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Does anyone else feel that mccain has stolen some of the thunder from obama after his latest vp move.I mean his vp is a woman who they say is a new face and fighter and obama's guy is good but he has some baggage.One thing i can't stop thinking about is the clinton supporters who will have no problem voting for mccain now.I see alot of people wishing that hillary was the nominee now.
lol, Legend did you read anything I just typed? just curiousQuote:
Originally Posted by Legend
I just wanna say I think it's hilarious that CNN had a guy on from one of the Alaskan news papers who at the end of the interview said "Palin is less qualified than Dan Quayle"
again.............. priceless
Shock tactics are nice and all (and so very obvious), but as an Obama supporter, I can't wait to see the Republican convention and what they have to say. And I hate to marginalize any woman, but at McCain's age he probably just wanted a pretty face to look at in White House meetings, haha.
I wonder how long until we see political cartoons of her and McCain in the oval office screwing...
But even if he does that, won't he lose a lot of votes from diehard right wingers who would never, ever vote for a woman on the ticket?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
-Tara
tomorrow morning and at it's latest Sunday's NY Times, political cartoonist are probably at art shops right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Yes i did and you stating you were a republican is a big WTF to me but yeah I read it and thought you could be right no worries but then i watched to different new channels all praise mccain for his vp choice and state he could steal Hillary's voters and that's when the doubts played in.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
Oh, I guess I already said this in a previous statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tara Emory
- but responding to someone who thought it was a "ridiculous thing to say"..
But come on- remember when Hillary was running and they gave her so much shit in the press about her crying and showing emotion. There was (and mind you, in the more right wing circles) quite a lot of people equating being female and emotional = not being tough enough for the job. I'd have to say there are a certain amount of voters who might feel that way too.
-Tara
tara
i think you have a misconception about "die hard" right wingers or conservatives.
these people have no problem in supporting a female for office. the left wingers would like for you to believe that all righties are homophobic, racist, anti-woman but that's a joke.
most of my friends who i consider to be very conservative welcome palin to the ticket and are more excited about her than mccain. there are many super qualified conservative men and women who are african american, hispanic, asian, etc.
in fact, many of my conservative idols are female, asian, black, latino or some combination. for example, Walter Williams, michelle malkin, thomas sowell, condi rice, jc watts (okla congressman)
ps: i believe people and the press gave hillary shit about crying because she came across as being phony-baloney. i dont think it really had much to do about her being a woman. It was the same old clinton crap. Remember that time when bill was caught by the camera laughing and joking during ron brown's funeraL? and then in a microsecond he switched on the tears because he saw the camera? Well, that's what people thought hillary was doing.
yeah like, right wingers would much rather see a god fearing, pro-life white mother of 5 in office than an american hating, ultra socialist muslim. You'd need like, a gay dude that'd been married in SF on the ticket to lose conservative votes to obama.
Talk about sexist...do you think this individual would have been picked for this job if she wasn't a woman? I'm reading now that Hillary supporters say it's patronizing and a very cynical move by McCain and Rove.
You have to see this interview...
http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/cnbc-palin.jpg
Sarah Palin, July 2008: I don’t even know what the Vice President does
And even if being VP were a job without any responsibility, being President is a job with a helluva lot of responsibility, and Sarah Palin just isn't qualified. Haven't we had enough of unqualified governors as President after 8 years of Texas Governor George W. Bush?
Hillary is now going to work twice as hard to persuade her followers to vote for Obama, because she's not going to want to be majority leader of the senate while Sarah Palin is the president of the Senate (the VP's other role) and a potential incumbent candidate for President in 4 or 8 years. You can bet that she still wants to be the first woman President.
well if hillary wants to be president in 2012 then dont you think she'll vote for mccain?
and if sarah palin isnt qualified then why is obama qualified. she's held more public offices than he has. she's actually done things too.
what in the hell has obama actually done or accomplished for his constituents?
the only thing i can see is that he's a good public speaker and organizer.
if you're going to have someone who inexperienced, i'd rather that person be in the vp position instead of the president. i actually think the whole experience thing has been overblown on both sides. i'm not voting for obama because of his lack of experience, i'm not voting for obama because i don't like his policies and views. I think he's probably an ok guy and i admire his tenacity and bravado - i just disagree with him.
and if you think bush's governor's experience disqualifies him, then i guess old bubba clinton's governor's experience disqualified him too.
This was a very gutsy and ballsy pick for McCain.....something the McCain of 2000 and before would have done.
I like the pick actually and this chick is quite the looker in my opinion.
wow, solitary we actually agree on sumthing.
palin is sharp. I think she will do very well against biden in the upcoming debates. she's a great debater and biden's a hot head who can speak without thinking.
palin's a real outsider and not your typical inside the beltway candidate. she's not an oil insider as some have suggested, in fact, she's gone toe to toe with the oil companies. youall should do a bit of research on her.
yeah, she's pro-life and for the right to bear arms, but that's not a big surprise. but she's certainly closer to the common person than any of the other candidates. husband works two jobs, etc... certainly not your typ stereotype republican, eh?
by the way, doesn't it bother anyone that NONE of the democrats are able to put ANY limits on abortion at ALL? not even those grisly partial birth abortions? jeeze, can we at least agree on that!
She has problems though.
She is affiliated with that crook TED STEVENS the republican senator who was just indicted.
Plus she has her own little investigation going on about her.
I must say she seems to be a ballsy chick and quite the looker.
Oh my ...get into that last sentence.
I am officially a chaser!
that 27%of hillary voters who will never vote for obama ???do you think this group is women or disenfranchised joe sixpacks????just curious...
Yes but Obama has run a major campaign on a national level, which qualifies as managerial experience. Do you really think 18 million voters are going to flock to her just because she's a woman? Oh and she called HRC a whiner, because she was complaining about sexism in the media. It was stupid to praise HRC after she's on record making a stupid statement like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ottorocket
Helluva smart move in my opinion.
Helluva hot 44 year old MILF too I must say!
Wrong. Unlike Palin, Obama was nominated because he won the primaries. Palin was appointed. Palin's 2 years as a small state Governor doesn't come close to Obama's national experience at running the most efficient and disciplined campaign in US history. Many former presidents have said that the hardest part of the job is campaigning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beagle
Nor is Obama qualified to be president.
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Originally Posted by Buzz
:claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :clapsQuote:
Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
Lets see what the Obama's net worth is when he is 72.Quote:
Originally Posted by ARMANIXXX
Jack Cafferty: McCain VP mistake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZClVX0xlqU
That's awesome :lol:
Here we go again. Both are qualified to be president. Requirements: An age of 35, resident of the US for 14 years and a natural born citizen.Quote:
Originally Posted by JanetElise
Here is a nice little video to watch.
Keep in mind this is not Fox News.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EfUmrB...eature=related
I'm so sick of hearing how Obama is not qualified for the job. Anyone who can read can tell, that he is more than qualified for job:
Undergraduate
Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA
Undergraduate, 1981-1983
Columbia University
B.A. Political Science with specialization in international relations
Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament
Graduate
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review
Organizing
1983-1988 Director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland on Chicago's South Side.
1992 Led Chicago's Project Vote! push. This effort resulted in a record number of voter registrations, over 600,000 in Chicago.
Teaching
1993-2004 Visiting Law and Government Fellow, then Senior Lecturer, in Constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.
Law Practice
1993-2002 Worked as an associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.
Illinois Senate 1996-2004
chairman, Health and Human Services Committee
United States Senate 2004-present
Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
Thank You! These people seem to forget that the presidency is an ELECTED POSITION.Quote:
Originally Posted by braveman
Cool! People are quoting me on Hungangels!!!
Here is another video for your consideration....
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=112KQfOuOcc
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Originally Posted by fitz207
You have got to be kidding?Quote:
Originally Posted by JanetElise
No, it isn't Fox "News". Just another little subjective, highly partisan right-wing kook who fits the Fox News lemming demographic.
Sure but what has he done for you lately?
Paula Abdul
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z0h_c9eH-8
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Originally Posted by fitz207
The man should have had his shit together, but he couldn't name
one accomplishment the man has made while in office.
I implore you to go out in the world and ask anyone who has voted for him just why they did and what accomplishments he has made while in office. The reactions you will get are somewhat frightening.
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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me
i personally identify with the east coast liberal elite label but dont forget that rep. or dem. you must be a rich elitist to even be considered a viable candidate for any office. there has never been a broke uneducated person to hold a major office. even marion barry has a masters degree in chemistry and more than one home.Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaGrande
No problem. I am not flattered.
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Originally Posted by braveman
What were Dubya's accomplishments before he took office? Better yet, what have been Bush's accomplishments since then? Yeah, let's continue to repeat the last eight years and drive this country down even further into oblivion.Quote:
Originally Posted by JanetElise
... The same questions about experience were raised against JFK.
Don't make me start referring to Obama as Hussein. LOL
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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me
Let me guess, Janet? Like Otto, you're an objective "Independent"?
Yeah, sure you are.
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Originally Posted by JanetElise
And this will accomplish ... ???
Personally Realgirls4me I don't give two squirts of piss about who is president. These are just my opinons on the point at hand.
I am not racist but I know why a LOT of people voted for him.
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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me
Palin's Bio:
NAME: Sarah Heath Palin.
AGE-BIRTH DATE-LOCATION: 44; born Feb. 11, 1964; Sandpoint, Idaho.
EXPERIENCE: Alaska governor since December 2006; unsuccessful run for Republican nomination for lieutenant governor in 2002; chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, 2003-2004; served two terms as Wasilla mayor and two terms on city council.
EDUCATION: Graduated University of Idaho, 1987, journalism.
FAMILY: Husband, Todd; five children.
BUSINESS: Worked as sports reporter for two Anchorage television stations; owned with her husband a snowmobile, watercraft, ATV business from 1994-97. Husband is a North Slope oil field worker.
No experience at the federal level, 0 foreign policy experience. Compare her "accomplishments". Obama might not have all the experience in the world. But it's a lot more than Palin's
Nothing. Just a little joke.
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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me