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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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I am atheist because I am intelligent enough to understand that all religion is a lie. There is no God and if there was, he/she wouldn't be a dick as depicted in the bible. Religion is mass conspiracy against the people to gain control over the masses. It was created by ancient civilizations to explain all the weird shit we couldn't understand or explain. Religion evolved into what it is today and has caused nothing but destruction and war. Islam is just the worst of it, invented by a homicidal, pedophilic, terrorist. I could name many other "religions" that are just money scams and evil organizations, like the Catholic Church (who supported the Nazis in WWII) and Scientology (probably the largest money scam in U.S. history).

Over here in the UK I think the general consensus has been that Israel are over stepping the mark but the BBC has been a bit biased, always mentioning terrorism when talking about the Palestinians

As Allanah says peace is the only good outcome and even though I don't think policy will change it will be better having diplomatic Obama working with it than war mongering Bush

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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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I am atheist because I am intelligent enough to understand that all religion is a lie. There is no God and if there was, he/she wouldn't be a dick as depicted in the bible. Religion is mass conspiracy against the people to gain control over the masses. It was created by ancient civilizations to explain all the weird shit we couldn't understand or explain. Religion evolved into what it is today and has caused nothing but destruction and war. Islam is just the worst of it, invented by a homicidal, pedophilic, terrorist. I could name many other "religions" that are just money scams and evil organizations, like the Catholic Church (who supported the Nazis in WWII) and Scientology (probably the largest money scam in U.S. history).

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Ok, fair enough answer. You either see the whole thing as shit - or you accept all reglions.
However, stating that the area was "infected" by Muslims (paraphrased) is akin to stating that Israel is "infected" by Jews or Judaism, is it not? Or have you chosen to side with one conspiracy over another?

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Over here in the UK I think the general consensus has been that Israel are over stepping the mark but the BBC has been a bit biased, always mentioning terrorism when talking about the Palestinians

As Allanah says peace is the only good outcome and even though I don't think policy will change it will be better having diplomatic Obama working with it than war mongering Bush

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uhm ouch.....
Bush isnt war mongering in my mind hes just arrogant.He disobeyed UN orders but now a country is free of a dictator. Although we did more harm then needed.
But I do credit bush since the 9-11 attack not one attack has happened on US soil. Obama has a good plan BUT iI doubt it will go in affect his first term if allowed two terms.

I meant his rather gung-ho attitude

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I don't really have the energy to debate this subject, but I will say that I think the situation is utterly deplorable, and that Israel should adhere to international law.

I realize that the news coverage in the states is blatantly pro-Israel (and by pro Israel I do not mean to imply that all Israeli's support the policies of the hawkish Israeli government) Ignoring the siege of Gaza and other grievous human rights violations would most certainly allow one to think that the invasion of Gaza is a response to rocket attacks, however the reality of the situation is infinitely more complicated, and infinitely more despicable than that self-serving narrative depicts. The numerous atrocities committed by both sides have been well documented by human rights organizations within Israel such as B'tselem (
http://www.btselem.org/English/index.asp) and by the United Nations. (of course as an IDF agent correctly pointed out to an American Jewish friend of mine who was working as a human rights observer during the destruction of Jenin, the actions of the US in Iraq tend to make Israel's actions pale in comparison)

Referring to all Palestinians as terrorist scum has eerie historical precedents (the North American genocide of indigenous peoples and the Nazi regime to name a few), and should cause anyone to seriously think about the decency of those who would say such things.

True dat homie

hey whats the big deal they are only muslims

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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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I am atheist because I am intelligent enough to understand that all religion is a lie. There is no God and if there was, he/she wouldn't be a dick as depicted in the bible. Religion is mass conspiracy against the people to gain control over the masses. It was created by ancient civilizations to explain all the weird shit we couldn't understand or explain. Religion evolved into what it is today and has caused nothing but destruction and war. Islam is just the worst of it, invented by a homicidal, pedophilic, terrorist. I could name many other "religions" that are just money scams and evil organizations, like the Catholic Church (who supported the Nazis in WWII) and Scientology (probably the largest money scam in U.S. history).

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Ok, fair enough answer. You either see the whole thing as shit - or you accept all reglions.
However, stating that the area was "infected" by Muslims (paraphrased) is akin to stating that Israel is "infected" by Jews or Judaism, is it not? Or have you chosen to side with one conspiracy over another?

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I don't mind if someone wants to believe in God. That is your choice, you're completely wrong, but it's your choice. But when you take your beliefs and force them on people, I hate you for it. I keep saying this, Islam was founded on genocide and terrorism. There is nothing peaceful about it. The Qur'an repeatedly states to kill those that don't follow Islam. Spread it to everyone and convert or die. Judaism on the other hand was founded peacefully and does not promote mass murder. The Jews are a peaceful people and have always been the target of eradication. They don't force their views on anyone. Muslims though, force their views on everyone. They still do it today.

To explain my use of the term "infect", Islam is like no other religion.

The sole purpose of Islam is to infect and destroy. That's how it's been since it's beginning. They spread from place to place and force Islam on everyone. Europe has a massive Muslim population now. They have all been moving over there, flooding the UK, France, pretty much all of western and southern Europe. They riot (France a few years ago) and force the governments of said nations, such as the UK, to enact Sharia Law (Muslim Law). They force the construction of mosques and neighborhoods and just keep rioting, protesting and demanding more. Look at how many of them have entered Europe lately. It's an invasion. In about 15 years, Europe will be under Islamic control. Russia is flooded with them. We cannot allow Islam to take over the free world. It is a terrorist cult and it's spreading. I view Islam as a virus or cancer. Now they're in Canada. They are subverting our countries into becoming Islamic states. This is why I hate them. I refuse to live under Sharia Law. I hate terrorists and Islam is terrorism. It has to stop.

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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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I am atheist because I am intelligent enough to understand that all religion is a lie. There is no God and if there was, he/she wouldn't be a dick as depicted in the bible. Religion is mass conspiracy against the people to gain control over the masses. It was created by ancient civilizations to explain all the weird shit we couldn't understand or explain. Religion evolved into what it is today and has caused nothing but destruction and war. Islam is just the worst of it, invented by a homicidal, pedophilic, terrorist. I could name many other "religions" that are just money scams and evil organizations, like the Catholic Church (who supported the Nazis in WWII) and Scientology (probably the largest money scam in U.S. history).

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Ok, fair enough answer. You either see the whole thing as shit - or you accept all reglions.
However, stating that the area was "infected" by Muslims (paraphrased) is akin to stating that Israel is "infected" by Jews or Judaism, is it not? Or have you chosen to side with one conspiracy over another?

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I don't mind if someone wants to believe in God. That is your choice, you're completely wrong, but it's your choice. But when you take your beliefs and force them on people, I hate you for it. I keep saying this, Islam was founded on genocide and terrorism. There is nothing peaceful about it. The Qur'an repeatedly states to kill those that don't follow Islam. Spread it to everyone and convert or die. Judaism on the other hand was founded peacefully and does not promote mass murder. The Jews are a peaceful people and have always been the target of eradication. They don't force their views on anyone. Muslims though, force their views on everyone. They still do it today.

The sole purpose of Islam is to infect and destroy. They spread from place to place and force Islam on everyone. Europe has a massive Muslim population now. They have all been moving over there, flooding the UK, France, pretty much all of western and southern Europe. They riot (France a few years ago) and force the governments of said nations, such as the UK, to enact Sharia Law (Muslim Law). They force the construction of mosques and neighborhoods and just keep rioting, protesting and demanding more. Look at how many of them have entered Europe lately. It's an invasion. In about 15 years, Europe will be under Islamic control. Russia is flooded with them. We cannot allow Islam to take over the free world. It is a terrorist cult and it's spreading. I view Islam as a virus or cancer. Now they're in Canada. They are subverting our countries into becoming Islamic states. This is why I hate them. I refuse to live under Sharia Law. I hate terrorists and Islam is terrorism. It has to stop.

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I could not find a nice way to say this so. You need to go back to school Take a religion class for all I care. You have no Moral beliefs your arguements sound like you think that (you[kaiti] are right and we the people who justify our arguements are wrong.)
your atheist thats fine,you are given that right as a human being(American) to choose your religion. Some poeple DO NOT let me repeat myself DO NOT have the right to choose their religion many ARAB countries do not have our rights. So have you ever taken that into consideration? On a personal note your too involved on tellng people what is right and wrong based on your beliefs.

Your saying there isnt a god,Islam is wrong follow me...basically, I just want to point out what you hate is what your doing.

how about we remind ourselfs how terrorism started in that region?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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how about we remind ourselfs how terrorism started in that region?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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disagree on thats when it started. there have been terrorist for thousands of years.

From Kaitis comments...Im guessing she thinks anyone who thinks Islam is a GOOD religion is a terrorist...I think the religion is Great for those who actually go by the book and not these radicalist fuckfaces. O shit am I a terrorist?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam

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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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I am atheist because I am intelligent enough to understand that all religion is a lie. There is no God and if there was, he/she wouldn't be a dick as depicted in the bible. Religion is mass conspiracy against the people to gain control over the masses. It was created by ancient civilizations to explain all the weird shit we couldn't understand or explain. Religion evolved into what it is today and has caused nothing but destruction and war. Islam is just the worst of it, invented by a homicidal, pedophilic, terrorist. I could name many other "religions" that are just money scams and evil organizations, like the Catholic Church (who supported the Nazis in WWII) and Scientology (probably the largest money scam in U.S. history).

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Ok, fair enough answer. You either see the whole thing as shit - or you accept all reglions.
However, stating that the area was "infected" by Muslims (paraphrased) is akin to stating that Israel is "infected" by Jews or Judaism, is it not? Or have you chosen to side with one conspiracy over another?

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I don't mind if someone wants to believe in God. That is your choice, you're completely wrong, but it's your choice. But when you take your beliefs and force them on people, I hate you for it. I keep saying this, Islam was founded on genocide and terrorism. There is nothing peaceful about it. The Qur'an repeatedly states to kill those that don't follow Islam. Spread it to everyone and convert or die. Judaism on the other hand was founded peacefully and does not promote mass murder. The Jews are a peaceful people and have always been the target of eradication. They don't force their views on anyone. Muslims though, force their views on everyone. They still do it today.

Islam is like no other religion.

The sole purpose of Islam is to infect and destroy. That's how it's been since it's beginning. They spread from place to place and force Islam on everyone. Europe has a massive Muslim population now. They have all been moving over there, flooding the UK, France, pretty much all of western and southern Europe. They riot (France a few years ago) and force the governments of said nations, such as the UK, to enact Sharia Law (Muslim Law). They force the construction of mosques and neighborhoods and just keep rioting, protesting and demanding more. Look at how many of them have entered Europe lately. It's an invasion. In about 15 years, Europe will be under Islamic control. Russia is flooded with them. We cannot allow Islam to take over the free world. It is a terrorist cult and it's spreading. I view Islam as a virus or cancer. Now they're in Canada. They are subverting our countries into becoming Islamic states. This is why I hate them. I refuse to live under Sharia Law. I hate terrorists and Islam is terrorism. It has to stop.

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Your so so wrong in so many places it's unbelievable.
You need to stop reading wherever you are getting this nonsense and read some real papers or books.
It's just too much to respond to ...
If Islam is a virus - then Christianity is another one. Judaism while it doesn't spread like the other religions was hardly founded on peace and love - read the Old Testement. Islam does not state to kill those who don't believe in their religion. Their are zealots in all regions who have picked up and twisted the religion to their own means - but most Muslims's do not want Sharia law either. Have you ever visited a Muslim country? Met and seriously talked with a Muslim person?

I'm no fan of religion but your hatred, ignorance and blind ire is based on rubbish and in my eyes, your no different from those bigots and zealots in Hamas or other terrorist organisations as you condone the violence.

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I could not find a nice way to say this so. You need to go back to school Take a religion class for all I care. You have no Moral beliefs your arguements sound like you think that (you[kaiti] are right and we the people who justify our arguements are wrong.)
your atheist thats fine,you are given that right as a human being(American) to choose your religion. Some poeple DO NOT let me repeat myself DO NOT have the right to choose their religion many ARAB countries do not have our rights. So have you ever taken that into consideration? On a personal note your too involved on tellng people what is right and wrong based on your beliefs.

Your saying there isnt a god,Islam is wrong follow me...basically, I just want to point out what you hate is what your doing.

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Of course they don't have rights. They follow Islam.

I'm committing acts of terrorism and genocide? I'm holding a gun to your head telling you to believe or die? No.

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I could not find a nice way to say this so. You need to go back to school Take a religion class for all I care. You have no Moral beliefs your arguements sound like you think that (you[kaiti] are right and we the people who justify our arguements are wrong.)
your atheist thats fine,you are given that right as a human being(American) to choose your religion. Some poeple DO NOT let me repeat myself DO NOT have the right to choose their religion many ARAB countries do not have our rights. So have you ever taken that into consideration? On a personal note your too involved on tellng people what is right and wrong based on your beliefs.

Your saying there isnt a god,Islam is wrong follow me...basically, I just want to point out what you hate is what your doing.

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Of course they don't have rights. They follow Islam.

I'm committing acts of terrorism and genocide? I'm holding a gun to your head telling you to believe or die? No.

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Admins im sorry she needs this......
What a FUCKING idiot. :lol:
your bigotry lowered my IQ.
Your racist you need to listen to what were telling you.....

If god chooses me to die then I die. Everything happens for a reason Kaiti im christian if that offends you then leave I have the god given right to talk about my religion and my beliefs openly. you on the other hand believe in nothing, but Racism.....

You are all fools.



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Some people WILL NOT listen, even inthe face of hard evidence

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It called being a hardcore arrogant person....Some people need help to admit their arrogance.

I'm done arguing. I'm sure there are good Muslims in the world but I will never respect Islam. It was founded on terrorism and genocide and will always be evil in my eyes.

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I'm done arguing. I'm sure there are good Muslims in the world but I will never respect Islam. It was founded on terrorism and genocide and will always be evil in my eyes.

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:banghead :trolls

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It called being a hardcore arrogant person....Some people need help to admit their arrogance.

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It called being a hardcore arrogant person....Some people need help to admit their arrogance.

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Egangster Phobun dont add unintelligent things makes yourself look like a douchebag.

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Some people WILL NOT listen, even inthe face of hard evidence

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It called being a hardcore arrogant person....Some people need help to admit their arrogance.

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I'm sure you'll get results.

Last from me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXdle...e=channel_page

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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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I am atheist because I am intelligent enough to understand that all religion is a lie. There is no God and if there was, he/she wouldn't be a dick as depicted in the bible. Religion is mass conspiracy against the people to gain control over the masses. It was created by ancient civilizations to explain all the weird shit we couldn't understand or explain. Religion evolved into what it is today and has caused nothing but destruction and war. Islam is just the worst of it, invented by a homicidal, pedophilic, terrorist. I could name many other "religions" that are just money scams and evil organizations, like the Catholic Church (who supported the Nazis in WWII) and Scientology (probably the largest money scam in U.S. history).

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Ehmm, sorry to disapoint you but, nop, you are not intelligent enough to understand religion... apparently you are not well informed either about the things that you say.

You are the reason the world hates the USA.... people like you... that make statements like that, without taking a minute to realize that what you say is a bunch of bullcrap.... if you don't know what you are talking about, please do all of us a favor and SHUT UP... then get informed (as in real information), read, get some descent education... and then, maybe just maybe you can open your mouth and say something worth.

Everyone is entitled their own opinion... and you are entitled yours too, as long as you know what the hell you're saying... and as long as you don't use that opinion as an excuse to insult other people.

In the end, the only one looking like an ignorant is you.

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I'm done arguing. I'm sure there are good Muslims in the world but I will never respect Islam. It was founded on terrorism and genocide and will always be evil in my eyes.

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One could say the same thing about the United States for that matter, being founded on terrorism and genocide. But it would be an utter absurdity to suggest that all Americans are evil.

There are millions of Palestinians, and not all of them are Muslims, and for years there was a strong secular resistance to the Israeli occupation, which incidentally was purposefully destroyed. If one were prone to digging into recent activities on behalf of the state of Israel it would be reasonable to assume that the secular Palestinian resistance was crushed so that Hamas and other Islamist factions would rise to power, and thus provide easy justifications for further land grabs and demolition of Palestinian infrastructure.

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Is this a Bushism?

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What a surprise.

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What a surprise.

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Norad just happened to stand down for an hour and watch theplane smack into the Pentagon?? What a surprise. You see, its all about rallying the masses for war; always has been

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Norad just happened to stand down for an hour and watch theplane smack into the Pentagon?? What a surprise. You see, its all about rallying the masses for war; always has been

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Of course...you're right. That's the only possible explanation. I don't know why I didn't see that before. Glad you cleared that up. :roll:

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Some of the responses on here disgust me. The Hamas are a bunch of animals using civilians as cover who ALLOW it to occur, then you get angry with Israel for defending itself? It's ridiculous. Try talking to someone who is actually in the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) and learning about what the Palestinians actually do that is NOT reported in our media, you may have a different view after that.

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Try talking to some of the British forces when the IRA was killing women and children (and soldiers) - and funds were being collected for the IRA on the streets of NYC.

Try talking to the German occupying army when the French Resistance were killing and bombing their soldiers.

Try talking to a Vietnam vet when the Vietcong were killing their friends.

I'm not making direct comparisons between these conflicts but my point is, obviously the IDF has a skewered view - and the Palestinians a different one. Yet many innocents are being caught in the middle and the strikes that Israel have taken seem to be taking down more innocents, than legitimate targets.
A little restraint.

Arnie, it's got ZERO to do with being leftist - that's a pathetic and sad comment for people who don't want to see innocent civilians caught in the crossfire of any war. Absolutely pathetic and shows your ignorance.

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Don't make me out to be the bad guy son, . I read the post you made three down on the first page . I find it cringeworthy that after your inital polarising comment , you then make that statement above too me.Doesn't show you in a good light at all.

And it is relevant mentioning the left. The left certainly in the UK have the Pallys as some kind of cause celebre which I find 'ignorant' and 'pathetic'. You only have to read some of the other threads in the Politics section on this forum to see the majority of posters are of the left wing persuasion.Those who are of the centre to right wing are shouted down and called stupid and ignorant on a regular basis. I would have thought it would be welcomed to have people of different viewpoints posting there but sadly as is common with those of left or fascist beliefs the people of your ilk just cannot tolerate it mentally.

Speaking of the Politics and religion section why isn't this load of drivvel in there? Don't seem much mention of arses and penis's.

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Israel is doing this now because they won't be able to in less than 3 weeks. Barack will not allow the Middle East to head down this path of destruction.

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you are kidding right? they have been killing each other for a lot longer than the USA has even been around. :roll:

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how about we remind ourselfs how terrorism started in that region?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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disagree on thats when it started. there have been terrorist for thousands of years.

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iirc it was at the time the deadliest terrorist attack in history and certainly set the tone for the future of that region
either way the point is both sides are terrorists one fighting with modern military equipment funded by us tax dollars and the other side fighting with sticks and stones

Fuck Religion. This shit is all over holy land, God, and who's version is better. Two assholes in a backlot arguing over something stupid and one of them gets killed. Same shit, different back lot.

It made me sick to see those little kids laying there dead or wounded. All for what? Because his god is better that yours? Fuck you all. I'm so fed up with these pre-historic asshole countries continuing to live like this, and whats worse, I'm totally sick of the US taking sides. I don't care if Hamas is in one Town and it makes us feel justified to fight against them. If we want Hamas gone, we can go in there with Intel and ground troops, smart bombs and real targets and do it ourselves. Lets get the fuck out of Iraq already and go do something worthwhile overthere.

Or better yet, bring our boys the fuck home and let those assholes deal with themselves. I'm going to mirror a bit of what Danielle said early in this thread. I feel sick to be a human being when stuff like this comes to light. And being an american, I'm tired of the government sending aid to people and places that have no merit or bearing on how we as americans need to live.

Send aid to africa and other regions where people are starving and cannot help themselves. Go fight warlords who are practicing genocide on a daily basis. Do something real, take back peace for those who desire it, who just want to live and raise their families without fear.

But for those who fight with religion in their hearts and god on their shoulder, I say let them play by themselves. They'll all either kill each other off, or maybe, just maybe, when enough of their babies have died, and the craziest of their zealots have been killed, reason, NOT religion, will take over. One never knows, do one . . .

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Originally Posted by flabeeboi

that video says from 2005! why is everyone blaming israel.

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It's already been pointed out that the original deaths in the opening video, were caused by the stupidity of Hamas. Not Israel. I didn't notice it at first either, because I skimmed through the video real quick. praetor seemed to present it as an Israeli attack. (Probably by mistake) That's what's causing a lot of confusion in this thread.

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Question 911

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What a surprise.

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Norad just happened to stand down for an hour and watch theplane smack into the Pentagon?? What a surprise. You see, its all about rallying the masses for war; always has been

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Of course...you're right. That's the only possible explanation. I don't know why I didn't see that before. Glad you cleared that up. :roll:

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LMAO at a certain truther and conspiracy wingnut who spews ridiculous paranoid theories and links in each and every thread about current events... :roll:

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how about we remind ourselfs how terrorism started in that region?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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disagree on thats when it started. there have been terrorist for thousands of years.

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iirc it was at the time the deadliest terrorist attack in history and certainly set the tone for the future of that region
either way the point is both sides are terrorists one fighting with modern military equipment funded by us tax dollars and the other side fighting with sticks and stones

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Ok now I understand why you posted :lol:

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Originally Posted by needsum

Fuck Religion. This shit is all over holy land, God, and who's version is better. Two assholes in a backlot arguing over something stupid and one of them gets killed. Same shit, different back lot.

It made me sick to see those little kids laying there dead or wounded. All for what? Because his god is better that yours? Fuck you all. I'm so fed up with these pre-historic asshole countries continuing to live like this, and whats worse, I'm totally sick of the US taking sides. I don't care if Hamas is in one Town and it makes us feel justified to fight against them. If we want Hamas gone, we can go in there with Intel and ground troops, smart bombs and real targets and do it ourselves. Lets get the fuck out of Iraq already and go do something worthwhile overthere.

Or better yet, bring our boys the fuck home and let those assholes deal with themselves. I'm going to mirror a bit of what Danielle said early in this thread. I feel sick to be a human being when stuff like this comes to light. And being an american, I'm tired of the government sending aid to people and places that have no merit or bearing on how we as americans need to live.

Send aid to africa and other regions where people are starving and cannot help themselves. Go fight warlords who are practicing genocide on a daily basis. Do something real, take back peace for those who desire it, who just want to live and raise their families without fear.

But for those who fight with religion in their hearts and god on their shoulder, I say let them play by themselves. They'll all either kill each other off, or maybe, just maybe, when enough of their babies have died, and the craziest of their zealots have been killed, reason, NOT religion, will take over. One never knows, do one . . .

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WOW you sir need to read up more you sound alot like Kaiti....They have been fighting over LAND for thousands of years. If you think about it, The british government can be to blame.I only say this because when they took the land from the TURKS in 1917 its when the conflict over LAND started between these indivuals.