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are these pics legal?
Well, I doubt anyone has their BC on file with a lawyer to prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikka
Honestly depends where they are. Age of consent laws vary from state to state.
However porn regulations can be a bit different...Quote:
Originally Posted by rockabilly
Ever notice how commercial porn (movies or sites) will give contact info, like an address, for people interested in getting proof of age? They don't put that information there for the people who want write them about how many times they came from it while masturbating. It's there in case law enforcement go "wait, that girl doesn't look legal", they know how to reach someone who has that info on the models on file.
Believe the youngest anyone can legally have sex in the US is 12, you can NOT sell porn of 12 yo's in the US legally. In any state. Doesn't matter what the age of consent is.
IDK how much of this applies to amateur (aka not commercial) porn or amateur porn hosting though.
Agreed .
Huh? I'm fairly certain the youngest AoC in the U.S. is 16.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahG
..oops, nevermind, misunderstood. sorry
Until the girl featured asks for the images to be removed from a site then it is fair use. Also if they are posted to an image board they are technically yours to do what you want with.
"GREAT SUCCESS!"Quote:
Originally Posted by FREEFALLL666
DING DING DINGQuote:
Originally Posted by SarahG
So damn sexy and gorgeous...her dick would never leave my mouth!
Isn't that why all girls in porn shave their vulvas, and why you hear so many men saying they only like a hairless pussy?Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahG
My goodness, they are both cute.
cute
wow ya, both of them are quite stunning!
Are you folks serious? Honestly? Because if that's the case, then you've just labeled most men as pedophiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by dgs925
Speaking for myself, and I think I speak for a good majority of men on this, it ultimately comes down to a matter of a woman's personal hygiene. Think of it this way: have you ever gone a couple of days without putting on deodorant? If so, then you know that odor gets absorbed by your underarm hair, and it takes more than a couple of days worth of normal washing and antiperspirant use to get rid of it. So imagine a woman not using any sort of deodorant "downstairs" and letting the hair grow wild. Pretty disgusting, don't you think? I'm sure there are men out there who groom themselves for the same reason, too.
Point being: critical thinking is a must, but let's watch the over-analyzing, huh? Sheesh...
I all these pics it really looks like they live in a house full of squatters
I think we'd be fooling ourselves if we refused to acknowledge that, in western society at least, youth is stressed quite heavily for determining the sexual "attractiveness" of women.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrassVillanueva
Why do you think female entertainers in general obsess so much about trying to stay young; be it from plastic surgery, botox, etc.? It's because their careers' lifespan (even when we're just talking about Tv or movie actresses) is based on how young they look. Post-menopausal career options for women in entertainment are quite lower, especially if compared to say, people under 25... that's not coincidental.
To say nothing about all the ways roles, personality, and maturity are taken into consideration with hetero guys' perceptions of sexual attractiveness. I.e. the whole "girly," boubly, cheery performances stereotypical of little girls that are incorporated into adult sex norms.... you see far more girls, IRL or in porn, pretending to be younger than they are for the benefit of guys then then you see girls pretending to be older. Example: school girl outfits, calling guys "daddy," I could go on and on with examples.
It's probably greatly abnormal (statistically) in our society for women to pretend to be older for men in similar settings. We have all these "school girl" and "barely legal" roles, but when was the last time you saw a girl pretending to be significantly older to be in the "role" of a mom, grandmother, teacher, or calling their partner "son" instead of daddy, etc?
These are generalities of course, but I don't know of a sociology, psychology, or anthropology program that fails to discus this in the academic world because its so easy to illustrate using examples everyone is familiar with.
Would it really be that bad of a thing if most guys really were pedos? Think about it for a minute, the reason why we have age of consent laws has nothing to do with "how people look" or "what people are attracted to." The reason why having sex with kids is wrong is simply because their brains aren't developed enough to let them accurately appraise sexual situations, that's why they're called "age of consent laws"- its about whether or not someone has the capability of consenting.
Physical development and brain development are two vastly different things. Some people never develop enough to consent to sex (i.e. veggies, mental retardation), and some peoples' bodies never develop secondary sex characteristics (or have abnormally delayed secondary sex development).
But I'm not sure I would suppose that one could easily label most men as pedos. As some people have put it before in academic circles, the "sex model" for hetero men in western society is a "12 year old malnourished boy... with long hair and tits",* even when guys are going out of their way to find porn where girls' youthfulness is exaggerated (i.e. "Barely legal") they expect a degree of secondary sex development; i.e. breasts, curves, so on.
If most men were pedos (that is, heavily attracted to people lacking secondary sex development), then I would imagine breast implants, ass implants, and similar cosmetic procedures would be far less common. It seems, and maybe I am reading too much into this, that what guys want is a hybrid of characteristics that cannot easily be met by either natural full development, or the polar opposite (no development at all).
* The times I've seen it put that way, in papers and such, it wasn't to imply most guys LITERALLY like "12 year old boys with tits," it was in reference to body size & frame-shape, not genitalia. If you look at fashion runway models you'll get a sense of what is meant by this.
The difference, though, is that there IS that gap between lack of physical development and maturity, and any hybrid between the two in a fully mature woman is probably cause for concern, at least medically. Now, certainly men like youthful women, there's no question about that. But to push the explanation so far as to say that the stereotypical male is attracted to the appearance of an underaged girl is extreme. Hearing it explained that way is like hearing a necrophiliac saying that, since it's illegal to actually engage in necrophilia, he has his wife dress up in tattered burial clothes, take a bath in icewater and rub herself down with a block of Limburger cheese before they have sex. Which, in and of itself, would be downright hilarious, but the point is the same: to appeal to an attraction that would otherwise be impossible (or against the law) to fulfill.
And as for the question about all men being pedophiles being such a bad thing, yes! It would be! I mean, I understand your argument, and to some extent I agree with you that the laws are in place because most girls below the age of consent aren't capable of the necessary judgment, but I also see the other side of it as well: anyone who is sexually attracted to a prepubescent child has something seriously wrong with them, and there is no debating that. That's not a normal or acceptable attraction to have (and yes, I'm fully aware of the forum on which I'm posting this), and the very fact that we're even discussing this proves that those who exhibit such an attraction are in it purely for the sexual aspect and nothing else. Now, far be it from me to say that if a 30-year-old meets a 16- or 17-year-old and they develop a healthy relationship, that's wrong. It's not, and I would never suggest such a thing. But take that same 30-year-old and make the 16-year-old a 12-year-old instead, THEN we've got a problem. Where the line is drawn is obviously a matter of several factors, and I think we've already listed most of them. But the fact remains: there is a line, and it's not just one of legality.
As for the sociological aspect of the debate, I think your generalizations are even broader and more sweeping than you make them out to be. Take a look at the whole section of the porn industry dedicated to older performers. You've got MILF this and "mature" that, lesbian sex with partners at least twenty years apart in age, videos and pictures that appeal mostly to those who find the idea of incest appealing, in which younger men have sex with older women for the appearance of a mother/son sexual relationship... and in many cases, the age difference is very obviously played up in that appearance. Hell, I've even seen ads here recently for the web site of a "transsexual MILF!" Don't kid yourself: that type of interest DOES exist in our society, and even if it may not be as prevalent as what we're talking about, it does comprise a lot of the adult entertainment industry, so there must be a good demand for it. Now out in the REAL world, yes, that may be statistically abnormal, but what is pornography if not an attempt to at least visualize the fantasies we may never indulge in in the real world? If anything, porn is the ultimate expression of who we are as sexual people.
I truly find it amazing that this is even a topic of debate. What I'm attracted to is what I'm attracted to, not what society or anyone else told me to be attracted to. How did I develop my attraction? As I grew up, I realized there were certain traits I preferred over others. Simple as that. Why I prefer them is simply a matter of my own personal tastes, influenced only by what makes me happy. Certainly there are people out there who allow themselves to be influenced by more factors, but I'm not willing to accept the idea that even the slim majority of us are so gullible. Many sociologists would have you believe that most people are mindless drones who simply float downstream on the river of society's whims. The way I see it, that couldn't be further from the truth. Otherwise, we'd ALL have voted for Barack Obama instead of just 53% of us.
keep this post going.
See that's the entire argument, at least legally. Everything else extends beyond the scope of the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrassVillanueva
Just being odd or sick or disturbed or twisted or anything else, isn't enough of a reason to regulate any given activity. The line is when someone is being harmed, once someone crosses that line- then the law can sick the dogs on them.
I'll agree its a purely sexual attraction, but I don't see how you came to that using that logic.Quote:
the very fact that we're even discussing this proves that those who exhibit such an attraction are in it purely for the sexual aspect and nothing else.
So where do you draw the line, at 12? 13? 14? 15? 16? There is no consistency in age of consent laws, in fact they range from 12 to 18 depending on where you live. Hell sometimes the age of consent is different depending on the sex of the person, or the type of sexual act being committed.Quote:
Now, far be it from me to say that if a 30-year-old meets a 16- or 17-year-old and they develop a healthy relationship, that's wrong. It's not, and I would never suggest such a thing. But take that same 30-year-old and make the 16-year-old a 12-year-old instead, THEN we've got a problem.
The standard should be whether or not the kid has the brain development critical to accurately apprising sexual situations. The reason why you can't go by appearance is that someone who hits puberty at 10 would look more like a 16 year old then a 17 year old who just got her first period. The on set of puberty is not a constant, and is greatly influenced by things like diet (that's why you'll see gymnists in their late teens & 20s who look like they're 12).
Even the law itself can't accurately draw these distinctions, that's why so many states use a soft-line instead of a hard-line. Meaning, the age of consent laws take into consideration the age of both partners so that guys dont get labeled as pedophilic sex offenders at 14 for having sex with their 14 year old GF's.
Sure, there's even "granny porn" but you can't seriously be expecting people to buy that it's more popular (or even just equally popular) than say, "barely legal" porn or "school girl" role playing.Quote:
You've got MILF this and "mature" that, lesbian sex with partners at least twenty years apart in age, videos and pictures that appeal mostly to those who find the idea of incest appealing, in which younger men have sex with older women for the appearance of a mother/son sexual relationship... and in many cases, the age difference is very obviously played up in that appearance. Hell, I've even seen ads here recently for the web site of a "transsexual MILF!" Don't kid yourself: that type of interest DOES exist in our society,
I think that's the whole point, the guys attracted to the young early transitioners are able to enjoy a fantasy that involves people who physically resemble young pubescent girls (aka underage) without actually hurting anyone. Someone whose only development is from hrt, and only a few years of it, is going to (below the neck anyway) resemble a girl who has yet to fully develop secondary sex characteristics. Meaning not a lot of curves, early tanner stage breasts, and when combined with waxed pubes, nothing to indicate that puberty has but just begun.Quote:
Now out in the REAL world, yes, that may be statistically abnormal, but what is pornography if not an attempt to at least visualize the fantasies we may never indulge in in the real world? If anything, porn is the ultimate expression of who we are as sexual people.
Gullible? who said anything about being gullible?Quote:
Certainly there are people out there who allow themselves to be influenced by more factors, but I'm not willing to accept the idea that even the slim majority of us are so gullible.
You really believe that societal influences play no role whatsoever?
The history doesn't back that up. Just look at the women who were tight lacers in the victorian era, engaging in extreme body mods to make a hourglass shape that NEVER exists "naturally" in any human. Yet it was one of the most popular things for men to be into, which was why so many women wore such tight corsets 24/7... fast forward to today and how often do you hear a guy saying "you know, I just can't enter into a sexual relation with a women who hasn't bent her rib cage to 18 inch dimensions"? Interests change over time, and they change because of the way people are influenced by society. Influenced, not controlled. I think you're confusing the two.
So what would you say about all the people who masturbate to tentacle hentia porn? Obviously there aren't octopuses in the wild with cocks as legs, let alone ones that dischange white semen, so the entire porn genre is socially construed fiction.
What about furries? Would furries exist without societal influences playing a role?
Actually that's evidence that we are mindless sheep to a point. The reason why a two party system is so resilient in the United States, is because between the "left" and the "right" to choose from, MOST people have a side to feel like supporting without putting a great deal of thought into it. The random 3rd party candidate never becomes more than an occasional foot note because it only appeals to the people who THINK they are "different" (to use a popular culture reference, think the oracle role from the Matrix series).Quote:
Otherwise, we'd ALL have voted for Barack Obama instead of just 53% of us.
Society doesn't control us, but it heavily influences us. Consider what happens without societal influences. A human biologically raised in isolation without socialization of some kind lacks any of the traits we consider human; walking, language, tool-use, culture, so on and so on. The mind is a gland, and as a gland it needs environmental stimulus in order to function. Prevent it from ever getting that stimulus and you have what resembles a human, but in a near veggie state of existence.
Can you explain how a fetish may arise or fall out of popularity without societal influence being a component?
All I know is, this Bekki (or Iodine) girl is AMAZING looking. So cute.
Great stuff
Are you serious? Have you ever smelled a hairy pussy? It is the greatest smell ever, expecially after it's been in a tight pair of jeans all day. Sweeter than any flower!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrassVillanueva
I'd pick here up. She even has a convenient handle below her belly button.
Is this the same chic?
http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/bekki8_210.jpg
What turns me on is the copy of NN2S... :lol:
Ugh, 12, really!?Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahG
anymore of those 2 girls
got any more vids? would be greatly appreciated!
If that video doesn't make you want more, well I don't know what would!! WOW!! That was hot.
Thanks Inigo_Montoya for posting those pics of Sascha and the link to those other pics of her - sorry I've been away for awhile so just catching up. Wow! I was right, Sascha is packing an impressive cock, cute dimples on her back and nice arse too...I hope she is still on the scene and if anyone else had anymore pics/links, please post! Thanks
What I like about these girls is how "unprocessed" they are.
No fake designer hand bags, no fake designer glasses, no drama and apparently fun.
Just saying.....
hi beccki is hot pity i couldn't see that link was it a clip or just pixs? plse send more pixs n clips of this hot gurl
+1!
The girl giving head is gorgeous!
Girl getting not so.
any new pics or info on the girls
GREAT POST BEKKI IS CUTE PLEASE ANYMORE POST!!! :D
Not sure if any of these are reposts
more
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Can you make those a little bigger!
Also....man that is one kinky orgy!