be changed. Let the NRA defend recklessness.
But pointing the finger at the NRA is pretty much the status quo, we've had Democratic Presidents with both houses of congress that have achieved practically nothing to change the gun culture mentality, and I don't think we ever will.
The Last Thing the first Black President wants to appear as is Black, and the last thing the first Woman President wants to appear as is a Woman. Trump has gotten attention because ha APPEARS to be a candidate that can shakes things up, I think you might find Hillary a bigger egomaniac than Trump, in the future bored Americans might actually want her to slow down and go back in the kitchen when she gets steam shooting out of her vagina throwing her weight around in national and world affairs. Unlike Jeb who wants to put people to sleep, Hillary wants to wake them up. She is back on her heels right now, this is Trump time, but she has this thing all mapped out, and the last thing you are going to see for eight years is the housewife who sits quietly on the sofa. Lord help us all. Hillary will scare lots of people.
Whoever said tighter firearm regulation will cure the national debt, corruption, poverty, the Middle East and unemployment? (though it can be expected to have an effect on crime and domestic terrorism).
Agreed. Most of the psychotic gunman of the past couple of decades obtained their guns legally. However few of them there were (or however few the dealers who sold them their guns) you only have to reflect that each of these psychos murdered in the neighborhood of ten or more people to realize that had we taken the trouble to keep a few dealers from selling them lethal weapons we would have saved at least ten times that many lives.Quote:
While mental patients with guns are hard to get a handle on, the number of gun dealers who arm the criminal element is actually a pretty small percentage, and you can tackle problems like that, simply take away their licenses. Gun show loopholes and weak background checks can be changed. Let the NRA defend recklessness.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...dayspaper&_r=0
Also agree. But probably not with the intended meaning. The gun lobby (of which the NRA is a major player) is largely responsible for the Congressional impasse, not the gun culture. In survey after survey Americans generally favor tighter gun regulation. But gerrymandering renders the opinion of most American’s nearly mute, when monied special interests fill the campaign coffers.Quote:
pointing the finger at the NRA is pretty much the status quo, we've had Democratic Presidents with both houses of congress that have achieved practically nothing to change the gun culture mentality,...
You keep saying this but never offer any support for your expectation. So I keep saying: if it’s so in the bag, why does the NRA continue to spend almost all its resources lobbying Congress and marketing its opinion? Why has the number of gun owning households dropped from 50% to 30% over the last half century? Why do most people say they favor tighter gun laws? Gun culture, gun scmulture (okay that didn’t work). Culture, after all, is volatile. Once upon a time everybody smoked. Once upon a time, everybody was appalled by the very existence of gays. Once upon a time nobody used their seat-belts.Quote:
...and I don't think we ever will.
The gun culture isn’t even a real thing, it’s a fabrication. Yes, we always loved our cowboy movies and our cop and robber shows even before the repeal of the assault weapons ban in 2005, but no one would’ve said in 1950 that we have a gun culture. Rory Rogers never killed a single bad guy on his show. The gun culture came into existence when the Culture Wars were fabricated by political spin-masters who are in the business of convincing you that your civic duty should be a simple as matching a candidate to your lifestyle choice. Do you drive a truck? Listen to country music? Own a shotgun? The Democrats are gonna put their pinko emissions control on that truck, censor your tunes and take away your shotgun. It’s all claptrap.
Here you’re either nuts or just making shit up. I would admit that it takes an egomaniac to even consider running for president of the U.S., but no one is a bigger egomaniac than Trump.Quote:
I think you might find Hillary a bigger egomaniac than Trump,
That goes without saying. We live in a nation where some people claim they’re afraid to leave the house in broad daylight without carrying a concealed firearm. What the name Hillary Clinton will do is polarize people. The reason I voted for Obama instead of Clinton way back when was I thought she polarized the electorate. Not so much Hillary herself, but all the politically inspired ‘investigations’ of the Clintons from Whitewater, the alleged murder of Vince Foster, the Monica Lewinsky blow job scandal and the resulting impeachment. Now add to that the email non-scandal, the Benghazi tragedy and the dynasty factor. Her campaign, if it flies at all, will encounter a lot of drag. Still, none of those negatives are real criticisms of her...they are entirely political fabrications aimed at her candidacy.Quote:
Hillary will scare lots of people.
Change happens by generation whether people like it or not. Often it seems at a snails pace...but that's on a personal level, not a historical level. Sometimes people don't think things will change because most folks feel they are level headed, common sense type, individuals who must (surely in their own minds) represent all other level headed, common sense type folks - also known as the "average person." Kooks don't usually think they're kooks...lol. So often delusional people think they are posting prose instead of bull shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
But generations change...people form social contacts with other people that previous generations sometimes never came into contact with...except for maybe during wartime (some white men never really had social contact with black men until they had to share a trench and cover each others butts on the battlefield...nothing's an eye opener quite like that)...
...and it's going to happen faster and faster because of the internet.
Sure, the internet can sometimes be even more polarizing: Hateful people can find other hateful people across the globe and fuel each others hatreds at an ever more combustible level...but it can also educate people that would never have had scales removed from their eyes any other way.
So, often people don't think other people can change because they themselves can't change...or continue to live in an area stuck in time (small towns can be like that) and are therefore somewhat blinded to the very changes going on around them.
Hell, I've changed..and so have some of my family, friends and coworkers.
On the Hillary Clinton thing...I don't think the Hillary of today is the same Hillary that faced President Obama,...and that Hillary wasn't the same before becoming a Senator...who wasn't the same person who came in as the President's wife. I believe she is now just a mired, establishment politician.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, unlike other folks ...people like that are often the safest to elect...but I don't agree that the scandals weren't scandals. They were probably dragged on too long - that's the political bullshit part , but I feel they were legitimately brought up. The email scandal probably has more to do with a bit of obtuseness then criminality, but that says something also. There's a reason Bernie Sanders is doing so well.
I probably should have saved that for another thread...but I don't work like that...lol
Indeed change happens.
(I'll mostly refrain from answering the Hlllary comments here so as not to derail the thread again...except to say that Hillary's use of her email was legal and standard operating procedure in Washington until halfway through her time in office; and that her email was secure whereas it was the State Department emails that China successfully hacked. Perhaps another thread. I do like Sanders. Wish I knew which had a better chance of winning the Presidency. )
You guys can talk guns here but nothing will be done in DC til Hillary is prez, WORD.
Trump is going to drop out of the race when his ratings go down, he's an egomaniac, sure, but he's a businessman and he'll go on to something else. Hillary has had her fingernails dug into a fixation of being President for, what,....24 years?
Roy Rogers was the singing Cowboy, he makes a nice roast beef sandwich. Maybe he never killed anybody, but all the bad guys on his show carried guns.
The plot of EVERY TV show or movie revolves around some kind of conflict, be it the NFL, or a soap opera, or a war movie.
People struggle with traffic, their job, bills,.....but I've never seen a shoot-out in my life.
I read about the statistics ....I believe them. So that must mean there is some kind of gun culture here. Somekind of something.
If less households own guns and more people are in favor of gun control, who is shooting people? The NRA? Congress?
I suppose living in a flock or sheep is better than living in a pack of wolves,
I'm old enough to remember Woodstock. And Altamont.
People change, yes. But nothing will really change gun violence stats until you actually start removing guns. And nobody is talking about that out loud.
IN MY OPINION, guns and abortion will be a hot button issue for a long time.
Gene Autry was the singing cowboy, geez and you claim to be an old guy.
Every narrative in every literary form revolves around conflict...even musical forms progress to a climax with harmonic tension and resolve to the tonic. But the NRA wasn't always about the Second Amendment, personal security and guns weren't always a lifestyle choice and a hidden accessory that you carried on your person everywhere you went. The gun-culture is an overlay that political spin doctors invented to suck the apolictical into their fold.
So you're disputing that fewer households own guns now than in the fifties? Look it up. Who's shooting people? Assholes who shouldn't have guns obviously. You opined in your last post that these people were few in number. If you're changing your mind, perhaps I should just take my leave and let you argue with yourself.Quote:
If less households own guns and more people are in favor of gun control, who is shooting people?
Except the police in those cities which have buy-back programs. But look how you've changed the goal posts here. You opined the gun-culture is real and people won't change, and now you say people do change, but gun violence stats won't. I'm of the opinion that if people's attitudes towards guns change significantly, the rest will eventually follow. The very fact that this is a hot button issue means that it's a volatile issue; i.e. unsettled. It could go on like this for another decade or it could change overnight.Quote:
People change, yes. But nothing will really change gun violence stats until you actually start removing guns. And nobody is talking about that out loud.
Pinched from somewhere on the Web.
I do admit the statistics are scary, I halfway expect to step over a bullet riddled body on my way to my driveway.
The only truly effective way to get our stats to Canadian levels would be to outlaw all guns, and I would not be opposed to this, I would gladly turn in my gun if it saved one kid's life. HOWEVER, I would also not be opposed to making machine guns legal. When in Rome,........
I know a few guys that have had gun collections, they were all legal, some for hunting, some for target shooting, some for collecting. I've known many more people who used cocaine, back in the day, half of them were girls who freaked when they got speeding tickets. Guilty of using narcotics!!!
How come Trish grades my posts like my 10th grade teacher grading my English paper?
I do not understand how a Nation can be so violence crazy, but coils in fear in the back of a jet while four guys with box cutters fly the plane into buildings. I am concerned that a small number of criminals and crazies dictate policy.
There are all kinds of truth. Truths. I can swing with all of them. Like was said long ago "I don't fight with the World, The World fights with Me"
If Congress enacts new gun laws, I think that would be great. But I absolutely don't believe it would effect the number of school shootings. In fact I guarantee it won't. The Laws aren't the problem. The People are.
After Columbine the teachers dissolved my niece's Shakespeare club.
So just what is the probability of finding a bullet riddled cadaver on your way to your driveway? Does halfway means the odds are 50-50? Surely things aren’t that scary! Maybe you should move.Quote:
I do admit the statistics are scary, I halfway expect to step over a bullet riddled body on my way to my driveway.
Yet Canada hasn’t outlawed all guns. Perhaps what we need is set of reasonable gun laws and a few mounted police to enforce them. The media spun fiberglass veneer we call the gun culture is less to blame than the lack of law and the unwillingness of a majority of the current majority (think Hastert rule) to make any laws; because that half doesn’t even believe in the right of the people to govern themselves through legislative bodies. It’s the fabricated culture that encourages the legislative bottleneck, but it’s the bottleneck that allows these horrid incidents to occur month after month at the rate they do.Quote:
The only truly effective way to get our stats to Canadian levels would be to outlaw all guns, and I would not be opposed to this, I would gladly turn in my gun if it saved one kid's life.
But machine guns are outlawed in this country; i.e. in our home. So how does the when-in-Rome rule apply?Quote:
I would also not be opposed to making machine guns legal. When in Rome,........
?? This paragraph is irrelevant. Remove it from the final draft.Quote:
I know a few guys that have had gun collections, they were all legal, some for hunting, some for target shooting, some for collecting. I've known many more people who used cocaine, back in the day, half of them were girls who freaked when they got speeding tickets. Guilty of using narcotics!!!
Also irrelevant. Leave it out.Quote:
How come Trish grades my posts like my 10th grade teacher grading my English paper?
To be fair, up until 9-11 when planes were hijacked, they were flown to locations outside the country where the hijackers could escape the clutches of the law. 9-11 was just about the first time hijacked planes were used as ordinance. Once the passengers of United Airlines Flight 93 figured that out, it was the virtual end of all airline hijacking.Quote:
I do not understand how a Nation can be so violence crazy, but coils in fear in the back of a jet while four guys with box cutters fly the plane into buildings. I am concerned that a small number of criminals and crazies dictate policy.
As far as being violence crazy, I think you’re just buying into the media spin. We Americans do, however, have some difficulty distinguishing between fact and fiction. We seem to think that guns will make us more secure, rev up our testosterone levels and buy us the opportunity to prove we’re heroes, when in fact they make us less secure, involve us in serious accidents and demonstrate what an asshat an armed citizen can be.
They and the TSA have certainly have made flying miserable. The airlines, cramming in more and more and tinier and tinier seats, don’t help either: not to mention their habit of overbooking. They can take a reservation, but they don’t seem to know how to keep one.Quote:
I am concerned that a small number of criminals and crazies dictate policy.
Yes there are the statements that accurately depict the observable facts; and then there are the exclamatory assertions of Carly Fiorina. A handy rule of thumb that may help is: If two statements are in direct logical contradiction, at least one of them is not true.Quote:
There are all kinds of truth. Truths. I can swing with all of them.
Not sure what a guarantee means in this context: do we get our money back if you’re wrong? Or should we just be happy with the lives that are saved by the regulations that you absolutely guaranteed would not to diminish the murder rate of students by armed mass killers?Quote:
If Congress enacts new gun laws, I think that would be great. But I absolutely don't believe it would effect the number of school shootings. In fact I guarantee it won't.
The lack of appropriate regulation is.Quote:
Laws aren't the problem.
From context, I’m assuming the reason it was discontinued was somehow connected to that particular shooting. On the face of it, that sounds pretty stupid. On second thought, your final line is pretty irrelevant to the general flow of your essay. Leave it out of the final draft.Quote:
After Columbine the teachers dissolved my niece's Shakespeare club.
This wouldn't have happened if the 8 year old had been armed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34450841
Why are NRA conventions usually held in "gun-free zones"?
If you are really committed to changing whatever it is we're talking about, promise a bunch of little black teens 72 buckets of KFC if they shoot up some white churches with machine guns. Two kids per church armed to the teeth with exotic illegal weapons from the street and internet. Instead of confederate flags they wear gang colors. And O. J. masks. Aim for a REALLY high body count. Don't worry about the death aspect, the white people will go to heaven, and the black kids will be rock stars in jail.
After the fifth or sixth massacre, white folks will be screaming for tighter regulations. CHANGE
It's not that Americans don't get outraged about senseless killings, it's just that the body counts aren't BIG enough yet.
It's like when the scary Nazi Doctor dug into fresh nerves in Dustin Hoffman's teeth.........
"Is it safe?"
"Is it safe?"
To protect the neighbourhood cats?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben in LA
"I am concerned that a small number of criminals and crazies dictate policy."
Despite Trish's sidestep about the aggravation of air travel, this sentence, at the end of a ranting paragraph by buttinger, is the most poignant statement in this entire conversation.
This isn't really about guns, or individual incidences at all. It's about the constant attempt, by the "infotainment" industry to "terrorize" the nation so it can sell more snakeoil. "Wag the dog". "I'm mad as hell & I'm not going to take it anymore!" Just sayin'...
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How come Trish grades my posts like my 10th grade English teacher grading my English paper?
I don't know what was the most poignant statement but this was the funniest sequence.:tongue:Quote:
Also irrelevant. Leave it out.
English teachers are the best at destroying self-confidence. Just as a throw-away anecdote, I once had an English teacher tell me to "scrap the first page, it goes nowhere slowly." For my next assignment I wanted to write an essay on why it's better to go nowhere slowly than quickly because it shows one lacks the aptitude for going nowhere. But she told me to scrap the idea it was irrelevant. Her intuition was generally very good.
just a little update on my city. Last week a 6 month old baby girl was shot and killed. She was in the car with her mother and grandmother at 5:30 in the afternoon. Speculation is the tho shooter had the wrong car. So in the last month a 5 year old, and 3 year old, and now a 6 month have been killed, presumably by gang violence here.
Is there no hope for these old industrial towns that were once our pride? Sad, sad news.