Gwen Stefani is this generations Yoko Ono.....WTF...killed a great band...fuck no...killed two bands!
Well assuming you ignored her shit singing!
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Gwen Stefani is this generations Yoko Ono.....WTF...killed a great band...fuck no...killed two bands!
Well assuming you ignored her shit singing!
Which bands are you referring to? No Doubt is still together.Quote:
Originally Posted by SXFX
Dude, they broke up in 2011, and she tested negative recently. She doesn't have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngblood61
2 things to say about this. Nowhere close to a slam dunk in a civil trial, if it is specifically regarding giving an individual HIV. That's the big money case. There would need to be specific proof involved, and that is going to be incredibly hard to get. Lesser money comes with negligence claims that he was negligent in exposing a client to the potential of disease transmission. Try this. Prove to me right now, with evidence that you had protected sex with someone from 2013. Can you do it? did you keep the condom? Will the other person admit to it? Any photos to even show you were even in the same room with them during that time? See, it is incredibly hard to prove. Even the easier claims like infliction of emotional distress are going to be very hard to prove. Without a ton of evidence, it's he said, she said, and no attorney takes that to court on contingency, because a settlement isn't going to come your way. He's also got a lot of defenses.... not going to go into all of them, but most of the ladies brought their own level of risk to the matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
As for NDA's. There is no such thing as an ironclad NDA. Further, if one is used to cover up an illegal activity (prostitution, illicit drug use, etc.) is it invalid and is deemed to have never taken effect.
The beautiful thing about suing someone, there are all kinds of damages. She was in the adult film industry, so potential loss of future income, loss of actual income, expenses from testing, intentional infliction of emotional distress, etc. Heck, anyone she slept with after him could also sue, as they would be a victim of his negligent exposure. Moreover, if there was a significant other who followed him and might have considered marriage to Bree, but didn't because of this, there is a potential for "Lack of Consortium" (read as lack of sex due to the potential or actual medical condition, if someone did contract it from him) and they could sue, even if they hadn't been exposed. If Bree slept with a married porn star, and that porn star's wife can't sleep with him now because potentially he may have caught it. Lack of Consortium still applies. Even if it was temporary, like 2 years, there are potential damages, and claims that can come out of that like maybe marriage counseling costs, tests for her, etc. The potential damages are really varied and numerous, and chain of people they apply is huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
Attorney's fees. Those and the attorney expenses he will have to pay for possibly 50 plaintiffs, who will be hiring big time expensive (read $1500 to $3000 per hour attorneys) is potentially huge. Damages are easy to find, the potential damages depend on the relationship, and distance from Charlie, but they are plenty. Like I said above, proving some of them are going to be hard. If he claims they used a condom, she says they didn't, hard to prove unless there is video or something. Bree and Charlie being in a relationship, easy to prove, assumption that they slept together, easy to prove. Proving he told her he was HIV positive, really hard to do without something in writing, and even then, something like the NDA could be inadmissible if it was based on fraud, done for the purposes of criminal activity, etc. Based on that, I can think of at least 15 potential claims she could win on, maybe net somewhere around $5 mil in damages for past injury, and more for future maintenance. (HIV tests, doctors fees, etc.)
The term for a civil defendant with no money is "Judgment-Proof." You're right, most attorneys won't go after a defendant who is judgment-proof, unless they are on a crusade, or pre-paid by their client. If Charlie Sheen was suddenly broke, and living in a box in his dad's garage, if Bree really wanted to send a message, she could pay the attorney herself, and have any future income attached by the court. She'd own every residual check he would ever receive, and any salary he made on future projects. It is very rare, but it does happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamon
Even if he were broke and living in a box, he'd still be worth it for most attorneys, simply because, as you said, he has relatively significant future earning potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by JenniferParisHusband
Yeah, but if it were me as an attorney, I wouldn't take it. You're betting on him and his movies still being popular after all of this. Robert Blake was found innocent, and you never see his movies or TV shows anymore. No residuals, minimal sales of DVD's... The general rule of future potential is that it always equals 0. And if the DA's office prosecuted him criminally, they could trump any civil claims on this future income, and the money would go to a general victims fund for the state. It's a bad bet, but like I said, if she paid up front, at least you would have your hourly fees. But I wouldn't take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamon
Yes but even Blake was found civilly liable for $30 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by JenniferParisHusband
Hello...knowingly infecting someone with HIV is a crime and no NDA can override that...it wouldn't have any legal basis, it's worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeisfiction
It's like an assault, there needs to be a witness (i.e. the person assaulted) in order for a prosecutor to win a conviction, which means Charlies pays to keep the witness quiet, which means her lawyer gets paid.
Is anyone surprised that it turned out to be Charlie Sheen? He is the only Hollywood Actor that fit the profile.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sinister
Charlie Sheen is the only Hollyweird star whose private life is so public.
Don't be so sure he's the only one who parties with escorts, GG and TS, and isn't too keen on protection.
If it was 30 years ago the logical choice IMO would have been Jack Nicholson.
Charlie Sheen believes he got his HIV from a transsexual! Also, there was supposedly a sex tape of him and a transsexual!
Jack Nicholson having unprotected sex! Surely not, I'd have thought his first words in any session would be..."Here's Johnny"...:tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
http://pagesix.com/2015/11/18/soccer...ndom-free-sex/Quote:
Read Charlie Sheen's letter about having HIV
Charlie Sheen was having sex with scores of hookers just months before he found out he was HIV-positive — and he paid them not to use protection, Manhattan’s soccer-mom madam told The Post on Tuesday.
Anna Gristina, who pleaded guilty to running an Upper East Side brothel in 2012, said she supplied prostitutes to Sheen and his then-wife, Brooke Mueller, at their LA mansion in 2009 and 2010. Sheen said on Tuesday he learned he was HIV-positive in 2011.
“He could have given HIV to dozens of girls,” Gristina said, noting that her agency was only one of many Sheen used.
“The porn girls he liked would agree to go bareback [without protection] because he gave them an extra $5,000, $10,000. And some of them would agree because they were hoping they would get pregnant,’’ Gristina said. “He would give girls incentives not to use protection, and the girls would try to please him because they wanted to come back.’’
I wonder if he was ever with Noureen, from his TV show; one of my favorite girls:
http://i.imgur.com/0YNQb6O.jpg?1?2090
So why aren't folks curious about the person that Sheen contracted it from and how many others that person has infected?
Or hey - how about Sheen suing that person if the situation warrants?
Everyone acts if he just woke up one day and was HIV positive, because none of the people he slept with could ever have HIV. People dislike him so much they couldn't care less.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFanti
IMHO,
Folks should be more worried about the person that gave it to Sheen and possibly spreading it even more rather than slamming Sheen....
Oh and...excellent point!Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeisfiction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb9IzsqwACE
Does anyone think Mia had relations with Charie Sheen?
Try searching other threads where this topic has been debated over and over. I for one hope the mods close this as it's just more repetition.
By 'relationship' you mean he paid to have sex with her ? Quite possible. :fuckin:
she loves talking about everybody she was with.
its not a possibility. its 100 percent fact. anyone who says otherwise is lying.
Kiss and tell.
Shame on you mia Isabella.
There's a maddening obsession with anything Charlie SheenQuote:
Originally Posted by Lester316
I love Mia, but I wish she would stop talking about every celebrity she's slept with.
As long as money is there to be made and fame to be had, groupie behavior will continue for women who come into contact with celebrities.
Did you know that one out of every two and a half men is HIV positive? :hide-1:
Does anyone think charie Sheen may have spread HIV to his gg and tigirl friends through bareback them?
No no one believes that
all of the ones in porn have been tested many times since then. so it would have to be randoms that are only hookers.
Ever wonder how many "regular" people contracted it from the person that Sheen got it from?Quote:
Originally Posted by gugaxamot
What is 'regular' ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFanti
A lot less likely to wonder when I know nothing about that other person. You need a couple of facts to get the imagination going.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFanti
Non/not a celebrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
I tend to look at things from a big picture perspective. There are few posts related to how many people did Sheen affect & now in the news, one of his ex's is suing Sheen.
Sheen didn't wake up one day with HIV - It was transmitted to him. So assuming it wasn't through blood transfusion, why no talk about where Sheen got it from? Why no talk about Sheen having a potential lawsuit against the person that infected him?
And the person that infected Sheen didn't get it from thin air either....and thus, the cycle repeats itself...
Because if he doesn't say or doesn't know...there's no way to know where he got it from. Unless you know something the rest of us, including Sheen himself, don't...Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFanti
We know. Everybody who got hiv got it from someone else's infected bodily fluids. This person who infected Charlie (call Mr/Mrs X) may not have known they had it when they gave it to him. Since we don't know who the person was and don't know under what circumstances they were infected or infected other people, there's nothing to latch onto. I'm not sure what you're having trouble following.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFanti
You're really on to something there.......it's a massive conspiracy of silence being perpetuated by shadowy figures to hide the real truth: Charlie Sheen is just a puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFanti
I never insinuated/eluded to that I know anything outside of what's been reported in the media.Quote:
Originally Posted by fred41
What I'm saying is that there's a much bigger picture here than just Sheen himself...
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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream
All I'm saying is that there's a much bigger picture than Sheen himself. Anything else and you're reading too far into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan