2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

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Originally Posted by KnightHawk 2.0

A Question For My Fellow Posters: What if President Joe Biden decided to end his campaign for reelection and step aside,and Vice President Kamala Harris becomes the president and the Democratic Nominee,and Joe Biden gives her his full support. Do y'all think the other members of the Party jump on board and support her?.

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I think the party would, but I'm not so sure about the American people.

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Originally Posted by filghy2

I don't think they would have any choice, because challenging that solution would be very messy and they would be blamed for creating disunity. The only way someone else could get it would be if Biden nominated them.

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Agree if the other members of Democratic Party don't want to support Kamela Harris as the nominee ,even though she would be the rightful nominee. And them choosing to go in another direction by picking someone else as their nominee would create a very messy situation,and they would be blamed for disunity within the party.

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Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo

I think the party would, but I'm not so sure about the American people.

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I think that most members of the Democratic Party would support Kamela Harris as the nominee,if President Joe Biden made the decision to end his campaign. Some of the american people will,some of them won't.

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Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo

They need to have the candidate to replace him. Who is it? Who doesn't alienate independent voters more than Biden?

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Do you believe that Biden can effectively make the case against Trump and perform the job for the next 4 years? If the answer is no, and you also believe that Trump is a threat to democracy, then surely something must be done even if it's risky.

Risk aversion is not a good strategy when you are well behind and the stakes are high.

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Originally Posted by Stavros

The point is that if he is in office, but resigns or dies or is removed, the Vice President automatically takes over. This may even be what Harris and her supporters are thinking.

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To clarify -my post assumed a Biden victory in November. If for whatever reason Biden withdraws before November, Harris will be President, but the Democrat Convention, whose delegates are there to nominate Biden via the Primaries, will face the question -must they open up the Convention to a 'super Primary' in which the Delegates nominate and then select their Candidate? I don't know the rules so I am making this assumption.

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Originally Posted by filghy2

Do you believe that Biden can effectively make the case against Trump and perform the job for the next 4 years? If the answer is no, and you also believe that Trump is a threat to democracy, then surely something must be done even if it's risky.

Risk aversion is not a good strategy when you are well behind and the stakes are high.

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A hypothetical candidate is not the answer. Of course one can conceive that there is a better candidate, but there has to be a name. And that name has to go through the process of gaining Democratic delegates to get the nomination.

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Originally Posted by filghy2

If people still backing Biden really believe the debate was just an aberration and he's still capable of campaigning effectively there's an obvious way to prove it. Have him do a series of tough interviews where he will be grilled and has to come up with responses off the cuff. If they continue to shield him it suggests they don't actually believe their own lines.

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Would an interview with George Stephanopoulos count?

http://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/media/...los/index.html

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Originally Posted by blackchubby38

Would an interview with George Stephanopoulos count?

http://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/media/...los/index.html

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I guess it's a start, though I don't know what Stephanopolous has been saying. It would be good to have someone who has been sceptical.

There also needs to be more than just one. Only four proper interviews in an election year is not good. They have clearly been shielding him from scrutiny.

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Originally Posted by filghy2

I guess it's a start, though I don't know what Stephanopolous has been saying. It would be good to have someone who has been sceptical.

There also needs to be more than just one. Only four proper interviews in an election year is not good. They have clearly been shielding him from scrutiny.

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Have you ever watched a Donald Trump interview?

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Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo

Have you ever watched a Donald Trump interview?

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The fact is that Biden is behind and has been for some time. The onus is on him to change people's minds.

The idea that we could ignore Biden's shortcomings because Trump is worse is exactly why we are in this position. Like it or not, clearly not enough voters are convinced.