Men on dating ts women

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

I really appreciate guys who are honest to say to me that they really want to meet and fuck me but they dont have money. Its good for me as long as i find them hot and yummy ill fuck them lol

But the guys who will tell they want date or make friends just to get a freebie sex and I dont feel they are serious for a date or friendship! Ewwww total waste!

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Fantastic post! Thanks brother!

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Originally Posted by tsadriana

Kelly honesty is the key, however, not everyone is going to be honest about their intentions when you first meet them and some men will just downright lie and tell you what you want to hear. So far, I have only had a small percentage of men be honest in admitting they only want NSA sex, the vast majority of men have lied to me and then to make it even more difficult you have the men who were interested in a LTR but have now deemed you easy and decided you are no longer LTR material.

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Agree i could relate to this so much

So much lie from guys saying they want date or friendship but the truth they just want free sex lol

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

This is exactly what I am talking about! I am so glad you shared this and came out respectfully!

I like when we all can have intellectual conversations on here and not bash one another!

I so can feel you on this and have seen this time and time again with my ts girlfriends. Which is why most of my girlfriends are female. Transsexuals to me are just to superficial and have so many inside hatred it's hard to be friends with them. I've only met a handful that are sane and cool. I wont mention names so it doesn't cast anyone out.

But I have always felt transsexuals are the major cause of a lot of their issues! As well as deaths..that may seem unfeeling of me...but it's the truth.

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Thanks Kelly, you are the bomb dear. lol. I don't know if you will recall this but I remember mentioning twice before that I take great satisfaction and hope from the relationship between you and your husband. I am happy for you both, I just want to see it happen more in our community.

The two main reasons why I use this forum are to (hopefully) have healthy discussions pertaining to our community and to post pictures of my photoshop work that I enjoy so much! (lol @ myself.) I don't consider this to be "just a porn forum" it is a discussion board with very few limits. It is what it should be in design, it is not nearly what it could be in the hands of many of the participants.

There are so many petty squabbles that go on every week on this forum about who is most attractive or who is less slutty among the gals. There is so much bickering among the men about "I only like the feminine part. I ONLY top, neeeevvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr bottom!!!"

Newsflash people: it doesn't fucking matter what part of any of this that you enjoy. It doesn't matter if your asshole is wider than the Grand Canyon or smaller or tighter than the tip of a needle. Nobody in their right mind, no one that is truly connected to themselves in a spiritual way believes you are a good or bad person or an ok or not ok person because you like super-fem trans chicks or if you like wigs on a football. The people that worry about that stuff condemned ALL of us a long time ago. There are is no partial credit among that crowd for your specific tastes.

Wake up people: stop the infighting here at this forum about these petty differences. There are people lurking these threads searching for answers and seeking acceptance for who they are. How you treat your own self and how you treat others for their preferences on here could be the difference between saving a life and making one more person believe they will never belong or be ok anywhere.

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Originally Posted by dabaldone

Fantastic post! Thanks brother!

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My pleasure always sis :jerkoff

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Originally Posted by dabaldone

Great post Kelly, thank you! I happen to be a trans-attracted man. I've been in a couple of reelationships (3yrs and 8yrs). I've heard the "Oh, you date trans-women. I want a man that hasn't or doesnt date trans-women". WTF! So you would rather be with a man who has no idea on what issues he may have nor what his family and friends would say. These same misguided fools then wonder why thoes guy's have issues and can't handle it. SMH!

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Exactly...sometimes guys that are past the fact are so much easier..

Lord knows I have had to baby and be patient with quite a few of my exes and my husband..was it worth it to me..yes..but would I of rather they had already known what they wanted and dealt with everything OF COURSE

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

This is something culturally very western, Allysa. Men here are stuck on those ways and forget life outside other countries, what do expect from a culture who's divorce rate is 50 percent...

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I see thanks for the info girl i think this is the reason why I always feel and notice that Western guys ive dated are more expecting to have sex on the first date. Asian men in Asia doesnt really expect sex on first date

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Being an escort does make one incapable of emotion, or a love life. So the totality of what your saying is false.

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i can see now the problem with you is more complicated than just miscommunication.

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Originally Posted by KelticForce1349

Thanks Kelly, you are the bomb dear. lol. I don't know if you will recall this but I remember mentioning twice before that I take great satisfaction and hope from the relationship between you and your husband. I am happy for you both, I just want to see it happen more in our community.

The two main reasons why I use this forum are to (hopefully) have healthy discussions pertaining to our community and to post pictures of my photoshop work that I enjoy so much! (lol @ myself.) I don't consider this to be "just a porn forum" it is a discussion board with very few limits. It is what it should be in design, it is not nearly what it could be in the hands of many of the participants.

There are so many petty squabbles that go on every week on this forum about who is most attractive or who is less slutty among the gals. There is so much bickering among the men about "I only like the feminine part. I ONLY top, neeeevvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr bottom!!!"

Newsflash people: it doesn't fucking matter what part of any of this that you enjoy. It doesn't matter if your asshole is wider than the Grand Canyon or smaller or tighter than the tip of a needle. Nobody in their right mind, no one that is truly connected to themselves in a spiritual way believes you are a good or bad person or an ok or not ok person because you like super-fem trans chicks or if you like wigs on a football. The people that worry about that stuff condemned ALL of us a long time ago. There are is no partial credit among that crowd for your specific tastes.

Wake up people: stop the infighting here at this forum about these petty differences. There are people lurking these threads searching for answers and seeking acceptance for who they are. How you treat your own self and how you treat others for their preferences on here could be the difference between saving a life and making one more person believe they will never belong or be ok anywhere.

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It's a reason I distanced myself from the board...

I used to love the group of girls and guys that were on here before even with our differences we still all got on and were able to still speak to each other as humans..

Johnny, Nicole, Emily, Ed, Mimi, Ashley etc etc etc

Now it's turned into a whose the hottest and whose the most passable and whose bitchier than who and whose got the biggest balls contest on here..

It's boring

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

I have always said that if a guy doesn't want to date a girl for no other reason than the fact that she is a ts than he is a chaser.
I don't care about a guys past, what I do care about is if he sees me as a person or as an experience/fantasy

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Even if your not a TS, technically you are an experience.

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

I see thanks for the info girl i think this is the reason why I always feel and notice that Western guys ive dated are more expecting to have sex on the first date. Asian men in Asia doesnt really expect sex on first date

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Asian men have more traditional values, and that's why marriage there is 80 percent successful! lol...

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Originally Posted by bluesoul

i can see now the problem with you is more complicated than just miscommunication.

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Sigh! Brick wall...

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

It's a reason I distanced myself from the board...

I used to love the group of girls and guys that were on here before even with our differences we still all got on and were able to still speak to each other as humans..

Johnny, Nicole, Emily, Ed, Mimi, Ashley etc etc etc

Now it's turned into a whose the hottest and whose the most passable and whose bitchier than who and whose got the biggest balls contest on here..

It's boring

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I certainly understand your frustrations. Take breaks as needed but please don't ever give up. I think this thread you created today will do a lot of good for many people. We each can make a difference in this world, it just usually takes a bit more energy to do the good work.

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Originally Posted by KelticForce1349

I certainly understand your frustrations. Take breaks as needed but please don't ever give up. I think this thread you created today will do a lot of good for many people. We each can make a difference in this world, it just usually takes a bit more energy to do the good work.

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I think if anyone takes anything from it will be good...

I just think people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

Most men may think a transsexual is all about the money...

When that may not be true..but that's perception..it's unfair..

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

It's a reason I distanced myself from the board...

I used to love the group of girls and guys that were on here before even with our differences we still all got on and were able to still speak to each other as humans..

Johnny, Nicole, Emily, Ed, Mimi, Ashley etc etc etc

Now it's turned into a whose the hottest and whose the most passable and whose bitchier than who and whose got the biggest balls contest on here..

It's boring

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I have been lurking on this board from around late 2006-2007 (If my mind serves me correct). HA has always had its waves of drama. It will be drama for a couple of months, then everyone is happy. After awhile drama again. Please stick around. Drama comes and goes, but in the end its not a bad place to hang out.

I think what some people forget is that for an escort, the type of men that see them, are the same they get emails from on dating sites, or out in the club. Which makes the dating game pretty damn shitty.

If the escort is experienced then its fairly easy to figure these dudes out that just want to suck some dick. So ofcourse the job is going to overshadows her personal life, which is the reason why the known ts spots are filled with pay4play girls.

The girls that aren't in the sex industry, get the same types over and over just like the escorts, so its no surprise why so many girls are jaded about the men who want to date(sex) them.

Ps: Treat us as the women that we are, and not the transsexuals we became.

Nothing on my end beyond the normal finding the right one deal.
The hardest issue a serious man would run into is if hes dated a few girls, didnt work out like it does every day for so many, but he's known as a ts dater. As dumb as it sounds to me, alot o fgirls wont date a guy whos open to actually dating (movies, dinner, the whole courtship deal) if they heard hes dated girls previously. Its no tlike th ebro code of "shes my ex so no" its mor elike "oh he dated her, and because shes trans i cant date him". I lil asinine imb but oh well.

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Originally Posted by blckhaze

Nothing on my end beyond the normal finding the right one deal.
The hardest issue a serious man would run into is if hes dated a few girls, didnt work out like it does every day for so many, but he's known as a ts dater. As dumb as it sounds to me, alot o fgirls wont date a guy whos open to actually dating (movies, dinner, the whole courtship deal) if they heard hes dated girls previously. Its no tlike th ebro code of "shes my ex so no" its mor elike "oh he dated her, and because shes trans i cant date him". I lil asinine imb but oh well.

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Omg you are still alive lol

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Originally Posted by blckhaze

Nothing on my end beyond the normal finding the right one deal.
The hardest issue a serious man would run into is if hes dated a few girls, didnt work out like it does every day for so many, but he's known as a ts dater. As dumb as it sounds to me, alot o fgirls wont date a guy whos open to actually dating (movies, dinner, the whole courtship deal) if they heard hes dated girls previously. Its no tlike th ebro code of "shes my ex so no" its mor elike "oh he dated her, and because shes trans i cant date him". I lil asinine imb but oh well.

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Very true Haze and what happens is the guys just eventually accept it. I can find a dozen gg's to date, but finding a ts in this milieu???? Very very hard.

Zee menzz,,, Zay are Zee Pigzzzz.

I never get to the sex part of a date, after ten minutes of talking with me the guy heads for the exit.

While I have had my share of losers I have had quite a few times guys who hang out with me for maybe weeks or months without having sex. Maybe it's where one looks for a man or where one hangs out might determine what kind of man they find.

Although I am not exactly involved in the sex industry, I did have to do things when I was young in order to survive, so for the most part I rarely met this elusive creature called the "tranny chaser". Maybe they were the guys who headed for the exits.

Edit, also Most guys don't find me attractive, that might be a factor I left out up above

from my experiences its difficult to find a man who can genuinely give his all to a ts . for the most part transexuals seem to be a mans "fantasy" or fetish and they cant seem to take is serious because it is still in there head that we have a penis in between our legs and gives them more of a guilty conscience to treat us like a real woman would get treated. that is takn us out to family events and what not. I personally love parading that i am a transexual and i am very proud of what i am and i know it will be much more difficult to find a man who will respect me for what i truly am without wanting to change me or make me be and lie to be a real woman because i am not, i have a cock and i love to use it. men just really need to grow balls and be who they are inside and truly love someone for who they are inside and if that means a transexual than prove it to us and not treat us like we just some fucking rag dolls who want to get laid all the time .

JLxx

I love hanging with you babe

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Originally Posted by ed_jaxon

I love hanging with you babe

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ditto!
:n)

JLxx

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Originally Posted by KelticForce1349

Uh...It should not be "wrong" that a man knows that he likes transsexuals or prefers transsexuals over genetic women or men as men. It is extremely important to understand that so many people fall somewhere between the rigid orientation markers of:

Gay 100% 90% 80% 70% 60% 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0%
0 % 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Straight

There are loads of guys that can't mentally do the math on their sexuality for years and years of their lives; look at the number of guys that come to this forum and ask " I like transsexuals, does that make me (100%) gay?

The answer? No. Liking or being attracted to transsexuals alone does not make you gay.

Our society often preaches these absolute ideas that don't hold up during intellectual dissection and rational discussion. It is mostly a very puritanical idea that people are born ( God created) 100% and ANYTHING else is the trickery of Satan or the wrath of God ( how ironic?) for not truly loving God in ones own heart. I don't want to go very deep into this particular part but the horrifying number of gay people that have killed themselves after exhausting every method to de-gay themselves says it all.

In closing on this subject it shouldn't be freaky, creepy, concerning, disturbing, gross, perverse etc for someone to like you Amber ( or you Evon) for being the transexual ladies that you are. The man or men that admit this to themselves and to you might actually be more deeply attuned to what they need most in a romantic partnership. This might actually be the first step towards a quality relationship from a man to you, this information should not be a deal-breaker.

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Dude what are you talking about?? I'm sorry but if a guy can't take me seriously because the only flaw he can find is that I was born male than to me he's a chaser.i'm good enough to fuck but not to love??
All that other stuff you mentioned had zero to do with my post.I actually prefer a man who knows he wants a ts and is man enough to own it.what I won't deal with is being someones secret fuck toy or less

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Originally Posted by XxXJaslynLee

from my experiences its difficult to find a man who can genuinely give his all to a ts . for the most part transexuals seem to be a mans "fantasy" or fetish and they cant seem to take is serious because it is still in there head that we have a penis in between our legs and gives them more of a guilty conscience to treat us like a real woman would get treated. that is takn us out to family events and what not. I personally love parading that i am a transexual and i am very proud of what i am and i know it will be much more difficult to find a man who will respect me for what i truly am without wanting to change me or make me be and lie to be a real woman because i am not, i have a cock and i love to use it. men just really need to grow balls and be who they are inside and truly love someone for who they are inside and if that means a transexual than prove it to us and not treat us like we just some fucking rag dolls who want to get laid all the time .

JLxx

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Difficult isn't impossible. i see a person not an object, it's kind of why I decided i wasn't going to do the escort thing anymore. it's fine for others, it's fine for escorts, it hurts no one but it does objectify and dehumanize and make it easier to not see a person in my experience. I think transwomen are real women before they begin any physical changes aren't they? No man can make you what you always were. I won't insult you by claiming an understanding of the challenges you must of faced but the feelings are familar. Wanting to change the tigers stripes is hardly a unique scenario. My ex wife spent 7 yrs trying to get me to pick up the socks on the floor adhd man never saw. I have no hang ups about the cock thing but do see it here. hell, i slept with guys what'"s the big deal? I hope you find someone who sees you for who you are not the make believe person in their head. for what it's worth though i had a crush a cis girl once and really had built her into some unreal person in my head and well, ended up crushed. Pretending people are something they aren't to try to find love is hardly uncommon

So glad people are seeing it my way... all the comments below from all the women, I agree 100 percent...

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Well I agree with her. If you want to date a TS woman then take her out as you would any woman and don't expect just because she's a TS it would lead to sex right away.

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Hmmm...Perhaps.

But then again sex on the first date is not a travesty if insinuated at the end of the night since it's not what you do but how you do it. If she feels the vibe then it's all good. But if she declines it's not the end of the world. Besides if I enjoyed my time with her than there will likely be a second date to come.

So if she's the type to try to charge me as if I'm some slob on payday based on what was just a little flirt then it's safe to say that this chick wasn't really all that interested in me anyway. And if money was all she wanted then she shouldn't have excepted the type of date that was offered.

And keep in mind I don't think the OP was speaking of just sex working opportunist and hornballs.

I'd like to think that there's a broader spectrum of men and women in the TS community who don't make up excuses for amoral behavior.

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

a lot of men think if she is gonna sleep with me on the first night then she must do this with everyone..

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Actually whats worse is a guy knowing for a fact that said Tranny has nailed a few guys on the first date only to turn around and give "him" a hard time. That tends to leave a lot guys scratching their heads at the end of the night.

But like I said it's not the end of the world if I like you, I'll stick around.

Another thing I'd like to put to rest is the term "freebie".

I personally look for a woman who has a mutual reaction to me. Thus if I find you sexually attractive and you feel the same and we both just happen to be felling a little amorous then lets go with it. The key is that both people want it.

But if your not feeling it then just say "NO" I'd have more respect for her saying that then giving me her prices.

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Originally Posted by Mayrah

Ps: Treat us as the women that we are, and not the transsexuals we became.

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from the other side of the same coin you can also say : Treat us as the men that we are , not the tranny chasers that some of s became , it's not all of us.

sometimes transexuals become too sensitive and develop an attitude of: "I don't want to join a club thst's willing to accept me as a member...."

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Originally Posted by Chase_Mcthirsty

Another thing I'd like to put to rest is the term "freebie".

I personally look for a woman who has a mutual reaction to me. Thus if I find you sexually attractive and you feel the same and we both just happen to be felling a little amorous then lets go with it. The key is that both people want it.

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unfortunately, that term (in reference to sex) is indicative of escort vocabulary- which is in conflict at some of the earlier statements about how they can put to rest their escorting persona and be regular civilians again.

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

Men, besides the obvious judgement and segregation that can come along with dating a transsexual women.

Is another reason it's hard to date trans-women because of the contempt many transsexual woman seem to have towards men?

I have never really understand the hate and how loosely the term "tranny chaser" is thrown about.

Then you got the transsexuals who want this prince charming sort of man that has never been with a transsexual and would never ever want to be with another transsexual besides her or be attracted to another transsexual. It's like get a GRIP on reality...

Then a man is called a 'tranny chaser' due to the fact he has slept around with so many girls. Well girls men do the same with women...and if they dated one tgirl he may want to date another tgirl...

Or how insensitive transsexuals are to the men who are interested in them. It's like don't you remember what it was like to come out to your friends and family, the male has to deal with something similar who dates you. If you just gave the guy a chance he may not be such a bad guy after all. I just find transsexuals seem to demonize men.

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Originally Posted by KelticForce1349

That whole fantasy you mentioned about the 100% straight guy that falls for the tranny is all only real in the minds of the angry, dramatic, self-hating (?) t-girls that make that shit up. If you thought the movie "Pretty Woman" was bullshit, this is the sequel gone full-retard times 1000. Many of the t-girls that I know seem to be starved for love, yet they seem ferociously determined to remain that way. Is it damaged people shooting themselves in the foot again and again for the glory of martyrdom?

Whatever the cause might be I find myself wrestling with both sadness/frustration that one door that is unexplored territory seems to be locked in front of me. On the other hand I cling to the hope that the door leading to the more familiar path with ultimately provide me with the satisfying loving relationship that I crave in my life. Only time will provide me with the answer I want, I just detest having my options being limited by others.

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Pretty much all of this.
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Personally, I'm tired of men refusing to be seen in public with me or refusing to treat me right. Or when guys string you along and then vanish, that gets old. MY views on men is mostly negative, I'm not an escort, but I feel like it just to take that power back :)

I am a 35 yr old guy.. I dont understand why someone would not take a "ts" Woman out in public.. Is the best feeling in the world to be and hold hands with someone who cares about me and I her. Guys who are ashamed to take someone out must have some really hidden issues within their selves.. thats my 2 cents worth

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Originally Posted by savannah

I am a 35 yr old guy.. I dont understand why someone would not take a "ts" Woman out in public.. Is the best feeling in the world to be and hold hands with someone who cares about me and I her. Guys who are ashamed to take someone out must have some really hidden issues within their selves.. thats my 2 cents worth

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pretty much it in the nutshell. Plus really, how manly is it to be scared of something so trivial??????

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Originally Posted by bluesoul

unfortunately, that term (in reference to sex) is indicative of escort vocabulary- which is in conflict at some of the earlier statements about how they can put to rest their escorting persona and be regular civilians again.

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If a guy wants to take advantage of us it is a freebee.... it is not worth our time and we rather charge it's a meaningless hookup, and it's getting old.

If a guy dates, or are in serious relationships with us, even it's free we get emotional satisfaction, sexual satisfaction, there is something gained so much more fulfilling to us than some fucking freebie who just want sot fuck and go. If this is the case and you want us to feel like shit, it's natural for us to want to gain something, in this case financial gain.

I don't care what people say, but to me this is totally fair.

Sex and freebies, hmmmm kinda makes a actual relationship feel like a buisness.

sensing a lot of misandry in here
and im not surprised you girls mainly find what you expect from men

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Originally Posted by lifeisfiction

Sex and freebies, hmmmm kinda makes a actual relationship feel like a buisness.

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No or you don't want to put work in meaningful relationship...

Fyi I dont date American men... Girl I suggest you date European(not from uk) men or asian Men. lol... jk.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Tranny chasers are men who fetish on women like us,

If a person calls me she male I would punch him in the face believe that

Tranny chasers will never take you as a woman seriously.

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One girls "tranny chaser" is another girls knight in shining armor.

So how do you classify Chaser's then get offended by unjust labels in the same breath?

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Originally Posted by Chase_Mcthirsty

One girls "tranny chaser" is another girls knight in shining armor.

So how do you classify Chaser's then get offended by unjust labels in the same breath?

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Please show a girl who wants to ever get caught up with a chaser? please do.

A girl to be with a chaser is just retarded... Why go trough all that, when you can be happier alone than with some guy who treats you like shit?

I have not treated anyone unjustly for me to be labeled a she male
A chaser on the other hand....

If your a proud chaser then good for you, But Not my cup of tea.

Chasers and ignorant tards label us she males... Never had I had a person with respect call me that man or woman.

The issue with chasers is that most trans women want to be treated and wanted as women, not as trans women. Why the hell would any want to be with someone who wants them for the part of them they're trying to fix / get past.