is it true that most tgirls want to remove their junk at some point?

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

I don't think it works that way.after long term use sterility is a permanent side effect.

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So you're positive that it's permanent?

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Originally Posted by irradiatedd

yeah well the difference is that with GGs (or even gay men) most of them dont want to alter the very thing that makes men attracted to them. with TSs on the other hand...

i dunno, seems like a joke to me

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Didn't we cover this already lol.there are reasons why we want to alter our bodies..mainly cause we don't want to be men.can't get any simpler than that.class dismissed lol

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Originally Posted by Protoman2050@gmail.com

I'm an MTF transsexual, and I plan on keeping my penis as a) the inversion surgery is really, really painful, with a lot of post-op maintenance, b) really, really expensive, with a LOT to go wrong, c) I like peeing standing, d) nobody cares what's between your legs, and most importantly e) I don't need a pussy to be a girl.

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You can pee sitting down, heck we do it when we do the number 2. Standing up peeing is not something to be proud of, piss splashing everywhere like a beast approaching the porcelain.

I definitely don't if a TGirl is fine and keeps her cock, I am happily and willing to stimulate it and make it cum. I love to watch cum skeet out of a TGirls cock. I love it with a passion

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Originally Posted by ARMANIXXX

So you're positive that it's permanent?

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Mia Fever is just one example of a TS who had been on hormones for many years and was still able to impregnate a female.

Also, some male bodybuilders, especially professionals, take huge doses of hormones for years at a time without cycling. Usually, they are sterile while on, but after going off, many are able to father children.

@quiet reflections

is that right? i dont think that makes sense. there is quite a difference between being attracted to a ts and being attracted to a man.

of course i can only speak only for myself. for the majority of my life i've been attracted to women with pussies. i still am as a matter of fact. but then at some point i came across some animated futa porn which piqued my interest. you see i get very turned on when i see aroused women. there is nothing that drives me more crazy than putting my hand in between a woman's legs and find her already dripping.

with visual stimuli like porn though, there is no way to tell if a woman's truly aroused. but with women who have dicks, not only is the proof of their arousal quite evident, but i can relate closely to what that arousal feels like since i have a dick of my own, whereas i have no clue what it feels like to have a turned on vagina

i've never had any confusion regarding the fact that i am attracted to woman. i love everything about them; their breasts, their butts, their lips, the softness of their skin when you touch it. if i had any attraction toward men i would not be in denial about. despite having been raised in a bigoted culture i see nothing wrong with being gay, and i would readily admit it if i was one.

as a matter of fact, if anyone in my country knew that i like women with dicks they would think i was gay anyway, and i'd be treated like any other "fag" who likes men. so you see, if i were attracted to men it would not make sense to deny it to myself

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Originally Posted by Donkey

Mia Fever is just one example of a TS who had been on hormones for many years and was still able to impregnate a female.

Also, some male bodybuilders, especially professionals, take huge doses of hormones for years at a time without cycling. Usually, they are sterile while on, but after going off, many are able to father children.

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So you personally know her hormone regime? What are her doses and how often does she take them? At what age did she start taking them? All those are factors that has to be taken into consideration.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

Didn't we cover this already lol.there are reasons why we want to alter our bodies..mainly cause we don't want to be men.can't get any simpler than that.class dismissed lol

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i understand perfectly that you have valid reasons for wanting the things that you do, and actually that is where the joke part comes in. some sadistic deity puts a person in the wrong body, forcing them to transform themselves, while at the same time he makes a whole lot of other people attracted to the very thing that is causing problems for said person

that doesnt seem like a joke to you?

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Originally Posted by LibertyHarkness

some ts are happy with being pre op .. i know many TS that will happily stay preop ..equally i know many that will go post op once the time suits,

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I'd probably go post-op if...not sure. I was dead-set against SRS pre-HRT, but now's more like 4:1 odds against me getting penile inversion at some point in the future, after I get whatever cosmetic surgeries I need and want.

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Originally Posted by irradiatedd

tvkim are you taking hormones? if so, how long have you been on them?

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Seriously?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Seriously?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

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What.....

Why can't he ask?
Let him find out.
lol

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Originally Posted by irradiatedd

i understand perfectly that you have valid reasons for wanting the things that you do, and actually that is where the joke part comes in. some sadistic deity puts a person in the wrong body, forcing them to transform themselves, while at the same time he makes a whole lot of other people attracted to the very thing that is causing problems for said person

that doesnt seem like a joke to you?

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I get it, it's funny in a morbid way. My penis...it's...there I guess, don't really care one way or the other, although would like it to remain un-injured, so I can either have a *somewhat* functioning penis, or have SRS.

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Originally Posted by irradiatedd

@quiet reflections

is that right? i dont think that makes sense. there is quite a difference between being attracted to a ts and being attracted to a man.

of course i can only speak only for myself. for the majority of my life i've been attracted to women with pussies. i still am as a matter of fact. but then at some point i came across some animated futa porn which piqued my interest. you see i get very turned on when i see aroused women. there is nothing that drives me more crazy than putting my hand in between a woman's legs and find her already dripping.

with visual stimuli like porn though, there is no way to tell if a woman's truly aroused. but with women who have dicks, not only is the proof of their arousal quite evident, but i can relate closely to what that arousal feels like since i have a dick of my own, whereas i have no clue what it feels like to have a turned on vagina

i've never had any confusion regarding the fact that i am attracted to woman. i love everything about them; their breasts, their butts, their lips, the softness of their skin when you touch it. if i had any attraction toward men i would not be in denial about. despite having been raised in a bigoted culture i see nothing wrong with being gay, and i would readily admit it if i was one.

as a matter of fact, if anyone in my country knew that i like women with dicks they would think i was gay anyway, and i'd be treated like any other "fag" who likes men. so you see, if i were attracted to men it would not make sense to deny it to myself

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No I don't see because people will tell themselves anything to make it through the day. Again not all men are like that but a lot are. You, myself, anyone reading this, it might not be the case but don't for a second fool yourself into thinking that every guy that likes TG's are just into them and GG's. Without knowing the numbers it is all just speculation but I would bet anything that more than half of men into TG's are also into men in some way. If you are here long enough you will notice how many of the bottom men here also go for men. Nobody is calling you gay, It is however a HUGE part of this community and a lot of the admirers of the girls are and their love of the penis is easier for them and the public at large to swallow(get it!) when it comes with a set of tits.

Lol actually the last guy i was talking to admitted that he was into feminine guys as well, on a night that i was taking him to a gay club.i also suspect he fooled around with a guy that night.
I need a vagina now! Hahaha

uuummm...no

fast enough?

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Seriously?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

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eh?

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Originally Posted by Brandi Boots

uuummm...no

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care to elaborate on that?

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

Lol actually the last guy i was talking to admitted that he was into feminine guys as well, on a night that i was taking him to a gay club.i also suspect he fooled around with a guy that night.
I need a vagina now! Hahaha

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A good man is hard to find, but a hard man is can be found without excessive effort.

(WHY WILL THIS THREAD NOT DIE, THE TITLE STILL ANNOYS ME)

It's the two major fucked up paradoxes for any man into TS.

The first one is that generally speaking many TS aren't initially attracted to or interested in men who are into them because they are TS. Many tgirlsl have the fantasy of being stealth, dating a regular dude and then telling him they're TS and hopefully he'll understand.

I think this attitude is slowly beginning to change, but it' still out there. Many TS look down on men into TS because IMO many tgirls look down upon themselves.

The 2nd paradox is that we men love TS women who ultimately want to change that part of themselves that make them unique.

I remember back in the day I used to mess with a GG who had an H cup. I was in heaven. Until she told me she was planning to get a breast reduction because of her back issues. I didn't like he just for her bewbies, but I just couldn't wrap my mind around her getting a reduction.

IRL all of this is so much more complicated than the porn fantasy.

i dont have a problem with a moderator changing the title if it bothers anyone

although is it really that annoying? is it the words 'remove' and 'junk' you have a problem with?

i have junk too, so it's not specifically a ts term, is it? why is that offensive?

no it isnt just the wording.. you appear to be a tool

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Originally Posted by cassieukts

no it isnt just the wording.. you appear to be a tool

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umm...ok

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Originally Posted by Quiet Reflections

No I don't see because people will tell themselves anything to make it through the day. Again not all men are like that but a lot are. You, myself, anyone reading this, it might not be the case but don't for a second fool yourself into thinking that every guy that likes TG's are just into them and GG's. Without knowing the numbers it is all just speculation but I would bet anything that more than half of men into TG's are also into men in some way. If you are here long enough you will notice how many of the bottom men here also go for men. Nobody is calling you gay, It is however a HUGE part of this community and a lot of the admirers of the girls are and their love of the penis is easier for them and the public at large to swallow(get it!) when it comes with a set of tits.

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It seems a lot of guys who find themselves attracted to transsexuals (whether on this site or not) often make themselves feel better by saying "I'm not gay because I don't like men.The thought of a masculine hairy guy turns me off (or makes me sick to my stomach)".....but you will note that they never say 'I also don't like the hairless, effeminate twinks in the gay circuit..and could be never be turned on by them'.
...the reality in porn and the escort circuit, as most people who have been here a while know is...a lot of the talent is shaved down guys wearing wigs...and sometimes it's more obvious than guys are willing to admit to themselves. Not everyone of course..but some...definitely more than a few.
Are they gay?
No they are not.
..but they aren't completely straight either...perhaps bisexual...with a specific taste.
..and then I'm sure a select few are "just" gay...and that is the only way they could travel that road I guess.

P.S....I almost forgot about the guys into TS because they also want to be TS.

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Originally Posted by fred41

P.S....I almost forgot about the guys into TS because they also want to be TS.

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That was me a few months ago.

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Originally Posted by fred41

It seems a lot of guys who find themselves attracted to transsexuals (whether on this site or not) often make themselves feel better by saying "I'm not gay because I don't like men.The thought of a masculine hairy guy turns me off (or makes me sick to my stomach)".....but you will note that they never say 'I also don't like the hairless, effeminate twinks in the gay circuit..and could be never be turned on by them'.
...the reality in porn and the escort circuit, as most people who have been here a while know is...a lot of the talent is shaved down guys wearing wigs...and sometimes it's more obvious than guys are willing to admit to themselves. Not everyone of course..but some...definitely more than a few.
Are they gay?
No they are not.
..but they aren't completely straight either...perhaps bisexual...with a specific taste.
..and then I'm sure a select few are "just" gay...and that is the only way they could travel that road I guess.

P.S....I almost forgot about the guys into TS because they also want to be TS.

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Sexuality is a continuum and we all fall somewhere along the continuum. I think your summary is well done. At some level I probably am bisexual but I define myself as straight. Why do I do that? Well, I think it better approximates my sexuality. Back when I was under 25 and hard like half the the day, I cant remember one instance that I was turned on by another man. I got hard for women hourly including inopportune times like gym class and once during a trust building exercise for an extracurricular in which a girl sat on my lap. To this day Ive never gotten hard or masturbated thinking about a man I knew in real life.

I am attracted to Anderson Brooks's pics. Would I want to harpoon him in real life? I really dont know. I would probably depend how he was dressed; my mood that day; and whether I had a drink or two ( which I do even for gg escorts).

A bisexual to me is someone who is strongly attracted to both sexes. Someone who would go to crowded beach and find several members of each sex attractive. Some who has at leasr fooled around with members of both sexes who were not transgendered. I dont know if that is reality for many bisexuals or not. But that is why I define myself as straight.

A dick with boobs looks out of place and its a fetish....

So SRS is the way to go ... Any guy that finds me through a fag venue better expect to pay or expect no to be taken seriously unless very rarely there's something about you that i like ....

No, SRS it's not a doorway to be more woman but to be and feel complete, comfortable and have freedom.... Fuck yeah....

Props for the gals that work and love their dick...


I think its funny to me how most consumers of TS want TS a certain way ...

BUT

Most TS want to live a normal life... includes men, sex.

Life is funny ...

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It seems a lot of guys who find themselves attracted to transsexuals (whether on this site or not) often make themselves feel better by saying "I'm not gay because I don't like men.The thought of a masculine hairy guy turns me off (or makes me sick to my stomach)".....but you will note that they never say 'I also don't like the hairless, effeminate twinks in the gay circuit..and could be never be turned on by them'.
...the reality in porn and the escort circuit, as most people who have been here a while know is...a lot of the talent is shaved down guys wearing wigs...and sometimes it's more obvious than guys are willing to admit to themselves. Not everyone of course..but some...definitely more than a few.
Are they gay?
No they are not.
..but they aren't completely straight either...perhaps bisexual...with a specific taste.
..and then I'm sure a select few are "just" gay...and that is the only way they could travel that road I guess.

P.S....I almost forgot about the guys into TS because they also want to be TS.

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I can't really get down with that.

I'm not interested in part time/CD/TV/ or effeminate boys.

I like women, many different types of women, and to me that includes TS women, but full time TS women.

I can't get down with men.
But you're right....alot of guys here don't care.

As a matter of fact, I remember running a poll, a few years ago, on that subject for personal info and enlightenment.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=31494

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Originally Posted by ARMANIXXX

I can't really get down with that.

I'm not interested in part time/CD/TV/ or effeminate boys.

I like women, many different types of women, and to me that includes TS women, but full time TS women.

I can't get down with men.
But you're right....alot of guys here don't care.

As a matter of fact, I remember running a poll, a few years ago, on that subject for personal info and enlightenment.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=31494

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WOW , thats pretty gay lol Your poll explains a lot what this gay mofos are into ... Some of them could be child molesters...

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Originally Posted by ARMANIXXX

I can't really get down with that.

I'm not interested in part time/CD/TV/ or effeminate boys.

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when you say "not interested"...do you mean for one night (maybe a couple of hours) of sex...or more than that...?
..also, if you don't mind saying,...how did you vote in the poll?

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Originally Posted by fred41

when you say "not interested"...do you mean for one night (maybe a couple of hours) of sex...or more than that...?
..also, if you don't mind saying,...how did you vote in the poll?

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lol

I don't know what "not interested" means to you, Fred, but where I'm from not interested means not interested.



And Of course I voted full time in the poll.

Amberyle.... you totally rock! :Bowdown:

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Originally Posted by ARMANIXXX

lol

I don't know what "not interested" means to you, Fred, but where I'm from not interested means not interested.



And Of course I voted full time in the poll.

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lol...I'll take you at your word.


(that means very early transition TS is out of the question for you too I take it?)

this bump is dedicated to cassieukts :kiss:

Why is there incessant need to label men gay/bi who want to be with a trans woman who hasn't gone through surgery?

Many girls don't go through surgery due to the risk involved.

Doesn't make her less of a woman.

I *shake my head* at the idea you are better/more female because you have a vagina.

I think the greatest benefit of "passability" is that instance of gratification where no one looks at you strange or questions the woman in you. Where you don't have to explain who you are inside or make someone understand.. The feeling of you are just "you" is probably one of the greatest feelings in anyone's transition..so many go on a beauty pageant spree or vanity..we get lost in it. Then forget the ones still in the beginning stages and forget they want to feel the same way we do. So instead of looking at similarities we focus on the dissimilarities of who is more passable and who is less. At the end of the day we all want to be accepted as the women we are, whether just starting or had srs. I know insecurity comes into play and it's the reason many girls cut one another down, but just take a moment to think we have similarities. :)

And when you get to that part in your transition of passability it gives you a small glimmer of what it would be like if you were born a female.

But this whole what you have downstairs makes you who you are is crazy to me.

Im happy with my junk btw my legs and like Kelly said doesnt make me more or less woman...Plenty real vaginas outthere why will i have one just for design?and i wont risk my health just for a different piece of meat ..anyway its made it from a junk so i will choose my junk insteaD of a fake vagina.You wanmt vagina go for a real one lol

here you go

SEE THE SURGERY FOR YOURSELF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1vKT4JEcDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWFHTBI6iY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKuLmcrIJAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjqlcLCiU2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKXT-mv9QHE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p26Bhaf7Kl0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVM6r0oL1tk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUpeEBL1zBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxlzPh2Twps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ZxlAK4zNw

transsexual dilation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ZxlAK4zNw

Gender Reassignment Surgery Explained Video FTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2UfVFCnbpA

srs/grs
http://www.drchristinemcginn.com/services/srs/

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

Why is there incessant need to label men gay/bi who want to be with a trans woman who hasn't gone through surgery?

Many girls don't go through surgery due to the risk involved.

Doesn't make her less of a woman.

I *shake my head* at the idea you are better/more female because you have a vagina.

I think the greatest benefit of "passability" is that instance of gratification where no one looks at you strange or questions the woman in you. Where you don't have to explain who you are inside or make someone understand.. The feeling of you are just "you" is probably one of the greatest feelings in anyone's transition..so many go on a beauty pageant spree or vanity..we get lost in it. Then forget the ones still in the beginning stages and forget they want to feel the same way we do. So instead of looking at similarities we focus on the dissimilarities of who is more passable and who is less. At the end of the day we all want to be accepted as the women we are, whether just starting or had srs. I know insecurity comes into play and it's the reason many girls cut one another down, but just take a moment to think we have similarities. :)

And when you get to that part in your transition of passability it gives you a small glimmer of what it would be like if you were born a female.

But this whole what you have downstairs makes you who you are is crazy to me.

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Great post Kelly.

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