Wont be long now! Yes, Trish, we are watching history AGAIN!
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Wont be long now! Yes, Trish, we are watching history AGAIN!
President Donald "Milo Minderbinder" Trump will make a deal with ISIS: They can have Iraq and Syria and rape and pillage all they want....in return they aren't allowed to Jihad in Israel, Europe, or America. Oh, and we have to commit a terrorist act on ourselves once a year.
I like that BS, you found a way to appease almost every type of voter with that foreign policy stance...even if folks only admit it to themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
Maybe you should run...
We're trying to have a reasonable debate about refugees and visas. This pic is part of the hysteria inserted into the discussion. It's coming from both the left and rightQuote:
Originally Posted by martin48
As ridiculous as that sounds, there actually are serious-minded people that are taking Trump seriously now.Quote:
Originally Posted by fred41
His ratings have remained solid from day one. Scary Shit.
He's sticking to his story that on 9/11 he witnessed THOUSANDS of Muslims in Jersey City cheer as they watched the towers fall. He's fucking lying. It never happened and someone needs to call him out on it. He shouldn't get a pass every time he makes shit up.
It was not meant as hysteria. It was a serious comment about the slippery slope that some politicians seem keen to start upon.
1933
Boycott of Jewish businesses.
Jewish civil servants, lawyers and teachers sacked.
Race Science lessons to teach that Jews are untermensch.
1935
'Jews not wanted here' signs put up at swimming pools etc.
Nuremberg laws - Jews could not be citizens. They were not allowed to vote or to marry a German.
1938
Jews could not be doctors.
Jews had to add the name Israel (men) or Sarah (women) to their name.
Jewish children forbidden to go to school.
Kristallnacht - attacks on Jewish homes, businesses and synagogues
Trump told Yahoo News that he would consider requiring Muslim-Americans to register with a government database, or mandating that they carry special identification cards that note their faith.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-911-attacks/
Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
It really did happen, I remember watching it on TV (and I have really good memory) They were celebrating in the streets and roof tops, chanting "Allah Acrobat!!!". ...sumthin along those lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
Reason we can't find video of this today is because of ancient aliens :)
You liberal always go crazy when you hear the word "database"Quote:
Originally Posted by martin48
And for the record trump never suggested a database, the NBC Reported did, (not that it isn't a bad idea)
Sum mosque's should be shut down.
This just in from Breitbart "News": Glenn Beck accuses Hillary of paying Trump to run in and ruin the GOP primaries. At least Beck got one thing right, Trump is fucking up the GOP like nobody can...except maybe Ben Carson...or Rand Paul...or Ted Cruz...or any of the other unqualified clown-car fuck-ups that are posing as GOP presidential candidates.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...n-white-house/
Mosques and Gun Shops are protected by The Constitution.Quote:
Sum mosque's should be shut down.
In England, "trump" is slang term for fart (emit wind from the anus). Says it all really
It will be interesting to see how our national media reacts as Trump gets closer to the highest office in the land. So far, he has recommended registration of Muslims and surveillance of mosques, has suggested that illegal immigrants are mostly rapists and drug runners, he's posted bogus statistics about crimes committed by African-Americans from a non-existent research organization, performed a hideous pantomime of a disabled person, and claimed Megyn Kelly had blood coming out of her ears and her whatever (her whatever probably being her vagina). He's bullet-proof with his supporters despite being a total narcissist who can always pretend to be a victim of the politically correct media.
I hope that he does not win the primary....even if he would lose to Hillary, he is whipping up ugly feelings, knows nothing about public policy, cares nothing about social welfare, and debases the discourse.
He gets more extreme. “But, I Don’t. Care.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35037701
Hang on, he's saying Police 'afraid for their lives' in 'radicalised' London
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35037007
Not true just like most of the shit this guy talks
I wonder if people who tell pollsters they back Trump will choose differently in an actual primary contest. Iowa and New Hamshire will be the first test where votes count. There just might be a Trump surprise to the downside
What is truly sad is that Trump's brand of fascism is cheered and applauded by nearly one third of the Republican party. WTF!
From today's Guardian
The thing that is hard to appreciate about Donald Trump before you personally enter a room with him – in this case, the hangar deck of a wartime aircraft carrier – is that his first weapon is humor. Long before he fires up his loyal supporters, before he hits them with outrageous comments that send shockwaves around the world, he makes them laugh.
He looks like the man he is: a real estate developer with dodgy hair. But don’t underestimate the guy – he has the intuition and timing of a standup comedian.
Holding his hands out wide like a preacher, the second finger of his right hand pointed to the heavens for added purpose, he reduces his audience within minutes to fits of laughter. It could be any comedy store on a Monday night, except you then realize that there’s something odd about what he’s inviting the crowd to find so funny.
Most standup comics mine gags out of their own weaknesses and inadequacies. Trump produces belly-laughs out of the vulnerabilities of others, in a relentless stream of mockery and disparagement.
One of the largest giggles of the night comes when he lays into the “mainstream media” – that’s us – encouraging the entire crowd to turn around to where we are standing at the back of the hall and boo at us. It’s not a comfortable feeling.
Then he name-checks one particular NBC reporter who he claims misrepresented him in a previous campaign stop. “She’s here tonight,” he says.
Boos and laughs, in equal measure.
“Little Katie. She’s back there. She’s back there.”
More boos and laughs.
“Third-rate reporter. Third-rate. Remember that.”
“I mean, Lindsey Graham, he’s at zero,” Trump says, inspiring a healthy laugh from the crowd. “He’s at zero. Zero! Let me ask you a question: I don’t get this Lindsey Graham. He’s literally at zero. He’s on television all the time and he doesn’t go up, his ideas are so bad.”
Next for the chopping block is Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida. “He’s on 3%! He says he’s upset with me because the tone, the tone of Donald Trump is not nice. We have people whose heads are being chopped off in the Middle East because they are Christian. And we talk about my tone.”
As that comment suggests, the technique is pretty simple. Earn the love of the assembled throng through laughter, then draw them into your world.
And what a world it is. The world of Donald Trump is a dangerous place where there are threats around every corner, where the country is going to the dogs at high speed, and where only one man has the strength to avoid disaster.
“Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!” he has the crowd baying by this point.
And they are not any old threats. They are the worst, most lurid, most bloody, most terrifying threats imaginable to any American. Should Donald Trump have the misfortune not to make it all the way to the White House, he could start a new career as director of Saw VIII.
Mexicans don’t just enter the country illegally, they rape and murder. Isis doesn’t just kill, they behead. Christians aren’t killed in the Middle East, they are “dumped in the ground in steel cages”.
The chaos that is the world outside the US is coming home, folks, brought into the country via the uncontrolled immigration of thousands of unknown Muslims who nobody dares to stop and question because of fears about political correctness and racial profiling. In the wake of Paris and San Bernardino, nobody is to be trusted.
“We had a situation in California very recently where somebody was making bombs. The mother saw. The mother didn’t think there was anything wrong. I watched her being interviewed and believe me, in my opinion, she was lying like crazy. ‘Oh, I didn’t know, I didn’t know ...’”
Donald Trump calls for complete ban on Muslims entering the US
So how did we get to this fearsome and fearful place? By now the crowd is much quieter, contemplative. There is energy in the room, lots of it, but it’s curled up like a tiger.
We got to this terrible place because people are stupid. Everybody is stupid who isn’t inside this aircraft carrier, right here, right this moment, listening to the one person who above all isn’t stupid.
“This is a stupid country in so many ways,” said the Republican frontrunner who is vying to become the successor to Ronald Reagan, with his city upon a hill. “Can you imagine what our great leaders of the past would be thinking?” he asked, taking the words right out of my mouth.
The country is stupid. Obama, of course, is more than stupid (“I don’t even know if he knows what the hell is going on”). Even the military generals are stupid. Instead of getting their heads around how to eviscerate Isis in Syria, they spend their time being interviewed by TV stations. Can you believe it? Television!
“Do you think General George Patton would be interviewed? He would be interviewed after total and complete victory. They shoot first and talk later.”
Which brings us seamlessly, and inevitably, to that place where Donald Trump really wants to draw us. The place of final realization where it all clicks together, it all makes sense in a senseless world.
Outside this room lurk beheadings and sharia law, a president who is clueless and weak generals blathering away on TV screens. Inside this room there is a solution that can Make America Great Again.
“We need someone who is strong. Someone with incredible intelligence. That’s it.”
What is that solution? Where is that strength and intelligence?
Donald Trump knows. Does America?
A good article, the strongest aspects being the description of Trump's rallies. I think it's maybe too simplistic to say that Donald Trump has the skills of a comedian. I understand the author is trying to give the devil his due, but good comedy is not a simple stream of insults. Only cruel people laugh at things simply because they are blunt or because others would hesitate to say them.
Trump prides himself on being honest, but bluntness is not honesty. In Trump's case, he lies, then when others uncover his obvious lies, he attacks them, and lies about what they said about him and on and on....these are the skills of a demagogue. I personally don't think it's outrageous to compare Trump to fascists (the Nazis, Hitler etc). Anyone who has read about fascism knows that before violence or civil rights violations you have counter-factual narratives and delusions.
And I understand there is a Godwin's Law argument against calling anyone a Nazi. The parallels become so thin that it appears one is only saying it for shock value. Afterall, Bush, Obama, Carson, Sanders have also been likened to Mein Fuhrer. I suppose it depends upon which parallels you like best, whether the comparison makes sense and is helpful in explaining someone's behavior....
Trump is doing his friend Hillary a favor by weakening the Republican Party and letting her glide to the Presidency. A Hillary Presidency is going to be really depressing.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tial_race.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by dreamon
As some of the present polling results show, there is some truth to this (again, though things can very much change)...it would probably be even worse if he ran as an Independent. Some of the present data indicates that even though both candidates have a large unfavorable rating...Trump's is worse...and Hillary Clinton should be able to beat him.
...although now that I read a bunch of polls on the net...that unfavorable rating jumps around a little bit also.
here's an interesting article about the unfavorable rating:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/593213...te-independent
I don’t know if I’d compare Trump to Hitler...yet; although Trump is indeed a demagogue. Nevertheless, I would compare the crowds that cheer and applaud the two men. One was a congregation of ignorant, hate-filled, mean-spirited, violence-threatening, racist, small-minded bigots who were too afraid to publicly vent their poisonous hearts before they were given permission to do by a third rate painter. The other is a congregation of ignorant, hate-filled, mean-spirited, violence-threatening, racist, small-minded bigots who are too afraid to publicly vent their poisonous hearts before they were given permission to do by a third rate celebrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
I would pontificate that there is a slight parallel between the States today and Germany in the 1920s, not only had Germany lost WWI, most Germans thought their own GOVERNMENT blew that war. And the working class German suffered the most when it took a wheelbarrow full of Marks to buy a loaf of bread. Blaming the Jews sounded pretty good.
Today's working class Republican sees Illegal Immigrants taking their jobs, and feels like Bush II blew Iraq and killing Osama BinLaden.
Not to mention wrecking the economy. They suffered most from Bush. Trump is talking directly to the frustration of the blue collar Republican. He and Sarah Palin are the first not to talk down to them.
Trump is all about his own BOTTOM LINE financially, and then the rest is gravy. The BOTTOM LINE in this deal was a Publicity stunt to make the Trump Name more marketable. He has NO real plan for being President. No team, no vice President, nothing in writing. He hasn't spent much money. The FOX News hammer and lunchpail crowd is his new Bitch and he's fucking the hell out of her. He's on an ego-trip and his fortune will grow because of it.
ENJOY,...Democrats..............
This is going to be an eight year party for us. On Tap.
VOTE IN 2016!!!!
REGISTER NOW!!!
Muhammad Ali Hits Back at Trump’s Anti-Muslim Comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieYZD_VLIn0
I'll take a "depressing" Clinton presidency over a dangerous Trump presidency.
Hell, I'd take almost anyone else other than Trump that's running now in either party...including some I generally dislike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
I think he is saying things which a lot of people think, but can't say as they don't want to be attacked like he is being now.
Saying stuff like he is doing is not good for their own business or political ambitions.
But honestly, Western countries have a serious problem with regards to immigration.
The U.S.'s influx of Mexicans is currently negative. If we accept ten thousand Syrian refugees as we agreed to do that's a small number compared to our current population of over three-hundred-million American citizens. 10000/300000000 is 1/30000. The problem is not that our economy can't absorb them, but that our minds and hearts are too small to accept them.
I think we should accept the Syrian refugees, but there are a lot of people who engage in all or nothing thinking on this issue. Trump wants to have a travel ban for all Muslims which is a reprehensible policy. There are some, Trump included, who want to accept no refugees which I think is unacceptable when you have hundreds of thousands fleeing certain death.
I personally think we should accept 10,000 but also have a vetting policy (I don't think anyone is recommending not having a vetting policy). To do so is not to treat all Muslims as terrorists, but to recognize that there are several terrorist groups operating in the theater of conflict in Syria and that unlike in traditional war the combatants do not have an incentive to identify themselves.
Many of the people living in Syria, even if not ISIS members, were engaged in a civil war. I do think the likelihood that a small number of the 10,000 we accept will be extremists is pretty high, and that some level of concern and vigilance is justified...but everyone should do their part to alleviate a humanitarian crisis, and 10,000 is less of a burden than most other countries have taken on. I suppose I'm concerned that there have been some on the left who have said that any level of concern about how carefully we vet the refugees shows anti-Muslim bias; what is going on on the ground in Syria and has been for the last four plus years is sufficient in my view to justify caution even without probing underlying causes.
I think they're going to be real careful on this anyway...because at this point, the administration knows that if they make any mistake and it winds up in the news, there will be hell to pay....Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
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Classic. Just classic
That's from a parody account - https://twitter.com/mcdonaldjtrump/s...98884998590464
some of the comments on there are pretty funny.
I like Trump's first tv advert - is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWc-vzdXCyw
I've just done "my bit" by signing the petition to ban this maniac from visiting the UK, now at 572,992. Just wish I could do the same with David Cameron!
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...g-hate-mp-says
Debated in Parliament - well, sort of
If Donald Trump gets elected, there'll be hell toupée.
Palin Endorsement Widens Trump's Lead Among Idiots
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borow...d-among-idiots
(Of course Borowitz is a satirist: but these days, when it concerns the GOP, it's difficult to distinguish reality from comedy).