Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!

How many gun owners have had their own guns used on themselves?
How many gun owners have had their guns stolen and used in crimes?

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Originally Posted by Prospero

i hope and pray i dont stumble across the nutjob who uses the name KittiKaiti with her paranoid and illinformed grasp of both history and reality. "Patriotism is dead. Overtaken by fascism." She speaks the lingo of the radical survivalists - a mishmash of paranoia and political claptrap. Add to that noxious mix weaponry and you have yourself a real recipe for madness. You gonna go hide in the woods Kitty for the coming confrontation withe "the man." I withdraw the claim that she is the Timothy McVeigh.
I think Anders Breivik is nearer the mark. Kitty Kaiti Brevik.. sounds about right.

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So you're comparing a person who says she will use her guns to defend her home and family to a man who blew up a building and mass murdered children?

apparently one of the women who died in the shooting was also present at the Eaton Centre shooting that happened recently here in Toronto. What are the chances you'd be present for 2 major North American public shootings in the same month?

it's all very sad and I'll never understand how some people think doing things like this are ok :(

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

So you're comparing a person who says she will use her guns to defend her home and family to a man who blew up a building and mass murdered children?

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Well you've talked a bit more than just that haven't you? There was going to be dead bacon on the streets a few days ago and you've made points about taking on the government?

I am Lady Breivik since you are spouting the sort of asinine political gibberish that McVeigh and Breivik spouted ... drivelling on about your government being fascist. God help us. Bush, Reagan, Obama, Clinton, Ford, Kennedy, Johnson, Eisenhower, Truman, FDR... how many of those names do you feel it right to label fascist. Get real.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Clearly you don't know the facts or have read it.

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No I just lived there and dated Sylvia's friend at the time.

But the woman who died as "collateral damage" in the second incident would probably not have died if it had been a knifefight ... no stray bullets ....

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

The same fascism you Brits had dragged us into a war against in WWII. Next time you morons over there are faced with a battle against another rising fascist dictatorship, don't call us in to save your asses because we are the only country with guns.

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Don't worry Pearl, we wont, we'll ask the Germans...They'll show up on time! :hide-1:


But, seriously, I loathe the "Nanny State", and probably, unlike most Brits here, I'm in favour of gun ownership.
But, you're going out of your way to prove the point, civilians should not have access to assault weaponry.

I don't know how people can make a comparison between Switzerland and the USA with regard to the high rate of gun possession and low rate of crime, when if anything that exposes the social dislocation in the US which can result in people using guns to rob and steal, or to kill. The Swiss confederation was formed precisely in order to end the violent conflicts that had made peace impossible; similar to the US the Swiss have a deep mistrust of central power, and devolve a lot of decision making to the people -but perhaps it because of the loyalty the Swiss have for their country, its laws and its values which makes the kind of gun crime unthinkable.

But here is the clincher, and ironic in view of some of the interpretations of the 2nd Amendment -there is no full-time standing army, but young men are trained and retained as part of a national guard available to be called up for service between the ages of 21 and 32; they are issued with weapons and ammunition which they keep at home. You could say that Switzerland has an armed militia where the people keep and bear arms...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/1566715.stm

PS Prospero, Timothy McVeigh did not use firearms in Oklahoma.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Makes a change from a bunch of Yanks trying to tell the rest of the world how to live ... and failing time after time.

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I get the national pride thing, Olympics this week and all. But seriously, we could go a couple more centuries and still not reach the body count the British Empire racked up during it's colonial period.