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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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filghy2
You are missing the point. I'm happy for Grooby to set the rules as long as they are clearly stated and applied consistently. I just don't think we have that in this instance.
Rules change. I don't think they've been applied incorrectly in this instance and no rules cover everything. I'll edit the existing ones.
BTW - this was in the existing rules if you take a look:
As a company which has to constantly fight content piracy, we recognise that there is a need for some content to be shown on platforms like this, but if it becomes a destination for spank material only, then it's purpose becomes more blurry as it takes potential sales away from those whose content is being shown. Most members are able to respect those guidelines, and show content to display their likes, or to make their point without it becoming abusive. A few members abuse this, and it ends up with complete threads being deleted.
So was this, which applies to all those worms we've never heard from, until their spank bank was elimated:
If you never buy porn but rely on this site and other free sites for your spank material, then you're leech and worthless here. Your opinion is meaningless, you have no rights or say in anything
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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GroobySteven
You can still post porn images. What we're not going to have is mega-threads where some people just come to post daily, and use it as their porn collection. If something is pertinent and relevant, then go for it.
Your comments on the 'woke' topics are way of. They've always been posted here, just lost amongst the drivel. This forum first and foremost was a place that people came to discuss with likeminded individuals.
If there is a post you don't like the subject of, don't click it.
I'll take your word for it that they've always been here and got lost amongst the other stuff.
I like the forum, and though I don't post unless it is something I feel is pertinent or worthwhile I do visit on a weekly basis on average and look through threads other than the image threads.
The point I've been trying to make is that if this place turns into something where the " woke/social justice " stuff are the dominant topics of discussion a lot of people will leave. Even though some of us are supportive of those issues we don't want to be confronted by it at every turn.
In other words, if I visit 5 times in a row and each of those visits shows me that the front page of the forum consists not of image threads, but of threads that are related to social issues, I'll eventually stop visiting. I am sure there are others that feel the same way.
It is what it is though..Forums change over the years, I just never thought I'd see these types of changes here.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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mtbazz
The point I've been trying to make is that if this place turns into something where the " woke/social justice " stuff are the dominant topics of discussion a lot of people will leave. Even though some of us are supportive of those issues we don't want to be confronted by it at every turn.
I don't think anyone wants that, I certainly don't - and posters should read the temperature of the room before simply posting links to any trans news item - but just because it's news doesn't tar it with the negative connoctations you seem to impart with 'woke' and 'social justice'. Some wider understanding of trans girls and what they go through is as important as any photos here.
Leave or don't.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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Laphroaig
Over a 100 posts, really?
My post count number hasn't changed since all the threads have been deleted and I must have had a few hundred in amongst them. Nor did it change when the escorting section was removed, which probably accounted for over half of my posts on here. Your post count reads 5, methinks you're telling porkies...
I'm not backing the attitude of the member to whom you were replying but since the thread deletions my post count has come down from circa 700 to just over 200
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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ceejay100
I'm not backing the attitude of the member to whom you were replying but since the thread deletions my post count has come down from circa 700 to just over 200
That should be an indicator of the content of your postings then.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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GroobySteven
Rules change. I don't think they've been applied incorrectly in this instance and no rules cover everything. I'll edit the existing ones.
My point is that you don't appear to have applied the rules as stated at the time. Previously the limit was 12 images per set - now it's 1-2. It would have been better to announce the new rules and then enforce them from that time.
I'm still struggling to see why those 80 or so threads were deleted and not others. For instance, somebody mentioned that a post-op thread was deleted, which hardly sounds like the sort that would have been full of stolen images. Yet there are still some threads with hundreds of pages of images that weren't deleted.
You said that this action was prompted by seeing two pages of only image updates. Isn't the real question why there were no posts on anything else? I think the real problem is not that there's been more porn, but that the other stuff has dried up. For whatever reason, the people who were more likely to post comments have been steadily drifting away. We may end up with a dead forum with not much porn but not much other stuff either.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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Originally Posted by
mtbazz
The point I've been trying to make is that if this place turns into something where the " woke/social justice " stuff are the dominant topics of discussion a lot of people will leave. Even though some of us are supportive of those issues we don't want to be confronted by it at every turn.
Surely it's a simple matter to ignore threads that don't interest you. It's largely just one member who's taken it upon himself to post links that rarely attract any discussion. I can never understand why so many people complain about threads that they have chosen to open and read.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
I can understand why the deletion, and agree with it quite easily.
On the other hand, I've seen the behavior of the owner of this site in this topic, and that's something I cannot agree with. The world is full of bad behavior, bad people, hate and ... well you get the idea. Why the need to add more bad stuff in it, really ? Especially on a forum whose purpose is said (by the same dude, no less) to share thoughts and ideas on a topic as delicate as transgenderism.
If anything, it only convinced me that you can't really have a decent discussion here without taking the risk of being butchered by someone for no good reason.
bye.
and yes, you can also comment about how i only have 3 posts and that I did not make a great contribution. It will only further prove my point.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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pmloik
I can understand why the deletion, and agree with it quite easily.
On the other hand, I've seen the behavior of the owner of this site in this topic, and that's something I cannot agree with. The world is full of bad behavior, bad people, hate and ... well you get the idea. Why the need to add more bad stuff in it, really ? Especially on a forum whose purpose is said (by the same dude, no less) to share thoughts and ideas on a topic as delicate as transgenderism.
If anything, it only convinced me that you can't really have a decent discussion here without taking the risk of being butchered by someone for no good reason.
bye.
and yes, you can also comment about how i only have 3 posts and that I did not make a great contribution. It will only further prove my point.
Aww. Bless.
There is no hate here but I'm not going to not answer comments truthfully. Same as this one. 3 posts, point taken. Bye Mary.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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Originally Posted by
filghy2
My point is that you don't appear to have applied the rules as stated at the time. Previously the limit was 12 images per set - now it's 1-2. It would have been better to announce the new rules and then enforce them from that time.
I'm still struggling to see why those 80 or so threads were deleted and not others. For instance, somebody mentioned that a post-op thread was deleted, which hardly sounds like the sort that would have been full of stolen images. Yet there are still some threads with hundreds of pages of images that weren't deleted.
You said that this action was prompted by seeing two pages of only image updates. Isn't the real question why there were no posts on anything else? I think the real problem is not that there's been more porn, but that the other stuff has dried up. For whatever reason, the people who were more likely to post comments have been steadily drifting away. We may end up with a dead forum with not much porn but not much other stuff either.
Tell you what, you can buy this forum off me and then you can run it with your rules. You can even form a committee to discuss the changes or any rules before you make them. Or not.
It's done. It's what it is. I've stated my reasons. Like them or don't.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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MrFanti
That should be an indicator of the content of your postings then.
You've missed the point entirely. Laphroaig was suggesting to another member that the deletion of the threads would have no difference to that member's post count. I merely stated that the deletions had altered my count. There was no suggestion whatsoever that I was complaining about the deletions
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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GroobySteven
Tell you what, you can buy this forum off me and then you can run it with your rules. You can even form a committee to discuss the changes or any rules before you make them. Or not.
It's done. It's what it is. I've stated my reasons. Like them or don't.
It's good that you welcome accountability and respect other people's right to disagree
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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filghy2
It's good that you welcome accountability and respect other people's right to disagree
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You're welcome.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
Don't really understand, but am drawn back by this,been away for years just looking, or not at pages of irrelevant content over and over again...Got absolutely numbed by it.Anyway a new Day.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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Originally Posted by
filghy2
My point is that you don't appear to have applied the rules as stated at the time. Previously the limit was 12 images per set - now it's 1-2. It would have been better to announce the new rules and then enforce them from that time.
I'm still struggling to see why those 80 or so threads were deleted and not others. For instance, somebody mentioned that a post-op thread was deleted, which hardly sounds like the sort that would have been full of stolen images. Yet there are still some threads with hundreds of pages of images that weren't deleted.
You said that this action was prompted by seeing two pages of only image updates. Isn't the real question why there were no posts on anything else? I think the real problem is not that there's been more porn, but that the other stuff has dried up. For whatever reason, the people who were more likely to post comments have been steadily drifting away. We may end up with a dead forum with not much porn but not much other stuff either.
High probability of this happening. I hope not but if no one is posting comments/discussions and suppressing the amount of porn posted(stolen or not) I doubt the forum will flourish. But I hope I'm wrong, this forum is pretty cool and a great place for people with trans interests whether it be porn or education.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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ceejay100
You've missed the point entirely. Laphroaig was suggesting to another member that the deletion of the threads would have no difference to that member's post count. I merely stated that the deletions had altered my count. There was no suggestion whatsoever that I was complaining about the deletions
Bottom line is that you can either accept the new rules or go.
It's crystal clear that Grooby isn't changing their stance here.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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HeWasNumber1
High probability of this happening. I hope not but if no one is posting comments/discussions and suppressing the amount of porn posted(stolen or not) I doubt the forum will flourish. But I hope I'm wrong, this forum is pretty cool and a great place for people with trans interests whether it be porn or education.
The forum has been in decline for a while. At some point it becomes self-fulfilling - people log on, see nothing much of interest, and don't come back or come less regularly. Ironically, this little controversy has generated more interest than anything I've seen for some time.
Some people will say that this is because the image threads crowded out other stuff, but I don't find that convincing. If people are concerned about this why don't they make more effort to post other stuff themselves?
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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MrFanti
Not sure why folks are arguing/discussing this.
It's a one way discussion.
I'll be the first to admit I've posted a TON of pictures here - but I've also added discussion and general information posts as well.
No one is paying a dime here......Grooby sets the rules, one is free to stay or go.
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MrFanti
There's your error - there is no "we" here.
It is Grooby - we take it or leave it.
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MrFanti
Bottom line is that you can either accept the new rules or go.
It's crystal clear that Grooby isn't changing their stance here.
I think we get your point. I know in the end he can do as he likes, but this doesn't mean we don't have a right to question it and ask for explanations. Contrary to your assertion, there is a "we" here. The membership has a legimate interest in this forum and how it is run.
I notice that some of your threads where you posted many images were deleted. I assume this was something you liked doing and you had no idea that you were doing anything wrong. Do you seriously have no opinion of your own on what was done?
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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filghy2
The forum has been in decline for a while.
ALL forums in this old school “bulletin board” format are in decline. I have a variety of interests, and the decline in popularity of online forums is evident no matter what the forum topic is. It’s great that this forum even exists, as it probably doesn’t make much of a profit for Grooby, if any. Can you name any other porn company that has an active online forum? I’m not aware of any.
If you want a place to host images (and see other peoples’ images) without the burden of topical discussions, it seems like Reddit is a good place to look. r/traps or r/transgonewild etc etc. Reddit is not very good for searching through archives of older material though. If you see a photo you like, download it. Keep your own archive.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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Luke Warm
It’s great that this forum even exists, as it probably doesn’t make much of a profit for Grooby, if any.
This was the response given earlier
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GroobySteven
This site is far from our bread and butter, it's barely even crumbs in 2022 the way the internet and adult business has changed - the cost of keeping it running dollar for dollar, means it's a loss. But it has it's uses in other ways - and it's returned what we paid for it 10x over in the noughties.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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Luke Warm
If you want a place to host images (and see other peoples’ images) without the burden of topical discussions, it seems like Reddit is a good place to look. r/traps or r/transgonewild etc etc. Reddit is not very good for searching through archives of older material though. If you see a photo you like, download it. Keep your own archive.
That's actually not my concern. I do already have a good archive of pics I've downloaded, and most of the stuff I can find elsewhere. For example, shemalestardb has a big (and legal) library of trans porn pics, although recently it seems to have less non-Grooby stuff.
The main added-value of this site to me is the girls who aren't shooting commercial porn, who I might not otherwise come across. I know people can still post 1-2 pics, so it remains to be seen how much this posting will be affected.
To be clear, I'm not objecting to the tightening of the posting rules so much as the unecessarily heavy-handed way it has been imposed.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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filghy2
I think we get your point. I know in the end he can do as he likes, but this doesn't mean we don't have a right to question it and ask for explanations. Contrary to your assertion, there is a "we" here. The membership has a legimate interest in this forum and how it is run.
I notice that some of your threads where you posted many images were deleted. I assume this was something you liked doing and you had no idea that you were doing anything wrong. Do you seriously have no opinion of your own on what was done?
You have the right to question and ask - you don't have any right to expect an answer.
I'm probably one of the few larger company owners who does respond and interact with our members on a daily basis. I'm also involved with the adult industry on a number of boards like Xbiz.net as well as checking in on here and http://groobyforum.com daily and answering anything pertinent.
In short, you have the right to ask what you want, but as an unpaying customer to this board, no other rights.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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Originally Posted by
Luke Warm
ALL forums in this old school “bulletin board” format are in decline. I have a variety of interests, and the decline in popularity of online forums is evident no matter what the forum topic is. It’s great that this forum even exists, as it probably doesn’t make much of a profit for Grooby, if any. Can you name any other porn company that has an active online forum? I’m not aware of any.
If you want a place to host images (and see other peoples’ images) without the burden of topical discussions, it seems like Reddit is a good place to look. r/traps or r/transgonewild etc etc. Reddit is not very good for searching through archives of older material though. If you see a photo you like, download it. Keep your own archive.
There used to be 100s of forums like this across the porn spectrum - they took over from where the newsgroups left off (remember them - they were the best and where we got started) - we owned a few more over that period, all of which were eventually redirected and swallowed by this one as intered wanted on them. With the advent of social media, these forums became less popular as people could get more instant feedback and riffing (and without the interference of an owner or moderator). There is still a place for forums like this, but in competition with Twitter which allows little moderation and plenty of porn (don't expect that to last forever) and Reddit, it's not competitive ... although that may come again.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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GroobySteven
You have the right to question and ask - you don't have any right to expect an answer.
That's okay. Sometimes the non-answers are as revealing as the answers.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
I don't understand why anyone could be upset by the Threads being deleted. It's all out there surely if you want .
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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filghy2
That's okay. Sometimes the non-answers are as revealing as the answers.
Sometimes folks think that it's not even worth their time and effort to provide an answer.
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
Speaking of threads to delete...
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Re: What's with All the Thread Deletions?
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Originally Posted by
GroobySteven
You have the right to question and ask - you don't have any right to expect an answer.
I'm probably one of the few larger company owners who does respond and interact with our members on a daily basis. I'm also involved with the adult industry on a number of boards like Xbiz.net as well as checking in on here and
http://groobyforum.com daily and answering anything pertinent.
In short, you have the right to ask what you want, but as an unpaying customer to this board, no other rights.
This is not nice or polite. If you interact with members, telling them out saying “since you don’t pay you don’t have rights” sounds quite annoying, to say the least.
