I have a question for all you Boys....

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Oh but then i dont agree with them,
But taking it up the ass is pretty gay lol
We are no homophobes, the ones that are in denial about it are

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Ugh listen sweetie.......
Your in denial.
I am not a homophobe why would I post on this board if I was?
You girls kill me projecting all your bullshit on these guys.
If you don't like the way the guys you meet or clients behave stop dealing with them.
The world does not change for one person.
Move on let it alone.
I do like transexuals but I am very uncomfortable with the thought of have sexual intercourse with one.
That's why I haven't.
I am not in denial about anything.
You and other girls are completely in denial about a lot of shit.
Yes if a guy wants to have sex with you and you have a dick chances are he is going to want to suck it.
Don't be shocked.
These guys are actually more normal than some of you girls are.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Like you would know from experience right...???

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Your a hypocrite.
You use your dick on guys to make money but want to be a role in your personal life.
A real true transexuals would not be fucking guys at all.
Be a 100 percent bottom all the time like a real woman.
Stop lecturing guys who are financing your lifestyle about their sexual habits.

I gotta say....I'm in agreement with Solitary on this ....to a point. Most of the dudes on here are actually pretty soft towards the ladies. I see much harsher comments on the street every day. Sure there's a few internet tough guys, but for the most part the gurls are treated pretty fairly. There's a difference between ignorance, and harsh, hurtful treatment. But you also reap what you sow....and have created a chicken and the egg scenario. You enjoy being noticed, watched, adored, admired ( who doesn't ?) But at some unknown, undefined point, with some ladies ( certainly not all) ...we hear how we're objectifying you all. That's what drives the dudes to distraction. I think I know where that mythical line is, but I can completely understand how some don't.

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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother

Your a hypocrite.
You use your dick on guys to make money but want to be a role in your personal life.
A real true transexuals would not be fucking guys at all.
Be a 100 percent bottom all the time like a real woman.
Stop lecturing guys who are financing your lifestyle about their sexual habits.

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Okay, hi there, first, i am not a hypocrite,
Secondly, i am not into escort, never have been,
Thirdly, i never ever top, would not even know how to,
I truely and honestly dont understand other girls are capable of doing so,
But i wont go so far to say they are not a ts...

Solitary brother - I think you are picking on the wrong girl.

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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother

Yes if a guy wants to have sex with you and you have a dick chances are he is going to want to suck it.
Don't be shocked.
These guys are actually more normal than some of you girls are.

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yes they are so normal and straight and no ts should project their ideas on their straight life when the moment they see a ts, their behind opens up and they secretly wisper, please fuck me baby.
Us girls should never project any foolish idea, like them being gay, on thosr men.
Lol.
Btw i dont mind guys that want to give head in the end, but those obsessing over it are a no go.
Coz im more normal then most guys on the board ;)

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Originally Posted by Prospero

Solitary brother - I think you are picking on the wrong girl.

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Yeah i guess...

Solitary man...

What i would like to know, you are on this forum, you like ts,
But dating a ts is or seems uncomfortable to you,
out of interest, i would really like to know what is holding you back...apart from not wanting to pay for sex perhaps, or that its hard to find a girl, are there other reasons?

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Yeah i guess...

Solitary man...

What i would like to know, you are on this forum, you like ts,
But dating a ts is or seems uncomfortable to you,
out of interest, i would really like to know what is holding you back...apart from not wanting to pay for sex perhaps, or that its hard to find a girl, are there other reasons?

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Solitary Sister, as Chefmike has called him for years, has gender issues himself. The Sister wants to go bitch, and if there is any doubt, read some of his vintage posts as Geekmeat, when he was practically the neo-Rupaul. The Sister isn't fulltime with that identity though, and while you might think he's often wearing heels when posting here, it's clear he also struggles with the tough-guy, heavy bag-hitting, Rap-music loving gay-hater within.

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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother

Ugh listen sweetie.......

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Normal guys don't insincerely refer to grown women as "sweetie", but petulant man-bitches do... he is Solitary Sister.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

I truely and honestly dont understand other girls are capable of doing so

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Okay...have you asked any girls why they enjoy topping? I'm pretty sure at least some of them can explain it clearly. Maybe I'm confused, but it doesn't seem all that complex to me. Just because it's not your preference doesn't mean it's senseless. Just because people want to add all this "passive=feminine/submissive, active=masculine/dominant" baggage to the act of fucking doesn't make it objectively correct...because clearly, many people just don't see it that way.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Btw i dont mind guys that want to give head in the end, but those obsessing over it are a no go.

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Define "obsessing."

Most guys are going to want to handle and pleasure all the body parts of a girl they're attracted to. For t-girls that means they'll want to play with your dick--because in their minds, why bother with a girl with a dick if you're just going to ignore it?. How many straight guys just want to stick their dick in a girl's pussy and do absolutely nothing else to it....every single time? If they have even the slightest interest in treating a girl like more than a disposable fuck-hole (yes, I know there are many guys like this, but most people judge this to be quite selfish), they'll at least make a token effort to fondle her or go down on her. And if they've tried anal penetration before and found out they liked it, they'll want to get fucked.

Because to me, in general what you call obsessing is no different than normal straight guys and their fixation on regular female body parts. I mean, guys compare and contrast pussy geography and breast geography all the time. Everything from the nipples to the softness to the breast shape to the thickness of the pussy lips to the pubic hair to the tightness of the hole to how wet it gets. That's just how men are.

In other words, the quality of discussion on say, Adult DVD Talk with respect to girls' physical features...really isn't too different from what goes on here.

Finally...from the OP:

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.. but the majority lived as gay men before they where tranies

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Even if I accepted this as true (I really don't know if it is, but it doesn't match my own direct experience), so fucking what? Is where you start just as important as where you finish, or something?

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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother

Every guy on here knoWs this.
A lot of guys that deal with trannies want to suck and get fucked.
Deal with it or get the operation and stop whining.
IF you were a real bottom and a real woman you would NOT fuck guys at all even while escorting.

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now you all know that 99.999999999999999999% of TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms lol

ok lets make it 98%

:dancing:

My experience: in my life I have had sex with gg women and t-girls, but only sex worker in this case, have been top and bottom with both, also a gg can be top I think, I have not never had sex with a man, meant like masculine, hairy, muscled, with the squared jaw ecc.ecc because simply i don't like, it does not make me horny. I do not think to be gay, perhaps bi, but not exactly, some time the sex with t-girls has been only top because her dick did not work, other times she had an erection only if I did not touch her dick in any way, other times she had a quick erection only kissing me and wanted to be sucked, licked and fuck me. This in order to say that the world is beautiful because it is miscellaneous. What I do not understand is why some t-girls looks like hate those which are their customers, if it is simply refuses their money and go on. What I like in t-girls is the fact that they are different from the gg women because they have a dick, when they removed it why to choose a t-girl and a not gg woman, a natural vagina is sure more better than a not natural one. I want to specify that I only speak about sex to payment, in a long term relationship it is different because you love a person not a body. Sorry for my english.

Veilero wrote: "What I do not understand is why some t-girls looks like hate those which are their customers..."

There is an eternal truth to this - for courtesans, hookers, whores, call them what you will have very often despised their customers - or the very fact that they pay. Mutual disrespect is the name of the game for many.

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Originally Posted by nicebrn

Okay...have you asked any girls why they enjoy topping? I'm pretty sure at least some of them can explain it clearly. Maybe I'm confused, but it doesn't seem all that complex to me. Just because it's not your preference doesn't mean it's senseless. Just because people want to add all this "passive=feminine/submissive, active=masculine/dominant" baggage to the act of fucking doesn't make it objectively correct...because clearly, many people just don't see it that way.Define "obsessing."

Most guys are going to want to handle and pleasure all the body parts of a girl they're attracted to. For t-girls that means they'll want to play with your dick--because in their minds, why bother with a girl with a dick if you're just going to ignore it?. How many straight guys just want to stick their dick in a girl's pussy and do absolutely nothing else to it....every single time? If they have even the slightest interest in treating a girl like more than a disposable fuck-hole (yes, I know there are many guys like this, but most people judge this to be quite selfish), they'll at least make a token effort to fondle her or go down on her. And if they've tried anal penetration before and found out they liked it, they'll want to get fucked.

Because to me, in general what you call obsessing is no different than normal straight guys and their fixation on regular female body parts. I mean, guys compare and contrast pussy geography and breast geography all the time. Everything from the nipples to the softness to the breast shape to the thickness of the pussy lips to the pubic hair to the tightness of the hole to how wet it gets. That's just how men are.

In other words, the quality of discussion on say, Adult DVD Talk with respect to girls' physical features...really isn't too different from what goes on here.

Finally...from the OP:Even if I accepted this as true (I really don't know if it is, but it doesn't match my own direct experience), so fucking what? Is where you start just as important as where you finish, or something?

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What it really comes down to is that most guys dont even like woman, let alone traditional ones, but its not convenient for them to admit it....

what was the question again?

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

What it really comes down to is that most guys dont even like woman, let alone traditional ones, but its not convenient for them to admit it....

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what.

The sorth of guy woman want excists only for a lucky few...
and on forum like this it is definetely only about what guys want...
And we should all just be open minded enough to accept it and discard our hearts desire coz its only preferences, and sexuality must be viewed apart from identity, all this stuff we just have to accept...so what about what woman want?
Well who cares, the men arent about to leave their "straight" lives anyway, and if you can just pay for sex why go through the trouble of dating a ts but noooo, that would ruin the fantasy and what is special about it for them.....
But we are all in the same boat, so they say...
We girls swim, sometimes drown, and our admires safely treat us like mermaids, and drop us back into the water the moment we start rocking your boat...

Too complicated right?

Birgitta - generalisations like that last remark about most men not liking women do you no credit. It's bullshit frankly.

@ Birgitta

sucks to be you.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

The sorth of guy woman want excists only for a lucky few...

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In my 48 years experience, the sort of guy wimmin want doesn't exit.
We occasionally pretend to be caring and shit but in the end, the truth will out!
Bitch, stop trying to change us and accept us for what we are...pigs in clothes!

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Originally Posted by Jericho

In my 48 years experience, the sort of guy wimmin want doesn't exit.
We occasionally pretend to be caring and shit but in the end, the truth will out!
Bitch, stop trying to change us and accept us for what we are...pigs in clothes!

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Bitch?
Yes a bunch of cowards most are, never willing to act alone, you are truely the weaker sex, no wonder it feels right for you to take it up your ass lol

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Originally Posted by phobun

Solitary Sister, as Chefmike has called him for years, has gender issues himself. The Sister wants to go bitch, and if there is any doubt, read some of his vintage posts as Geekmeat, when he was practically the neo-Rupaul. The Sister isn't fulltime with that identity though, and while you might think he's often wearing heels when posting here, it's clear he also struggles with the tough-guy, heavy bag-hitting, Rap-music loving gay-hater within.





Normal guys don't insincerely refer to grown women as "sweetie", but petulant man-bitches do... he is Solitary Sister.

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Your a big fan of mine.
I must have really wounded your pysche because your always riding my dick.
We can find out exactly what type of guy I am in real life and not on some message board.
This is for all of you haters.
Come and meet me and if I am this sissy like you say I am you have nothing to worry about.
So let's do it phobum or whatever you call yourself.

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Originally Posted by dderek123

@ Birgitta

sucks to be you.

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Well im not the one leading a dull and shallow straight life coz im not man enough to admit i am a ts....you will be suprised at the amount of honesty an freedom i am able to live my life, without holding back or ever having to lie about myself...yeah sucks to be me...

You mean you two aren't one and the same?

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

yes they are so normal and straight and no ts should project their ideas on their straight life when the moment they see a ts, their behind opens up and they secretly wisper, please fuck me baby.
Us girls should never project any foolish idea, like them being gay, on thosr men.
Lol.
Btw i dont mind guys that want to give head in the end, but those obsessing over it are a no go.
Coz im more normal then most guys on the board ;)

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If you don't like what some guy is telling you or asking you to do move on!
I don't know what else to tell you girls.
I think it is possible to find a guy that doesn't want to bend over and get fucked but if it isn't just move on.
It is true a lot of guys want to experiment when they get with a tranny.
These guys would NEVER ask a genetic female to fuck them.

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Originally Posted by Jericho

In my 48 years experience, the sort of guy wimmin want doesn't exit.
We occasionally pretend to be caring and shit but in the end, the truth will out!
Bitch, stop trying to change us and accept us for what we are...pigs in clothes!

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No wonder woman date bad guys, if anything, at least its good sex

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Well who cares, the men arent about to leave their "straight" lives anyway, and if you can just pay for sex why go through the trouble of dating a ts but noooo, that would ruin the fantasy and what is special about it for them.....
But we are all in the same boat, so they say...
We girls swim, sometimes drown, and our admires safely treat us like mermaids, and drop us back into the water the moment we start rocking your boat...

Too complicated right?

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Right, it is.

You know, my major disagreement here is (a) you're painting with too broad a brush and (b) generalizing from too small a pool. There are men that don't fit into any of those categories.

Some of them even post here.

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Originally Posted by Jericho

We occasionally pretend to be caring and shit but in the end, the truth will out!

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Damn...I hope I don't get that cynical twenty years from now. ;)

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Originally Posted by nicebrn

Right, it is.

You know, my major disagreement here is (a) you're painting with too broad a brush and (b) generalizing from too small a pool. There are men that don't fit into any of those categories.

Some of them even post here.Damn...I hope I don't get that cynical twenty years from now. ;)

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So then tell me why i should have respect for a guy like you and be understanding other then that you are a human being and that really does not amount to much these days...

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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother

If you don't like what some guy is telling you or asking you to do move on!
I don't know what else to tell you girls.
I think it is possible to find a guy that doesn't want to bend over and get fucked but if it isn't just move on.
It is true a lot of guys want to experiment when they get with a tranny.
These guys would NEVER ask a genetic female to fuck them.

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This is exactly what i mean, but they want us to believe they ask their wifes to use a strap on, they know woman dont like that kind of stuff, but think we are so naive that we will buy into their story about sexual prefs and being open minded looool

Im not around here looking for relationship material lol
I am here coz im a ts, which means im interested in the ways guys view and treat us

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

So then tell me why i should have respect for a guy like you and be understanding other then that you are a human being and that really does not amount to much these days...

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You don't "have" to have any respect for me. After all, I haven't done anything for you, nor do you know me or my history firsthand. Though if you go thru my posting history, you'll get enough info to have an informed opinion about how I've conducted my recent relationships, since I've been quite candid about such things on this site.

However, as I said up-thread, you should assume I'm not trying to bullshit you. As a rule I try to grant you the same courtesy. Since I have no reason to believe you're trying to deliberately mislead or insult me, I have no reason to disrespect you. I'm just trying to explain why your thinking seems problematic from my perspective. (Not that my opinions are all rationally constructed, though I certainly like to believe that at least the most important ones are. :D)

I mean, based on what I've said in this thread, how exactly is "a guy like me" described? So far, the only facts I've revealed about myself in this thread are that I like versatile girls, I've gotten a number of self-reported opinions on whether said girls consider themselves less feminine, and that I get irritated when people try to assert that sexual activities and preferences should be judged against some sort of objective standard. That's a rather skimpy profile, hm?

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Originally Posted by nicebrn

.Damn...I hope I don't get that cynical twenty years from now. ;)

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For your sake i hope you have the guts to date a girl you truely love and like to be with, and keep her be treating her right, instead of hanging round a porn forum like a dirty old men that feels he has to explain us he in nothing more then a pig in clothes...

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

For your sake i hope you have the guts to date a girl you truely love and like to be with, and keep her be treating her right, instead of hanging round a porn forum like a dirty old men that feels he has to explain us he in nothing more then a pig in clothes...

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So far, after 14 months my girlfriend is still rather satisfied with how we're going, thanks. With luck and a little willpower, that will continue.

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Originally Posted by nicebrn

So far, after 14 months my girlfriend is still rather satisfied with how we're going, thanks. With luck and a little willpower, that will continue.

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Just donttell her your true desires and you will be allright

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Just donttell her your true desires and you will be allright

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heh heh heh heh.

She's fully aware of exactly what makes me tick.

Seriously, you should check out my older posts. You won't have to go more than 2 or 3 pages before you find enlightenment. (Hint: about a month ago, the first time I ever addressed you was in one of the threads that I'm speaking of)

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Originally Posted by nicebrn

heh heh heh heh.

She's fully aware of exactly what makes me tick.

Seriously, you should check out my older posts. You won't have to go more than 2 or 3 pages before you find enlightenment. (Hint: about a month ago, the first time I ever addressed you was in one of the threads that I'm speaking of)

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Okay fine. Still you come across as someone else entirely, im not going to look up your posts, not so interested

Still i wonder what makes my way of thinking problematic..

Im simply adressing general tgirl problems,
Like guys that wants us to be like males while at the same time hiding what they want from the rest of the world...

Dear Birgitta, I believe that your way to speak about the others t-girls is too much categorical, not all of them have the same desires and requirements, everyone has her way to feel herself woman, also the gg women think various between them and have various requirements and desires.

"Like guys that wants us to be like males while at the same time hiding what they want from the rest of the world... "

I think that a meeting with an escort must be light and pleasant, if many men do not want to make to know to the others that they appreciate the t-girls is because they would be calls gay or pervert, invert, etc. etc. and they would have to explain to friends and relatives their sexual tastes. It is not worth the pain for an hour of sex. It is different if you love a t-girl, in this case if the feelings are sincere, you also can fight for her and tell to the rest of the world that you love her.

so i got aquestion.

do the majority of escorts give cumshots and rim?

mostly a bottom guy here

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Originally Posted by dderek123

@ Birgitta

sucks to be you.

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So true. At first I was getting pissed at her but now I just feel pity.

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Originally Posted by dgs925

So true. At first I was getting pissed at her but now I just feel pity.

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if your trying to hurt my feelings, it cant be done through an internet forum, it takes a lot more, im not so easely hurt.

Im thick skinned lol,
You may feel pity for mr coz i dare to be honest,
But there is no need...lol