show me the law that says everyone isnt in the militia.
they asked me since when did "well regulated" mean a certain thing. well it meant that when they wrote it. so it was on topic from a question from dan.
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show me the law that says everyone isnt in the militia.
they asked me since when did "well regulated" mean a certain thing. well it meant that when they wrote it. so it was on topic from a question from dan.
Show me the law that says everyone isn't a fish.
I live in a crimson red state. Weeks before Obama I started seeing "Impeach Obama" bumper stickers. At the same time, local rock and country stations started claiming Obama was coming for your guns. Six years later the right is still spouting the same nonsense.
They are if anything a model of consistency.
The ego-inflated gun lobby is like the blind man describing an elephant, you have to see the system of laws as a whole, not a trunk or a tusk or a tail. People don't buy guns for the one minute of their entire life that they might actually need one, they want one for the immediate self gratification it gives them. I'm not knocking self gratification, but jerking off in public is a short range fix that might signify other issues going on in your life besides your right to free speech. If you look at life and all the laws as a whole, there are a thousand things you need in life more important than a gun.
That being said, my buddy had a pair of vintage Colts in a real nice leather holster, and when I strapped those babies on it felt better than sex. It felt really good. The leather. The weight. Step back motherfucker!!! haw haw haw.
Nine year old girl and an Uzi. What could possibly go wrong?
I'm guessin' the Platinum Package is the one where you get to kill a guy.
I wonder if the Hamburgers are any good?....
They release one of those pesky ATF agents into the desert and you get to hunt and kill him...but it isn't really dangerous because it turns out the agent is "farm bred", not wild...Quote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
...another typical canned hunt.
...on top of that, she probably couldn't see him anyway - he did have camouflage on...Quote:
Originally Posted by timmartin
Oh and, for anyone that thinks that statement was insensitive cause someone died...
you're right.
...so I apologize for the poor nine year old girl , who might be traumatized for the rest of her life because, no matter what people tell her, she 'may' believe for the rest of her life that she was, at least partially to blame, for killing that instructor...
...when , in fact,...the folks most "partially to blame" were her stupid ass parents.
...SMDH at people thinking the best vacation for their nine year old little girl would be firing an uzi.
wondering what kind of people would think its appropriate for a 9 year-old kid to learn how to shoot an automatic weapon. Maybe her dad was going to take her out and kill a few bears, or a couple of thousand. Now they'll have lots of time to wallow in their gun obsessed misery
When I was about her age we went with the scouts, or school, ...whatever, to the FBI HQ for a guided tour, and at the end an agent fired off an entire clip from a tommy gun, we were digging it!!!
If you asked the Moms of America to list in order what is bad for the fabric of these United States : Guns, Booze, Marital Infidelity, or Transsexuals, they'll say boys will be boys, but trannys are just plain sick.
Guns came over on the Mayflower. They're SUPPOSED to be dangerous! And while the need has passed, the want hasn't.
Guns are just one more problem in the mix with racism, poverty, terrorists, crime, nobody's going to quit their job to tackle these pressing issues. They'll complain that Congress should do something about it. Even shock value has lost it's shock value. People flock to sensationalism. Flock, I say!!!
I'm still waiting for this ban folks keep talking about...
As my better half observes: the parents will go to their graves thinking that they've done nothing wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by fred41
It was in Arizona.Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
Meanwhile here in Ohio, a Black man was killed inside a Walmart by police, holding a toy gun (perhaps an air gun) that was on sale in the store. He was not behaving in a threatening manner, I understand. A couple in the store, who saw him with the object started following him, telling others that they were in danger, and called police. Also a bystander died in the parking lot, running away from the scene, in an apparent panic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop...dies-incident/
A more recent version of the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by yodajazz
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/2...attorney-says/
Two more Black children growing up, without knowing their bio dad. I would not be surprised if they grow up with anger issues.
Not long ago a Florida Mom is arrested for letting her seven year old child walk alone to a nearby park to play. (http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/living...sted-son-park/)
But nothing happens to the parents of a nine year old girl who accidentally killed a firearms instructor with an Uzi while her parents caught the whole incident on film. WTF? Why is Arizona allowing children to shoot these kinds of weapons?
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ahahahahahah So fuckin true.Quote:
Originally Posted by martin48
From my FB...
So you can't drive until you're 16, smoke until 18, drink until 21 but you can FIRE AN UZI at 9 years old??? Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with those numbers.
Or watch a horror flick....Quote:
Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
Kids can't watch, say, John Carpenter's Halloween but can pick up an Uzi....
I'm not saying kids should watch horror flicks. I'm simply pointing out laws are strange, nonsensical....
And, too, we're exposed to so much violence in this culture.
The culture -- especially our movies -- are violence saturated.
Do movies glorify guns? What explains the gun culture?
Anyway, all of this makes sense... in a gun culture, as it were.
I'm not opposed to guns. I, personally, don't own one. But a 9 year old girl shooting a gun, well, it's, I agree, there's something wrong....
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Originally Posted by trish
I've done that plenty of times in my lectures
I suppose there's some hope for America
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...his-porch.html
Yeah. Don't you just hate when that happens?Quote:
Originally Posted by martin48
What are they thinking in Detroit?! They should've bought that dude a box of ammunition to replace the shell he wasted on killing that girl. This is America after all. Get with the program people. I can't wait 'til I can buy some ten thousand dollar prison paintings signed by Theodore Wafer on eBay.Quote:
Originally Posted by martin48
The irony of the title of this thread always gets me. I wonder if this site is still going in 20 or 30 years time if it'll still be here. Record to a dashed hope from way back when....
Two thousand years in the future, American cyber-archeologists will dig up this thread, the title will strike fear in the populace and there will be a rush on gun stores. The price of radioactive bullets will skyrocket and it will be impossible to produce blasters fast enough to satisfy the spike in demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
That reminds me. I got to get to the gun store today and pick up a few AK-47s before the New Improved Cold War starts up again.
Is it me or does I.S.I.S. sound like some made up pulp novel name they give to a terrorist corporation that James Bond ultimately has to un-do?
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Originally Posted by buttslinger
I remember Isis being a Saturday (or Sunday) morning T.V. show about a woman who has the power of the Goddess Isis...kinda like a female Capt. Marvel which was also on around then...
As messed up as this country is with guns, it's downright tranquil compared to the Middle East. Do they sell those Toyota pick-up trucks with machine guns already mounted in the back, or is that an option?
The USA came out of WWII smelling like a rose compared to the rest of the world. Maybe we don't have a healthy fear of guns because we haven't had a war on our turf since 1865. You forget how hard life can be.
In the USA you get to name not only YOUR poison, but the guy's next to you. If 51% of the country wants machine guns, then the other 49 has to live with it. I guess the theory is what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. You can't vote til your 21, that's why abortion is legal
voting age in USA is 18.
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Originally Posted by fred41
thanks for the edit, Fred.
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Originally Posted by trish
Tragedy for all involved. He should have called 911, kept the door shut, and stood ready with his firearm.
Lessons to be learned on both sides. If you drive under the influence of alcohol and drugs, crash your car, go to a strangers house in the wee hours of the morning, pound on the door to the point of damaging it (as testified in the court trial), you could be putting yourself in a bad situation. I have only seen two reverends mention this during discussions about this ordeal.
This is just outside of Detroit and B&E's happen all the time. People's guards are up especially at night. You do this at my house 911 is called and there's ammo waiting on the other side of the door.
The first quote was a response to classroom incident that took place in Idaho. Not a tragedy for all.
The lesson in the second incident is this asshole would shot Ms. McBride regardless of whether she was under the influence or not. Did Mr. Wafer ask himself, "What kind of burglar knocks loudly and yells for help?" No. He quakes in his bedroom slippers like some kind of ammosexual. He's the kind of asshole who keeps ammo waiting behind the door, opens the door and shoots blindly.
I actually had a drunk pound on my door at 1:30 in the morning a few years ago. It was a teenager who could barely stand up. I drove him to his house. Of course I made him hang his head out the car window the whole trip for fear he'd throw up.
Pound on my door at night and I fucking guarantee I won't shoot you.
New Years Eve 1970, it's blizzard conditions. Sometime after midnight a teen, drunk and disoriented, kicks in our front door. My dad who had a gun didn't shoot him. Rather, he calls the authorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by 95racer
See how easy that is?
Are b and e's perps usually females who are by themselves who knock on the door? Ridiculous. If I were really scared, I might not answer the door. Or I might ask questions and make someone stand outside while I call help for them. If I saw the only problem was that she was drunk I'd let her in. I don't have a gun to shoot anyone with. Seems like 95racer is a fucking horrible human being, but I hate to sound judgmental.
Edit: I notice Trish and I make some similar points. I only read what she and Timmartin had to say after I posted.
A football coach in Kansas is accosted by five or six irate parents after a game a few days ago. One of the mob lifted his shirt revealing a firearm. They proceeded to punch, kick and beat the coach until the coaches wife fired her gun into the air. The coach then scrambled to his car and retrieved his own gun. Of course ammosexuals are billing this as a case where a couple of good guys with guns saved a man from getting a beating. I just think people are lucky nobody got killed. This is incident is just an example of the fun activities you can look forward to as more and more people carry lethal weapons. I wondering how long before a referee is shot dead in the field.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/state...le2098586.html