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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci
......or to put in more basic language, this thread has now vanished up its own arse and will hopefully be winding itself round the OP's windpipe shortly. :geek:
Great ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by GrimFusion
But
Your mom really loves my rock hard cock.
Glad to say i do for a change lolQuote:
Originally Posted by FreddieGomez
Top guys that are into tranny's are a treasure and my kind of guy, i dont want anything to do with the bottoms never lol.
And i still think they should find themselves some gay guys instead of bothering us girls with their malfunctional masculinuty lol
I agree with Freddie here:
Personally I think a T-girl who tops just looks wrong. A t-girl doing the fucking looks like a dude with long hair and tits to me!
No prob with girl on girl toy fun like this tho!
http://s4.postimage.org/qcn13sp1f/DSC06730_1.jpg
Pretty girls are meant to get screwed!
http://s3.postimage.org/q0rgy0dro/DSC07016.jpg
. . . or done with a huge dildo!!
Strange to find such a lack of understanding the variety of human sexuality as the anti-bottom posts - especially from Birgitta. Does it not occur to you that some men who are into both being topped and who like to top do not find gay men attractive at all, but are very aroused by the beauty of a girl who also has a cock. I fully understand that you, as an individual, have no desire whatsoever to become entangled or involved with such men - but perhaps as a transgendered woman in a world full of prejudice you could be a bit more understanding of difference and the vagaries of human nature? It is ignorance from the wider community that denies those women born into male bodies recognition of their true feminine identities, but also ignorance from this community that insists that men who like transexuals - or who like to bottom - are really just closet gay men.
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Originally Posted by Prospero
Dont start with me on prejudice, from childhood on i was treated like a freak by "straight" guys, bullied etc, and now i should suddenly be open minded that 99% of the men that like me expect me to be understanding that they want to wear my clothes and be fucked by me???? Talking about prejudice!!!!!! Looooool
Whatever happened to the world i thought was straight and normal. Turns out i am not the one that is strange after all.
And what is wrong with being called gay when you are male and take it up the ass? I have been called gay so many times in my life. And am actually proud of gay men, a lot of them know what life is about, instead of being "straight" and in the closet.
i am actually pretty tired and annoyed by self proclaimed straight men that think they help or support me when bothering me with fetishis their friends dont even know about and that have no relation whatsoever to my life and my transition.
I cant blame the girls that want to make some money with porn that satisfies their desires but it is all a fantasy world. A true tgirl with a feminine id does not want to fuck her bf ever. Every tgirl that has a female hormone balance is not made to penetrate without viagra and stuff like that. The amount of t in a normal female hormone balance that makes any true tgirl feel good is not enough to be able to be masculine in bed to begin with.
and besides i dont buy the fairytale, even some top guys like us coz they expect us to be like horny males in bed.
if you believed in the true feminine id of transwoman you would not be here
I'd like you to be a horny female in the bed , it's better when she wants you as much as you want her.
You are cool baby! And i always do otherwise i would not be with them lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockabilly
I may not sound like it but with the right guy i am actually terribly sweet lol
Birgitta - I have given my responses to your last post in bold below. The key to my position is respect for all ranges of difference.
Dont start with me on prejudice, from childhood on i was treated like a freak by "straight" guys, bullied etc, and now i should suddenly be open minded that 99% of the men that like me expect me to be understanding that they want to wear my clothes and be fucked by me???? Talking about prejudice!!!!!! Birgitta - so because YOU have faced prejudice it's okay to be prejudiced. that's odd logic.
Whatever happened to the world i thought was straight and normal. Turns out i am not the one that is strange after all. Agreed. I'm 100 per cent on your side here - as i suspect are many guys here.
And what is wrong with being called gay when you are male and take it up the ass? I have been called gay so many times in my life. And am actually proud of gay men, a lot of them know what life is about, instead of being "straight" and in the closet. Again i agree. Nothing wrog with being gay. But you seem to think people are either gay or straight. I know its more complicated. What about those who are interested in biological women but also interested in transgendered woman - both in an active and passive sense? Do you despise them for THEIR difference/ It appears so.
i am actually pretty tired and annoyed by self proclaimed straight men that think they help or support me when bothering me with fetishis their friends dont even know about and that have no relation whatsoever to my life and my transition. I do not bother you with my so called fetishes. How harsh you are in condemning those who are different from you when we are on your side. Once you would have been burned or persecuted for your own identity. Thank god that attitude is considerable gone - though not wholly gone. Plenty of "straight" soiety despies the transgendered. They are wrong. But so are you to be harsh to those who are different from ou.
I cant blame the girls that want to make some money with porn that satisfies their desires but it is all a fantasy world. A true tgirl with a feminine id does not want to fuck her bf ever. Every tgirl that has a female hormone balance is not made to penetrate without viagra and stuff like that. The amount of t in a normal female hormone balance that makes any true tgirl feel good is not enough to be able to be masculine in bed to begin with. Again I agree. But again I insist that all people deserve respect - (with obvious criminal exceptions) and not your harsh condemnation because they are different from you.
and besides i dont buy the fairytale, even some top guys like us coz they expect us to be like horny males in bed.I don't get this point? Yes some men don't understand that a truly transgendered woman wants to live and be treated as a woman. You'll get no suggestion from me at all that you should live or be treated any other way. And if you believed in the true feminine id of transwoman you would not be here. Again... you seem to miss what this site is about. It' about - largely - men who admire the beauty and sexuality of transgendered women as THEY conceive them to be in their own minds. Not the reality of a woman like you, but the desire to enjoy the hermaphrodite who can be bnoth a girl and a guy at the same time. Finally perhaps it is you who should not be here. This is - at the end of the day - primarily a site about pornography. Not a nice forum for genuinely nice girls like you to exchange their views on life. Seriously - there are other forums which are free of the porn content which you clearly find so utterly repellent.
I'm a gay man, but I hate seeing a TS, TG, TV shagging a hairy arsed man.
YUKK!
Total turn off I think
That's cool Woody... don't watch! Live and let live is my message bro!
Birgitta, prospero loves to be passive/bottom with a big dicked TV have a look in what I wrote for him on here :)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=55855
Btw Birgitta I'm a fan of yours, gorgeous! I love feminine bottom girls.
Badhusband - you are a liar. Yes I enjoy being passive and being active and i have posted many reviews on the reviews strand of both girls. I'm not trying to get to meet Birgitta - simply discussing open mindedness. Badbusband you are a liar and dishonest.
Sorry Propero, but it just spoils the whole illusion of femininity for me. Of course we all get turned on by different things, that what makes forums like this such funQuote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Of course we all get turned on by different things, that what makes forums like this such fun.... I agree with this 100 per cent.
:iagree: Live and let live seems a pretty fair way to go. Well said Prospero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
I would totally date you lol instead of the straight fairies loooooolQuote:
Originally Posted by woodywoodsac
Prospero, thanks for the reply, i will answer later, got to run
You'd think so, but there seems to be a helluva lot of Stop Having Fun Guys in the world. I don't mind so much that they don't like what I like, but it's profoundly irritating when they raise their preferences to some kind of moral judgment.Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
...whatever. I'll be perfectly happy with the (still very feminine) girls who enjoy topping. There's room enough for all of us in the world.
Absolutely. I prefer to top pretty well exclusively, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest that other people have other preferences. What a boring place the world would be if everyone was the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicebrn
I've tried soooo hard not to engage your 'hotter-than-thou' TV shenanigans, but:Quote:
Originally Posted by tvkim
http://www.shemalecherry.com/content/imgs/39/thumb.jpg
http://www.hungdevils.com/uploads/mo...1234985948.jpg
http://www.hungdevils.com/uploads/mo...1221025894.jpg
Men, right? And then there's you. Seriously. Who do you think you are?
http://www.amyabrahams.com/wp-conten...t-in-room1.jpg
~BB~
Yuck. To each their own, but I think the whole point of the OP is that nearly 100% of trans porn has at least SOME part of it where the girl tops the guys, and *shock* not everyone likes it. I really, really would prefer the option to find more porn where there is zero topping of the guys and zero guys sucking cock, but I guess that's what the fast-forward is for, right? ;)
grimfusion definitely takes it up the ass
battyboy
Lol I like em top n bottom, I like girls with strapons and hot trannies are hot girls with strapons attached.
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Originally Posted by Birgitta
Speaking truth to powerbottoms.
Would you fuck Kim?Quote:
Originally Posted by BellaBellucci
Like I said, I only fuck man ass for money. :geek:Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGuy
~BB~
the reason why theres porn TS girls topping guys because its the one that sells
99.9999999999999999999% of TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms lol :)
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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
Is there a racial difference... are some races or ethnicities more likely to be powerbottoms than others, and which ones?
What percent of the "99.9999999999999999999%" have their own gender issues and like to dress up when they bottom?
I think 99.99% is way way way way way off the mark !! lol ;;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
I have escorted successfully for years as a bottom....:fuckin:
The trouble with coming in near the tail end of a long, long thread without reading the earlier posts is that you post something relatively serious and then find that the whole bunch of preceding posts are jokes, wind-ups, rude remarks and sarcasm. Oh well.
Wow....Quote:
Originally Posted by BellaBellucci
lol oh man I just read the post, Im not even going to go through all the pages and read the comments on this one!
[QUOTE=Prospero;924253]Birgitta - so because YOU have faced prejudice it's okay to be prejudiced. that's odd logic.[/B]
I am sorry if my post is a bit messy, writing this from my mobile phone.
Everytime a guy shows interest in me coz he wants to be fucked its prejudice. I seriously suggest you get over it, why cant i call these guys gay, after all they want me to be a male for them......
Again i agree. Nothing wrog with being gay. But you seem to think people are either gay or straight. I know its more complicated. What about those who are interested in biological women but also interested in transgendered woman - both in an active and passive sense? Do you despise them for THEIR difference/ It appears so.
No honey, if there were only 100% straight people in this world, i would be in trouble.
I despise some powerbttms only for expecting me to understand and support their so called straight fetish simply because i am a ts. That is prejudice for you. And not even just that, they dont understand it when i call them gay because of it. Ask any gay guy in the world what they think about guys like yourself and they would tell me you are a gay man in denial lol. Cmon even your taste in music is queer lol. Good taste though. I like and respect you prospero, but when it comes to ts woman, you better wise up if you want to support them.
I do not bother you with my so called fetishes. How harsh you are in condemning those who are different from you when we are on your side. Once you would have been burned or persecuted for your own identity. Thank god that attitude is considerable gone - though not wholly gone. Plenty of "straight" soiety despies the transgendered. They are wrong. But so are you to be harsh to those who are different from ou.
That is actually extremely tasteless and disrespectfull to bring up our history of persucution and condemnation because i call you a fairy lol.
Comming from me u should consider it to be a compliment because the fact
Gaylesbian and transgender rights excist in some parts of the world is only because the transgendered and GAY people were tired of being treated like second class citizens and had the guts to do something about it. We dont have straight closeted powerbttms to thank for that.
You are in no way supporting the transgender community with a fetish that will ultimately damage our reputation as girls more then it does any good!
Also, the ones that made my life misarable were most likely powerbttms, transvestites, pedophiles, you name it, deeeeep in the closet and tangled in self denial that simply could not stand the sight of an openly feminine gay boy that was not in the closet and did not hide.
You seem actually a good example of that because you bring up that i should be thankfull not to get stoned by those hypocrites for calling you gay and having an opinion. Actually that is pretty disgusting.
If you actually want to do something for us, support the gay community instead if trying to explain to me what being open minded is all about as if i did not know. You are soooo open minded that you wont even let me call you gay sister!!!!
Again... you seem to miss what this site is about. It' about - largely - men who admire the beauty and sexuality of transgendered women as THEY conceive them to be in their own minds. Not the reality of a woman like you, but the desire to enjoy the hermaphrodite who can be bnoth a girl and a guy at the same time. Finally perhaps it is you who should not be here. This is - at the end of the day - primarily a site about pornography. Not a nice forum for genuinely nice girls like you to exchange their views on life. Seriously - there are other forums which are free of the porn content which you clearly find so utterly repellent.
I have no problem with porn in general, and no problem with guys looking for the best of both worlds, what does bother me is that it has become a powerbttm industry that has nothing to do with us tgirls but everything with the way guys like and objectify us. And the hypocrisy bothers me too.
Jeez.... I love real girls hugely Birgitta. I also love TS girls. I have tried sex with men. I did not like it. So if YOU want to call me a fairy and call me gay that's cool. I have no doubts about my rather pluralistic sexuality. Simple as that. I don't mind being called gay, since i love gay people and respect them. But it is reductionist to define all men who like cock and sex with girls as gay.
As to saying it is people like me who saved the transgendered from being persecuted and tortured etc - I did not claim that. i simply remarked that, thank GOD, that doesn't happen anymore - or at least not as much as it used to.
My musical taste is gay? good grief. Ella Fitzgerald, Bruce Springsteen, Mozart, Bach, Diamanda galas and a million more artistes... since when are these people's music the preserve of the supposedly gay or for that matter are their artistes who are only liked by 100 per cent straight people.. Again - I don't mind if you want to view me through that prism. It's your spectacles that need replacing, not mine.
I am actually very open minded - but I would object if you called me bald when i have a full head of hair, object if you called me Samoan or french or german when I'm british, object if you called me four foot three when i'm six foot etc... so I do object to be called a gay sister. Yes. Cos I am - at worst (or best) by conventional definitions - bisexual. It's simply a matter of truth. But whatever...
I am also not respnisible for - or representative of - those who have made your life miserable. I am not a paedophile, I am not a transvestite, I am by agreement of several of your sisters here a powerbottom (whatever that means) even though i actually enjoying fucking girls like you even more than i like getting fucked.
This is tiresome really.
We are complicated. Smple as that. I am against the simplistic reduction of any of us - you, me, Phobun and the thousands of others here - to anyone's simple definition. As a transgendered woman you demand and insist upon the right to be defined in YOUR terms. I demand the right to be defined in mine. Okay? pax vobiscum. xxx
Good replies prospero I agree whole heartedly with what you say. Brigitta be careful that you do not become what twisted you in the first place. The mindset you now have is of the ones that bullied you all those years ago which gives you a kind of affinity with them although ironically you may not be able to see this. We all enjoy what we like and power bottoms as you call them do you no harm so why do you attack them for being different to your sexual tastes.
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Originally Posted by phobun
A big percentage of my British clientelle also some Germans, Americans, Aussie, Canadians, Chinese, Indians like to wear stockings and high heels whenever i fuck them lol
im exaggerating cherie ok a more reality facts from my experience i think 98%. I remember like in 1 month all my clientelle are powerbottoms they just want cock in their ass :wiggle:Quote:
Originally Posted by SammiValentine
Oh FFS.
Some people like to fuck.
Some people like to be fucked.
Some people like to fuck and to be fucked.
In all three situations both same sex and different sex relationships can be involved.
It's that simple.
To each his or her own. Why get uptight or angry about what other people do? As long as nobody gets seriously hurt and children aren't involved, why worry?
OK?
Jeez.
Actually, no... no I don't. I'm top only, but I don't understand all the hate on bottoms, power-bottoms, and cock-hounds that goes on around here because the escort scene is full of dudes like that. Strictly put, if not for those kind of dudes, half of these ladies wouldn't be nearly as far along in their transition as they are and you'd be jackin' it to depressed fem-boys right about now.Quote:
Originally Posted by lady killer
Ooh dear....noooo tiresome is something else entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Thats having to deal with that 98% of men that like TS dear Alyssa is talking about and I know from experience that her numbers are accurate. The other 2% actually being black guys that want a secret one night stand. You guys make me feel so much like a woman. You are soooo understanding and open minded lol!
Imagine how it makes me feel like a woman, everytime a guy shows interest I have to suspect them of beeing a bttm transvestite, since 98 % of them are like that. (except for most black guys lol that other 2%)
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I am all for the simplistic reduction! I am just a straight girl, nothing more or less. baby you cant live the life of a TS if you cant stand the fact that a lot if not all of the truely straight men will NEVER EVER feel interested or see me as a real woman. No not even when i insist loooooool. You will just have to accept that some of us girls will suspect powerbttmguys like yourself to be gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
You identify as bisexual you say... now thats OK! But I dont think you will do so openly, since you say you dont like men lol.
My definition of openminded is a straight guy that falls in love with me despite of the fact that I am a TS.
It is not paying money to make tgirls do stuff they would not normally do with a loving bf.
stop it!! Shut the fuck up!!! Enough!!!!