Okay, a nutter talk radio host said so. It must be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
You're a paranoid and gullible dumbass.
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Okay, a nutter talk radio host said so. It must be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
You're a paranoid and gullible dumbass.
CNBC blurb... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98
Remember phobun, the greatest government conspiracy of all, is the view that there are no conspiracies...
So I ask, who's the gullible one?
No, that is one guest who works for a private company. He's probably a gullible dumbass like you and the rest of your paranoid buddies.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
Is this all you have to support your wild fantasies? You're nuts. Get help.
I believe that the government is indeed gullible.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
But I also believe that conspiracies exist and people have gone to jail for them.
Just not conspiracies as in the paranoid fantasies of you and Alex Jones.
Connect the dots...
http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/NAU/
http://www.spp.gov/
http://www.judicialwatch.org/SPP.shtml
I could post more but I won't
You're a credulous fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
no comment...Quote:
Originally Posted by phobun
Thereby you don't deny it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
No, I have nothing more to say to your rigid-minded kind
To be honest with you, I am a reptilian hybrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
That is why I am of a "rigid-minded kind"...
David Icke, Alex Jones and El Nino... normal, open-minded guys.
Umm...it's not paranoia. If I was being paranoid, I'd be running around like a chicken with my head cut off talking about how "they" are out to get us and other such nonsense like The Illuminati, the NWO, etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by phobun
All I've done is identify-correctly-the measures our government uses in order to increase it's control. If you understand political history, you'd realize that is the aim of ANY government...no matter how benevolent or well-meaning a government's intentions, it always seeks to exert as much control as possible without villifying itself.
I don't live in a bomb shelter or survivalist camp...I don't stock up on guns and homemade bombs...I don't have any inclination to bring down the government or expose the "conspiracies"...and I don't sing doom and gloom to anyone who will listen. I see government for what is and the human condition for what it is. I live my life as best as I can, doing as little harm as I can and trying to lessen any harm that may come my way.
If you call that "paranoia", than you obviously do not know what the word means.
No its not a hoax and by the way I HAVE been using google......A LOT!
From what I have heard they have a green light for the operation to begin....there is nothing to stop them.
To get all of you dummies to go along with this....like the patriot act there has to be an event which triggers panic.
That event will be the collapse of the dollar.
I have told anyone who will listen that the president follows a script that he doesnt write.
You have to understand that Obama comes from the economic school called neo-liberalism.
He STRONGLY believes in offshoring our jobs,multinational trade agreements and the wall street agenda which is at its core anti american.
The real power has ALWAYS been in the hands of the U.S Treasury and the Federal Reserve.
If you control the money and the monetary policy of a country you control the country ultimately.
If you really want answers you should direct you questions there.
You all are totally bat-shit crazy.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=amero
So if these people are crazy then WTF is a Union of North America. And these coins that are being sold on ebay are prototypes. Something is going on now IDK but i'm leaning more toward's the US and China thing.
Something big and bad for sure is going to happen. Cats hanging with dogs, dogs hanging with cats. Giant marshmallow men stombing through our cities. Who ya gonna call?
Nice ad hominem. That's usually what one is reduced to when he can't refute the facts presented to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by phobun
@ el Nino: I don't think you should put much credence in Hal Turner. Alex Jones is more reliable.
I don't think its really conspiracy or paranoia to think something bad may happen. Its naive to believe things can stay good or bad forever for any one place or country. History shows all great nations have risen and fallen. The world is changing, and its becoming a more level place, economically as it where.
I imagine, someone like the OP said similar things during Greece's power, or Romes, or even during the British Empire. Nobody could believe at that time a country that controlled around 25% of the earth could fall.
I don't think America will disappear (nor do I want it to) but perhaps it wont be as powerful politically and economically in the future. Who knows, 200 years from now, they may teach of the great American Power. Only time will tell.
It figures Nino would be shilling for a white supremacist like Hal Turner. Turner is a batshit crazy lunatic like Alex Jones who preys on weak and paranoid minds. It's also no surprise that Nino's fallen hero crazy Ron Paul was the keynote speaker for the John Birch Society. All the while Nino, thx, and the rest of the deluded members of the tinfoil militia keep spreading their hysteria like cuckoo droppings throughout cyberspace.Quote:
Originally Posted by thx1138
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by chefmike
"The biggest conspiracy has always been the fact that there is no conspiracy. Nobody's out to get you. Nobody gives a shit whether you live or die. There, you feel better now?" -- Dennis Miller
"One of the reasons for conspiracy theories is an assumption that people in high places always know what they are doing. When they do something that makes no sense, devious reasons are imagined by conspiracy theorists, when in fact it may be due to plain old ignorance and incompetence." -- Thomas Sowell
"Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence." -- Unknown
Well, call it conspiracy, call it that people are so stupid they drink up all the bullshit they are fed as it was fresh water. I believe something in the world isn't right. There is a pattern that is to strong to be ignored. Too many dire occurrences are not what they seem to be from the news: as terrorist attacks, where the terrorists have nothing to gain from them; as the economic crisis, which in my opinion was orchestrated; as the creation of unconstitutional department as the Homeland Security and laws like the Patriot Act. We criticize China and Iran, while in the US a man is killed cold blood by the police; where an innocent man is due for execution in Texas, accused of strangling the daughter of a Senator.
I like to read a lot, and in my research I witnessed enough information to strongly slant my views to believing many conspiracy theories have more truth than what most could believe possible. I don't want to argue or be referred to “join Alex Jones and Michael Moore and their crusades"; what I would like is to stir attention to learn more about what shapes your daily lives, what is behind the politicians that you think have your interests at heart, why they keep telling you that the US is capitalist if there is a virtual shift towards a Corporatocracy where you are all employees and few own the assets(capital). Why not learning why they keep calling this the land of the free, while there are more people in jail, prison and probation than ALL the other countries of the world COMBINED(http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/correct.htm ).
I wish that instead of flaming at my uncorroborated accusations of conspiracy, you would think and start looking for the pattern in the news; think who really is to gain from the various incidents; why are your rights as citizen being slowly(or maybe swiftly) taken away; why is the US allowing the use of torture and no legal assistance (what goes around comes around, remember); why fucking Israel is allowed to kill the Palestinians (and you can argue as much as you want, but I know what I am talking about here, so do your history research, or if you are just pro-Israel…fuck you!); why there are so many Jewish (pro-Israel) individuals in the Congress and in the Presidential Cabinet (the Jews are officially 14-18 million worldwide, with 6mm in Israel and 6+ in the US, the fact that they have so much influence is a form of reverse discrimination).
http://www.michaeljournal.org/bilder.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hqsQ...eature=related
Great points. I mean, truly. Sadly though, Chef et al, have already made up their minds and appear to be pretty LOCKED into the Left Vs. Right false paradigm; set up to distract the masses from a bigger picture. Obama, Bush, McCain, Clinton, it doesn't matter, they are all puppets of the elite. Its not worth your time trying to awaken people to something different than what they are already FIXATED upon...Quote:
Originally Posted by porcazio
You should talk to a friend of mine. You can reach him on Facebook. his name is Andy Witson on there. He can help explain some things about what may happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
:) Its ok to be worried. its natural.
Fear is common among people of religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by DS-Kika
"A witty saying proves nothing."-VoltaireQuote:
Originally Posted by phobun
"People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them Benjamin Franklin said it first."-David H. Cominus
Religions preach that people are lowly and powerless and doomed unless they submit to the controlling power.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_drade
Now that traditional religions have lost sway, the biological desire to be feeble-minded nonetheless persists among the stupid, so they search out big government conspiracies intervening in their lives, or they accept David Icke's mad ravings about reptilian space aliens, etc.
Considering that I quoted a comedian, a not-very-well-known economist and an unknown, the Ben Franklin bit is a non-sequitur. And considering none of the quotes were particularly witty, just matter of fact, then double fail for the Voltaire commentary. Triple fail for criticizing the use of quotes with quotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by GinX
Sorry to give it to you in the ass like this, because I know you're enjoying it.
For fuck's sake, you really are one of David Icke's goons.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
He's a chip off the ol' Kaczynski, isn't he? Nino has one foot on a banana peel and the other in a padded cell...Quote:
Originally Posted by phobun
I saw the movie 'Bug' on showtime last night and couldn't help but be reminded of HA's resident raving paranoids:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470705/
Chef,, you must be psyched for Obama's upcoming socialist policies for the Country, huh? Maybe if you're lucky, his administration can push for a one world government type system, dissolving sovereign nations and individualism. Wouldn't that be just fantastic?
/Sarcasm
So first El Nino writes "Sadly though, Chef et al, have already made up their minds and appear to be pretty LOCKED into the Left Vs. Right false paradigm; set up to distract the masses from a bigger picture. Obama, Bush, McCain, Clinton, it doesn't matter, they are all puppets of the elite."Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
Then, El Nino hypocritically attacks Chef over Obama being a leftist world-government socialist, above!
A sign of a schizophrenic is when he no longer sees his own cognitive dissonance. El Nino is either incredibly dumb or schizophrenic or both.
/Sarcasm?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
More like:
/Psychosis
Hey, maybe the rest of your Civil Liberties will finally be degraded as well? But if it is in the interest of your security, it is ok... right? Arianna H... I mean Chef?
this is a 12 page thread why?
This is why. "Fear is common among people of religion."Quote:
Originally Posted by Gh0strider
El Nino posts educated opinions, ones that I second. While, those that ridicule him, unfairly, seem to vent spite, lacking foundations. Why not proposing your differing opinions in an organized and informational fashion? Why not replying with examples corroborating your views?
I think El Nino is quite right, but maybe we are both wrong...so why don't you, who differ in opinion, present your arguments that would prove Ron Paul a joke and Obama’s cabinet a great one. Be supportive of your arguments.Quote:
Ron Paul is a very smart individual that exhibits Founding Father type qualities. He understands economic principals far better than anyone of the wall St. criminals that "Obama" has picked to be on "his" staff. Knocking Dr. Paul is ridiculous
I like Ron Paul, who promptly attacks the Federal Reserve as being unconstitutionally chartered; who wants the Patriot Act repealed; who advocates less foreign intervention and influencing by the US. I find that Obama picked a series of aides with too many skeletons in their closets: ex-Fed chief Paul Volcker; Rahm Emanuel, whose links to the Israeli intelligence service, the Mossad, were allegedly so great that President Bill Clinton was forced to dismiss Emanuel from the White House staff in 1998; Timothy Franz Geithner, New York Federal Reserve President, and Worked at the Treasury department under Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers (all finance goodfellas).
What say thee?
Phobun wrote:
Maybe it is a hoax. I can’t tell for sure. On the one hand why would Mexico, the US and Canada join in one currency, giving up their own; on the other hand, if after a period of deflation, the counter effect of inflation and devaluation of the dollar would reach such critical level where China will exchange the Dollar for Euros or Gold, as its strategic reserve, and Opec would stop dealing oil in dollars, then one might expect an Argentine style fall of the dollar. It could then make sense talking about the ameros.Quote:
El Nino wrote:
Solitary Brother wrote:
And?
The coins are not in circulation.
According to rumour China just got a shipment of 800 billion dollars worth of Ameros because they hold most of our debt.
I am beginning to wonder about this "infastructure" program of Obama.
1 trillion dollars.
That would be about what is needed to complete the "10 lane superhighway" from Mexico to Canada.
Hope I am wrong.
But I know that I am not.
Just remember who warned you.
That's not just Rumor, we did in fact send them 800 billion in Ameros... Google it
IT IS A HOAX DUMBASS.
AND…..PHOBUN, I never heard anyone so proactively empty in his crusade as you. Your spiteful attacks go unmatched. I wonder why you stick around; don’t you get bored? El Nino provides tons of supporting evidence, strong or not, to his views. You only reply in such fashion as :
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“For fuck's sake, you really are one of David Icke's goons.” or “You are a bunch of fucks.”
You might be an untapped intelligence, but for as long as your remarks remain empty and spiteful, you, on your best day, won’t rival El Nino postings, on his worst. I love sharing ideas and confronting differing views, but you are something else, PHOBUN; you don’t bring anything to the table.
So go write a book about it, a lot of people love to run stuff like this, you could make millionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
Thanks for the intelligent response and support Porcazio. I really appreciate it. You make excellent observations.
Considering that you quoted a comedian who is hung-up on his own belief in how witty he is, Voltaire's quote is quite appropriate. Fail on you for not catching on to that. Considering also that most people use other people's quotes in a senseless appeal to authority, the 'Ben Franklin' bit is also rather appropriate. Finally, for not catching on to the sarcasm of my post, you earn an epic fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by phobun
You don't have to be sorry...watching you make a complete ass of yourself whilst STILL not being able to refute any of factual information I previously posted is the best kind of free entertainment I can find.