Was the landing on the moon a fake?

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Originally Posted by trish

I was taught GW was the first president of the U.S. under the Constitution. So were you. And it's true. By truncating the phrase to "first president" and then reinterpreting it[s] meaning one can argue Hansen was the first president. But that doesn't show we can't be reasonably certain of things. It only shows you can manipulate language.

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He was. Prior to 1787, the United States of America wasn't a nation. It was a confederation of independent states. Like the EU.

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Originally Posted by deee757

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Originally Posted by 2009AD

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Originally Posted by deee757

Once again, I already provided a link that shoes you Nasa admitting that footage you saw is reproduction

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You clearly did not understand what you read.

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Have u ran out of facts and rebuttals? lol not bad for an ignorant nigger huh? Dont feel bad, i have have three articles published in APA journals.

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No, again you need to work on your reading comprehension. You did not understand the AP article, that's obvious.

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Originally Posted by trish

Why would sounding better be a better recommendation than truth? That GW was the first president under the constitution is the truth, not legend. That Hansen was first under some other definition of "first president" is also true. No one's has been shown by your arguement to be teaching legend.

The only thing your example shows is that ambiguous phrases can be interpreted different ways. That little lesson, though true, has no relevance to the issue of the Moon Landing. It not as if you and I have different meanings of the "the Apollo 11 Moon Landing" and under one interpretation it happened and under another it didn't.

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Ok, you were taught GW was the first president of the united states, I dont know about u, but no one said, the first president under our current constitution, they just said first president. That is legend, it sounds better than saying he was the 9th president since the US was established. Moon landing is what we were taught, but as technology gets more advanced this event has always lost footage, lost data, can not reproduce the specs involved, now we have a NASA article talking about how they lost the tapes and required studio reproduction. In this case its better for us if we believe the legend that we actually walked on the moon

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Originally Posted by trish

sorry, Hippiefried. my misunderstanding.

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Really? I wouldn't have known it by your answer. I was replying to Deee. There was no Yahoo or RSS or internet in '69. It was live TV, via translator towers. Even cable was in it's infancy & only available in rural areas.

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Originally Posted by 2009AD

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Originally Posted by deee757

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Originally Posted by 2009AD

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Originally Posted by deee757

Once again, I already provided a link that shoes you Nasa admitting that footage you saw is reproduction

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You clearly did not understand what you read.

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Have u ran out of facts and rebuttals? lol not bad for an ignorant nigger huh? Dont feel bad, i have have three articles published in APA journals.

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No, again you need to work on your reading comprehension. You did not understand the AP article, that's obvious.

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deee757 understands only what he wants to understand, don't let some minor details like FACTS fool him :wink:

Okay, then you admit, in the Hansen vs GW issue it's just a matter of definition of "first president", but the Moon Landing issue is a matter of evidence. The two are epistemically unrelated.

The footage of the Moon Landing still survives because NASA wasn't the only entity recording the original broadcast. The same is true of the telemetry. The most compelling evidence is the physical evidence. Anyone, if they go to NASA and get the lunar coordinates, can bounce a laser beam off the mirrors that were left at the Apollo 11 site. U.S. used to make measurement every day using those mirrors. Even though[] that program was recently cut, other observatories around the world are still dedicate[d] to using laser ranging to monitor the dynamics of the lunar orbit.

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NASA recorded over their tapes of the landing. Geezle! How bonehead is that? & these are the clowns that are supposed to have pulled off the biggest hoax in histiory with 1969 technology???

Oh BTW: Those were reel to reel tapes. There were no VCRs in '69. I wonder if the people looking for the originals realize that. For christsake, these bozos might be looking for a cassette or a Betamax.

Well that's what the YAHOO news link reported. Who knows if they were taped over, misplaced by the Smithsonian or sitting on the shelf alongside some old Marilyn Chambers porno reels.

Well, I want to get some work done tomorrow morning, so I'm calling it a night. Nice to "see" you Hippiefried. Night everybody. And no deee, my leaving doesn't mean I relinquish my position.