Occupy Wall Street protest

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Originally Posted by Yvonne183

Ha ha, ha,, but the UK never had a black PM, so how can you think you guys are more understanding, you guys only elect white people and probably rich white people at that. We are more understanding than you lot when it comes to diversity. It was you guys who traveled all all over the world killing as many native peoples as you could for monetary gains and now you have the nerve to say you are more understanding, what a frekin joke you guys are. The only reason you gave up your colonies was cause the US forced you to do so after WWll. You'd still have colonies if it wasn't for pressure from the US.

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i think the UK could end up having a islamic system the way they are going every one knows that Europe is fucked

Russtafa... have you been to the UK? Have you talked to Muslims here? I live here and spent 18 months researching this very topic in depth talking to radical muslims and moderate muslims, to leading politicians and many others in the academic and intelligence communities. i can assure you that your theory holds no water whatsoever. Ot is the very purest nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Yvonne183

Ha ha, ha,, but the UK never had a black PM, so how can you think you guys are more understanding, you guys only elect white people and probably rich white people at that. We are more understanding than you lot when it comes to diversity. It was you guys who traveled all all over the world killing as many native peoples as you could for monetary gains and now you have the nerve to say you are more understanding, what a frekin joke you guys are. The only reason you gave up your colonies was cause the US forced you to do so after WWll. You'd still have colonies if it wasn't for pressure from the US.

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We actually have many elected members of ethnic minorities. The chairman of the ruling conservative party is an asian born female Muslim, Sayeeda Warsi The Labour opposition when in power had two male Muslims in the key Government jobs - neither from a wealthy background. And the first female black politician in the UK, Diane Abbott.

Yvonne, I do enjoy your usually intelligent and thoughtful contributions but please make an effort to find but more about history. Yes - our empire ended after WW2 - but not because of the US forced us to relinquish it (though they didn't support the UK< Israel and france over Suez) it was rather more to do with economic realities after WW2 when we were virtually bankrupt. I do not take pride in our empire - but i do think our retreat from it has a certain greater dignity that the post colonial struggles of - for instance, the french.
Yes certainly post-war history does offer us evidence of the US pushing for economic hegemony in a world where british power was disappearing.

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Originally Posted by Yvonne183

Ha ha, ha,, but the UK never had a black PM, so how can you think you guys are more understanding, you guys only elect white people and probably rich white people at that. We are more understanding than you lot when it comes to diversity. It was you guys who traveled all all over the world killing as many native peoples as you could for monetary gains and now you have the nerve to say you are more understanding, what a frekin joke you guys are. The only reason you gave up your colonies was cause the US forced you to do so after WWll. You'd still have colonies if it wasn't for pressure from the US.

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Yvonne, I think you got up on the wrong side of the bed. Given our own history in regards to our own natives and how we continue to treat our minorities, we've no business suggesting that someone else's country is more fouled up than we are.

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Originally Posted by BigDF

Yvonne, I think you got up on the wrong side of the bed. Given our own history in regards to our own natives and how we continue to treat our minorities, we've no business suggesting that someone else's country is more fouled up than we are.

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I agree totally with you, but the same can be said of the Brits, because of their horrid past they have no right to preach.

And Pros, maybe you got my post wrong, let me make it clearer. I meant that we in the US have elected a black person for president, which could not happen without white support. But the UK has never elected a black PRIME MINISTER. We are more diverse than people of the UK in that respect. You just elect rich white people for Prime minister.

I will have to do some research but I believe FDR made the Brits leave the colonies when he told the world or made a pact saying that countries had to leave occupied lands when the war ended. The brits thought this to mean the Germans should leave the lands they occupied but FDR(or Truman-?) made it to mean that the Brits where to also to leave the colonies.

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Originally Posted by robertlouis

Sorry about that silcc. You're quite right.

And according to one poster last night I ought to keep my liberal British butt out of your nation's affairs anyway. Can't have other people commenting on the US now, can we? Especially if we have the temerity to criticise people on the right. Heaven forfend!

Oh, and just for his edification (although I'm not that sure what sex trolls are :whistle: ) my avatar is a pic of me this time. Any chance of seeing one of you or will the NYPD not release it?

Hence the brief diversion into Canadian music. But it was fun while it lasted.

Over to you. :Bowdown:

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You didn't just comment on US affairs...you leveled serious, profound charges at an entire group of people who you prove you know absolutely nothing about, so don't give me that Alfred E. Newman routine. It's an addiction of yours...you feel compelled to comment on every single thread and sprinkle a little bullshit dust on us. I have my thoughts on why that is ...but we'll leave that for another time...and this time you waded into water and got in a little over your head . You're not a bad guy, just annoying as hell sometimes, and after seeing your avatar...I think it was Zappa who said....."Just shut up and play your guitar". :dancing:

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Originally Posted by Yvonne183

And Pros, maybe you got my post wrong, let me make it clearer. I meant that we in the US have elected a black person for president, which could not happen without white support. But the UK has never elected a black PRIME MINISTER. We are more diverse than people of the UK in that respect. You just elect rich white people for Prime minister.

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Rich white people, rich black people, what's the difference? Most people prioritize net worth over skin color these days. It's not like we elected Al Sharpton or even Colin Powell for that matter. Obama's not even Black. He's half-African, but not a decendent of a US slave.

~BB~

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Originally Posted by Yvonne183

I agree totally with you, but the same can be said of the Brits, because of their horrid past they have no right to preach.

And Pros, maybe you got my post wrong, let me make it clearer. I meant that we in the US have elected a black person for president, which could not happen without white support. But the UK has never elected a black PRIME MINISTER. We are more diverse than people of the UK in that respect. You just elect rich white people for Prime minister.

I will have to do some research but I believe FDR made the Brits leave the colonies when he told the world or made a pact saying that countries had to leave occupied lands when the war ended. The brits thought this to mean the Germans should leave the lands they occupied but FDR(or Truman-?) made it to mean that the Brits where to also to leave the colonies.

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The Atlantic Charter, signed by Churchill and FDR made the Brits give up their colonies. Churchill signed it thinking it meant the Germans would give up their occupied lands but FDR included British colonies to be free of their occupier. Churchill felt like he was duped by the US in that charter, so in a way the US forced the brits to give up their colonies with this charter.

still going on.. The longer we stay the harder to ignore

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Originally Posted by soul4real

still going on.. The longer we stay the harder to ignore

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Ya I know, the smell is overwhelming..