What's Wrong With Transsexual Porn Part 2: Huge lacking of passable American Tgirls

There is a difference between passable in a static photo shoot and in video/person. There are many beautiful girls that photograph well and that I would love to be with but could not go out in public and not throw off an aura of being "different". That being said beauty is not the measure of being passable. I believe many of the amateur girl next door types as well as the ladies on here could go to a bar or restaurant and only turn heads for being a pretty girl.

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Originally Posted by Gilian

I went out with her in BKK, and she looked stunnin' ! And I am sure that any Asian local would probably know that she is a LB. But I could have taken her to any club in the Western world an nobody would have known. And I agree with the fact that straight guys and transsexuals have totally different ideas about passability.

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i find her hot and sexy but not passable no disrespect at all ;)

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

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i find her hot and sexy but not passable no disrespect at all ;)

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The thing is what you and Paris think is "passable" differs completely from what an average guy thinks is "passable".

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Originally Posted by tsparisangelline

Kimber james is not passable

Victoria Di Prada is not passable

TS Doll is not passable

Celeste is not passable

So since you obviously know little of passability in the transsexual community

your THREAD is a TOTAL FAIL

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Nice dish of truth right there. Have to agree.

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Originally Posted by JoePitt

The thing is what you and Paris think is "passable" differs completely from what an average guy thinks is "passable".

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not really! like i said have a test for yourself! date her in public and walk with her on the streets like in Bangkok or Singapore or Hong Kong and youll find out what im talking about ;)

Passable is all in the eye of the beholder too. A lot of Asian girls seem passable because they are petite but when you sit them next to actual gg asian girls they really are no more passable than the equivalant anglo giels.

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

not really! like i said have a test for yourself! date her in public and walk with her on the streets like in Bangkok or Singapore or Hong Kong and youll find out what im talking about ;)

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...but walk with her in London, Paris or NYC and she's passable. The countries you mentioned are more used to seeing transgenders like that.

People are mentioning some of the best looking models as being "un-passable" - it's absolute rubbish. Another TS or someone who is around the scene, knows what to look for but most of those girls (Kimber, Celeste, etc.) put them in the general public and the general public would not have a clue.

You seem very bitter a lot of the time Alyssa with your posts?

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Originally Posted by seanchai

...but walk with her in London, Paris or NYC and she's passable. The countries you mentioned are more used to seeing transgenders like that.

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Exactly. Celeste and Kimber are both very tiny, and that works out in their favor in the West. In Asia though, any woman who's taller than 5'6" is going get stared at and potentially clocked.

That's why so many trannys dread going into nail salons. First of all, we're far more likely to get clocked by them than by American or European women. And secondly those little Asian bitches are all talking smack in their native tongue about EVERYONE anyway. lol

"Uh oh! Godzilla needs a pedicure today! Ruuuuuuuuuun!" lol

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Exactly. Celeste and Kimber are both very tiny, and that works out in their favor in the West. In Asia though, any woman who's taller than 5'6" is going get stared at and potentially clocked.

That's why so many trannys dread going into nail salons. First of all, we're far more likely to get clocked by them than by American or European women. And secondly those little Asian bitches are all talking smack in their native tongue about EVERYONE anyway. lol

"Uh oh! Godzilla needs a pedicure today! Ruuuuuuuuuun!" lol

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bwhaha
the nails salons are the worst
because you knowwww they are talking about you..

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Originally Posted by seanchai

People are mentioning some of the best looking models as being "un-passable" - it's absolute rubbish. Another TS or someone who is around the scene, knows what to look for but most of those girls (Kimber, Celeste, etc.) put them in the general public and the general public would not have a clue.

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Couldn't agree more! I think too many people here put all of the girls under a microscope. Let's face it, there are plenty of GGs who look less feminine than some ts that have been described here as 'un-passable'.

People, look, it's a matter of sheer economics and prejudice. America is far wealthier than other parts of the world, and the women who transition well, most often opt out of porn. In other parts of the world, the girls are forced to support themselves (and often their families, as well) by porn and escorting, hence you see them there. I'm quite sure there's plenty of more passable American girls, but they're just not in porn.

Also, it is true, as was stated - the perception of the demand (I really disagree that it's there, but the belief is present with producers) is there that people want highly functional girls. And, if they're functional, by definition, they'll be less passable, since that's what testosterone does to the human body. It masculizes it. If the perception by the producers was for girls to be bottom-only and as feminine as possible, they'd block all of the testosterone, not be active, and far more feminine, and therefore, passable.

So, that's the full explanation of it.

There are always exceptions, though. Bianca Freire, Kalena Rios, Alana Ferreira, Miriam Rivera, and Luana Araujo are all very passable and have fully functioning cocks. There is nothing wrong with it. There are enough masculine looking ggs to make any reasonably hot t-girl passable.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

...but walk with her in London, Paris or NYC and she's passable. The countries you mentioned are more used to seeing transgenders like that.

People are mentioning some of the best looking models as being "un-passable" - it's absolute rubbish. Another TS or someone who is around the scene, knows what to look for but most of those girls (Kimber, Celeste, etc.) put them in the general public and the general public would not have a clue.

You seem very bitter a lot of the time Alyssa with your posts?

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huh! im not bitter at all! i didnt mention any TS name here its other poster who mention them not me ok ;)

by the way im base in Asia what could i do? if i tell those girls will are passable in the streets of Asia will be total rubbish right?

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Exactly. Celeste and Kimber are both very tiny, and that works out in their favor in the West. In Asia though, any woman who's taller than 5'6" is going get stared at and potentially clocked.

That's why so many trannys dread going into nail salons. First of all, we're far more likely to get clocked by them than by American or European women. And secondly those little Asian bitches are all talking smack in their native tongue about EVERYONE anyway. lol

"Uh oh! Godzilla needs a pedicure today! Ruuuuuuuuuun!" lol

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im also scared to go to nail salons for most are Chinese/HK people i dont know if they are talking that im a TS or not lol

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

by the way im base in Asia what could i do? if i tell those girls will are passable in the streets of Asia will be total rubbish right?

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if those girls walk down the street in bangkok with their hair done poorly, their make-up sloppy, their clothes lacking style and poorly fit, their feet in flats instead of hot high heels, caring as little about being attractive as most natural females who've been married for years do, rather than maximizing their beauty and sexuality as the ladyboys do -- i think they might pass.:geek:

miriam rivera doesn't pass in real life btw- and she's covered in scars....

YOU CAN ALways tell the difference between a woman and a ts

Kimber James, Bailey Jay, Yasmin Lee, Jessica Host, Natassia Dreams, Mia Isabella, Jezebel Yum... These chicks are all passable and they're American. The only one You forget is Celeste.

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Originally Posted by tsparisangelline

YOU CAN ALways tell the difference between a woman and a ts

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No you can't. Go watch Maury. Everyone on the show though Yasmin Lee was a gg.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Exactly. Celeste and Kimber are both very tiny, and that works out in their favor in the West. In Asia though, any woman who's taller than 5'6" is going get stared at and potentially clocked.

That's why so many trannys dread going into nail salons. First of all, we're far more likely to get clocked by them than by American or European women. And secondly those little Asian bitches are all talking smack in their native tongue about EVERYONE anyway. lol

"Uh oh! Godzilla needs a pedicure today! Ruuuuuuuuuun!" lol

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I never had a asian clock me.

Jessica Host USED to look passable but the surgeries she had actually fucked her face up. I don't like her at all but she was damn cute now her face looks clownish.

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

Jessica Host USED to look passable but the surgeries she had actually fucked her face up. I don't like her at all but she was damn cute now her face looks clownish.

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I still think she's cute, but it's true...a lot of chicks get surgery and lose their appeal.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

No you can't. Go watch Maury. Everyone on the show though Yasmin Lee was a gg.

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i am speaking of more masculine gg's

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Originally Posted by blatinobrotha

...a lot of chicks get surgery and lose their appeal.

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Absolutely. Like Kimber James what a nightmare. Even with four or five shots of Nemiroff Original I would still be looking for a window to jump out of.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

The biggest criticism I give to transsexual is the lack of passable girls. I see so many hot tgirls on escorts pages, but very few girls on the escort scene are pornstars. Girls like Yasmin Lee, Natassia Dreams, Kimber James, Victoria Di Prada, TS Doll, Jessica Host, Jessica Fox, Celeste, Jezebel, Bailey Jay, etc are passable.

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All clock-able to the trained eye and ear.

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Originally Posted by arnie666

The other issue ,is this emphasis on throat fucking , a blowjob is one thing, but seeing a girl spewing and choking over a mans penis isn't sexy to me.

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I like the Gag Factor series. To each his own. :)
http://www.gagfactor.com/covers/jm113_front_huge.jpg
http://static.rarbg.com/posters2/0/0...1e3054dec1.jpg

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Originally Posted by TsJizelle

in my personal experience with the girls...the passable 'americanized' girls tend to remain strictly as SPs and for the most part like to remain stealth. so lots don't wish to do porn

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SP? What does SP mean??

Make sense that they wouldn't want to do porn. Maybe they just want to feel like regular girls.

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Originally Posted by tsparisangelline

YOU CAN ALways tell the difference between a woman and a ts

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I agree with you on >99.99% of girls. But, if a girl transitions before puberty (meaning she's never been hit by pretty much any testosterone) and has really, really, really good genetics, she can do it.

I only know of about one or two examples, ever, given that almost no girls in the world are able to get t-blockers/estrogen/progesterone at an early enough age. If the girl is supported by her family, the medical community typically forces girls to wait until they're an "adult" meaning there's been some testosterone affect on them. If the girl isn't supported, she's typically working, meaning she needs use of her cock, also making there be some testosterone affect on them.

Only in the rare, rare, rare situation where a girl is extremely insistent at starting as early as possible, with unbelievably supportive parents are you going to get the biological conditions for a girl's body to form in the way that bio born women are, making them completely passable.

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Originally Posted by Nowhere

I agree with you on >99.99% of girls. But, if a girl transitions before puberty (meaning she's never been hit by pretty much any testosterone) and has really, really, really good genetics, she can do it.

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Only in the rare, rare, rare situation where a girl is extremely insistent at starting as early as possible, with unbelievably supportive parents are you going to get the biological conditions for a girl's body to form in the way that bio born women are, making them completely passable.

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Even people like that are not 100% passable. To a well trained eye and ear the sings are obvious.

One name comes to mind, Kim Petras probably one of the most flawless possible. Due in part to the support of her family and ability to sing well enough she has no need to do porn. But who knows she is an entertainer and they have a tendency after reaching a certain age to rebel against their teenybopper persona.

Let me show you who is flawless and is new in porn.

Sarina Valentina

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/pic...&pictureid=958

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/pic...&pictureid=959

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/pic...&pictureid=960

We need more girls like Sarina in porn.

the more passable a girl is usually means the more consistent on hormones she is.now while one can still function while on hormones one can not ejaculate (shoot).in shemale porn thats what alot of directors and fans want.some girls just arent willing to delay or set their transition back to make a movie.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

Let me show you who is flawless and is new in porn.

Sarina Valentina

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/pic...&pictureid=958

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/pic...&pictureid=959

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/pic...&pictureid=960

We need more girls like Sarina in porn.

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Isn't that Alexis/Saige? If that is, then she is not new to porn.

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Originally Posted by Nowhere

I agree with you on >99.99% of girls. But, if a girl transitions before puberty (meaning she's never been hit by pretty much any testosterone) and has really, really, really good genetics, she can do it.

I only know of about one or two examples, ever, given that almost no girls in the world are able to get t-blockers/estrogen/progesterone at an early enough age. If the girl is supported by her family, the medical community typically forces girls to wait until they're an "adult" meaning there's been some testosterone affect on them. If the girl isn't supported, she's typically working, meaning she needs use of her cock, also making there be some testosterone affect on them.

Only in the rare, rare, rare situation where a girl is extremely insistent at starting as early as possible, with unbelievably supportive parents are you going to get the biological conditions for a girl's body to form in the way that bio born women are, making them completely passable.

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before you qouted my post you should have read the next message i made

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

the more passable a girl is usually means the more consistent on hormones she is.now while one can still function while on hormones one can not ejaculate (shoot).in shemale porn thats what alot of directors and fans want.some girls just arent willing to delay or set their transition back to make a movie.

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that's definately my hold up! I won't come off of hormones just to shoot a load for a camera. I'll take cialis to put on a good show on webcam but i'm too masculine to come off of the hormones. =(

sometimes i wish i just ran away from i was 16 and started hormones then but then again puberty started for me as early as 12 =(

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Originally Posted by BrendaQG

Even people like that are not 100% passable. To a well trained eye and ear the sings are obvious.

One name comes to mind, Kim Petras probably one of the most flawless possible. Due in part to the support of her family and ability to sing well enough she has no need to do porn. But who knows she is an entertainer and they have a tendency after reaching a certain age to rebel against their teenybopper persona.

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kim petras is clockeable

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Originally Posted by MissBStar

that's definately my hold up! I won't come off of hormones just to shoot a load for a camera. I'll take cialis to put on a good show on webcam but i'm too masculine to come off of the hormones. =(

sometimes i wish i just ran away from i was 16 and started hormones then but then again puberty started for me as early as 12 =(

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girl no shade but neither am i.you could get all the surgeries in the world but youll still look manly without blocking the testosterone and inserting estrogen.
sure youll have this fab porn career and money but when your ass getss old and no longer making movies youll be just another manly ts that gets laughed at.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

the more passable a girl is usually means the more consistent on hormones she is.now while one can still function while on hormones one can not ejaculate (shoot).in shemale porn thats what alot of directors and fans want.some girls just arent willing to delay or set their transition back to make a movie.

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most TS admirers/chasers like a hard huge COCK that could CUM usually no matter the TS girl look like. so in the end most TS girls need to stop or lessen hormones and look more musculine

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

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most TS admirers/chasers like a hard huge COCK that could CUM usually no matter the TS girl look like. so in the end most TS girls need to stop or lessen hormones and look more musculine

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I disagree, for me anyway. I don't care what size the cock is so long as it can cum. The reason for this, from the time I was 8, I have hated and feared the idea of women faking orgasms (I have done whatever it takes to get my girlfriends to cum as often as physically possible due to this fear, using anything I could learn... that is why I always worked with my gg girlfriends on squirting). That shit messed with me. I knew the sexiest thing I had ever seen women do was cum and quite frankly, orgasms should never be fake. You can't fake cum. I want the girl to look and act very feminine, but ultimately, I want to see her cum so that I can see her in the most sexually appealing state. I don't care about size and I don't want her to use it on me, but I want her to cum. I am not saying girls should stop the hormones, but don't go all steroid freak with the dosages. I don't particularly know the science of the thing, but I would imagine at a certain point, you can pretty much maintain with a lower dose, look beautiful, and still cum.

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

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most TS admirers/chasers like a hard huge COCK that could CUM usually no matter the TS girl look like. so in the end most TS girls need to stop or lessen hormones and look more musculine

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I am gonna have to disagree. Although I am sure that is true for some guys, but most guys do not want a TS girl who look masculine. What would be the point of being with a TS girl when she looks masculine?

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Originally Posted by alyssaluxor

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most TS admirers/chasers like a hard huge COCK that could CUM usually no matter the TS girl look like. so in the end most TS girls need to stop or lessen hormones and look more musculine

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Complete and utter bollocks.

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Originally Posted by Gthoma2a

I disagree, for me anyway. I don't care what size the cock is so long as it can cum. The reason for this, from the time I was 8, I have hated and feared the idea of women faking orgasms (I have done whatever it takes to get my girlfriends to cum as often as physically possible due to this fear, using anything I could learn... that is why I always worked with my gg girlfriends on squirting). That shit messed with me. I knew the sexiest thing I had ever seen women do was cum and quite frankly, orgasms should never be fake. You can't fake cum. I want the girl to look and act very feminine, but ultimately, I want to see her cum so that I can see her in the most sexually appealing state. I don't care about size and I don't want her to use it on me, but I want her to cum. I am not saying girls should stop the hormones, but don't go all steroid freak with the dosages. I don't particularly know the science of the thing, but I would imagine at a certain point, you can pretty much maintain with a lower dose, look beautiful, and still cum.

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sad to say but no you cant.a girl can be on hormones and be functional(i.e get erections and orgasms) but in order for the estrogen to work properly the testosterone has to be almost completely blocked.semen is a by product of testosterone.when you go to the doctor he/she puts you on the proper dose and one of the signs they look for to see if the dose is effective is lack of ejaculate.