God's going to be so happy with us folks. So happy. I promise you. Ninety-grand to get DeVos confirmed - such a bargain. Such a bargain. Dems are such losers. Sad.
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God's going to be so happy with us folks. So happy. I promise you. Ninety-grand to get DeVos confirmed - such a bargain. Such a bargain. Dems are such losers. Sad.
Oh my Dog!!! You really have been "Trumped"! I guess anybody can get infected. Don't worry. Hang tight. I found my old Acid Cookbooks, & should have a new batch of "Liberal Pills" any day now. I'm coming to rescue ya Baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
You have to wonder. A week or so after the Government of the USA produced a document which could not correctly spell Attack, Attacker and Denmark, the Library of Congress was selling an Inauguration Poster of Donald Trump with another basic spelling mistake, apparently because Americans can't spell, don't know how to use a spell-check tool on their software, do not know how to proof-read a document, or just don't care. The poster has now been withdrawn.
For a country that has given us some of the finest literature in the English language, this is not comical- it is sloppy and disgraceful. But like I say, who cares?
Attachment 994533
Thats right!Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Those of you who recall the intensity with which Donald Trump attacked Hillary Clinton's creation of a private email server, threatening the security of the USA may wonder how it compares to a President holding an impromptu briefing on a security issue involving North Korea and the USA's Asian ally, in the middle of a crowded restaurant, with staff who may or may not have been vetted and members of the public who, even if they have paid $100,000 to be members of Mar-a-Lago Palace (decor -gold lead in the ceiling, gold sinks in the Ladies- by Saddam Hussein)- were nevertheless allowed to stand next to and photo and tweet themselves with the guy with the 'football' containing the codes for a nuclear strike. The mind boggles.
But here is the serious issue: the creation in the White House of the Strategic Initiatives Group [SIG] comprised of Trump, son-in-law Jared Kushner, Steven Bannon, and Stephen Miller. It is not clear if the Dirty Digger, Rupert Murdoch will also join though he is a regular caller on Trump by phone and was in the office when Trump was interviewed for the first time in January by two European journalists Michael Gove (reporting for Murdoch's paper The Times) and Kai Diekmann of the German paper Bild who also sits on the Board of The Times.
The point about the SIG is that it has already sidelined the National Security Council and it may be the case that it was the members of the SIG who offered Michael Flynn the option of resigning or being sacked. Just as important is the claim that Bannon has ordered no record of SIG meetings be kept. In any case, it appears that when in the future historians order Presidential files from the National Archive in Washington, most of Trump's files will consist of one sheet of A4 with a few bullet points, some maps and photos, for the simple reason that Trump doesn't read.
Ok, so the NSC is a bloated organisation formed in 1947 as part of the USA's containment strategy at the start of the Cold War, but maybe this should be a matter of public debate-? Or maybe the security of the USA is now to become a public spectacle in whichever restaurant Trump happens to be in at the time, sort of like bringing the people closer to the heart of government?
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/01/...ous-hypocrisy/
Yeah,you nailed it Trish!:banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by hippifried
On the Charlie Rose Show last night I noticed "impeachment" and the "I don't believe he's sane" issue finally entered the discussion. Also some good discussion.
http://charlierose.com/videos/29828
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn4TsCnN7wY
Calamity Sean, 14th February 2016
"Yesterday the President held an incredibly productive set of meetings and discussions with Prime Minister Joe Trudeau..."
How do you spell it, is it Joe or is it Jo?
Did you get that off the whitehouse.gov?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
I love what Trump is doing so far. I really like Sessions as his attorney general pick. Also he will get the shut down of the Islamic Muslim "refugee" resettlement program that is needed. No matter how many road blocks the anti-American activist judges try to throw up. Can't wait for the wall to be built, and for the deportations of illegal alien criminals to continue to be ramped up. Finally things are going the way they ought to be going in America! But there is a lot more to do. Hopefully the ugly old hook-nosed bag Ginsburg will move to New Zealand (like she threatened to do during the campaign if Trump won), and he can get another Supreme Court justice through while he still has a majority in both the House and Senate (in addition to Gorsuch). Trump will have the leeway to pick a more Scalia-like nominee if he has those majorities in both houses. (He will probably lose the Senate in the 2018 mid-term election.) Hated to see Michael Flynn go, that guy was great!
Calamity Sean can be seen and heard on a video of the press conference, it is not my fault if he doesn't know the name of the Canadian Prime Minister, any more than it is my fault officials of the Government of the USA cannot spell Denmark, Attack, or Theresa.Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
I find this segment of your post one of the most offensive phrases I have read on Hungangels in the past 9 years, to think a fellow human being would sink so low. You should be ashamed of yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budweiser
Somehow I doubt she was ever particularly easy on the eyes, even when she was young.
Attachment 994869
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
I don't think Ruth looks all that bad in either photo. In the first one she looks like a woman in her eighties who has spent a lifetime in distinguished service as a jurist. It reminds me of Donald's attack on Justice Curiel, an intelligent and dignified man dedicated to the rule of law and civil rights whose background simply doesn't jibe with what he thinks an American should be. He has Mexican heritage or in Donald's parlance, "He's a Mexican!".
Here's a video of Donald attacking a Jewish reporter who asked him the most benign question with a preface intended to reassure him he does not think he is anti-semitic. Ironically, I don't think Donald is anti-semitic, but appears to dislike Mexican-Americans, Muslims, and African-Americans. His indifference to antisemitism, which has spiked with 50 bomb threats on Jewish Community centers taking place in three waves (one of them my niece's center) as well as the threat of an armed march against a small Montana town's even smaller Jewish community, is troubling. He only seems concerned about crimes committed by people of color and Muslims. A deadly attack on a Mosque in Quebec meets radio silence, but a thwarted attack at the louvre is worth responding to. Guess why?
But Budweiser, do you think he could have responded better to this question?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa1s2rIoefc
Here's Trevor Noah's take on today's press conference. Four minutes in you can see the Daily Show's answer to this soft-ball question. The question was essentially: What is your government planning to do about the recent flare up of anti-Semitic activity all around our nation? The easy answer would've been: We're going to stamp it out. There was no animus in the question. But before this guy even stood up you could see Trump wanted to make an example of this yarmulke wearing member of the press core. He didn't even listen to the question. He was rude, he willfully misunderstood the question, was defensive without need, accused the questioner of lying, claimed the questioner charged him with being a racist and never addressed the actual question of what is to be done about the uptake in our nation of anti-Semitic activity. Our president is so pathetic. So little league. Sad.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/mclacz...ess-conference
Trump, as also appears to be the case with his supporters, does not engage in debate, but shuts it down. If politics thrives on open debate, it dies when debate is replaced by accusation and abuse, which is what those in power want: power without accountability. This 'Accuse and Abuse' tactic comes straight out of the Rupert Murdoch school of Journalism. Like Trump, Murdoch did not create a business, he inherited a string of newspaper titles across Australia from his father and used it to expand his interests abroad. It is no accident that The Sunday Times which used to be a newspaper with a reputation for investigative journalism dropped it when Murdoch bought it, just as his journalists are told that if there is no news to report they must create it, and follow the Murdoch line that anyone in the public eye is there to be accused and abused, whether it is the Politician or Footballer (allegedly) cheating on his wife, or the man accused of murder who, whether he is guilty or innocent, is pilloried on the front pages of the paper. Murdoch journalists rarely investigate the 'truth' behind a story, they rarely probe the statements issued by public authorities, but they do echo without criticism whatever the State tells them -the tragedy at Hillsborough could have been exposed by The Sun but they preferred to accuse and abuse the supporters of Liverpool Club, relying on fabricated stories from the very police force they ought to have been investigating.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Thus, Trump's Accuse and Abuse insists the 'Media' is fake and dishonest, and public officials are there to be abused because of their ethnic background or political views or, more worryingly in the case of Judges, abused and dismissed because their interpretation of the law puts a stop to the implementation of policy.
But do not expect an open debate on the basic of evidence, or even opinion, for neither Trump nor his supporters can handle it, as recent posts in this forum confirm.
That's funny because the Obama Administration failed to put together a simple birth certificate. It's funny because I downloaded that birth certificate from a PDF that came from whitehouse.gov and then I loaded it the illustration (birth certificate) into my Adobe fireworks software and lone behold there were layers involved with the graphic and if you don't understand what I'm talking about in simple English this means that I could change the text on the birth certificateand removed items from the birth certificate what this means they failed to flatten the layers before publishing the illustrationQuote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
As i understand it, adobe wasnt released until 1992 decades after President O was born
Gee, and I thought Trump (who claims now never to have been a birther) put an end to birtherism. In Trump's own words about birthism, "I finished it, you know what I mean...President Barrack Obama was born in the United States, period!" Try to catch up - you've just been Trumped!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp6HLx9fDdA
Hahaha you have no idea what I've been doing for the last 18 months yes I know that quote and yes it's very accurate trackingtrump.ComQuote:
Originally Posted by trish
This is verifiable nonsense as the birth certificate was issued in Hawaii and not amended at any time after registration. The volume of evidence debunking the birth certificate nonsense is so huge I offer only one example-Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
– The document has been amended: The assertion is that the original birth registration said one thing, but that it was amended later and the computer-printed abstract reflects that amendment. This can be ruled out by a provision of Hawaiian Law that requires amended certificates to be “marked distinctly” with the word “altered.” §338-16 Further evidence that the birth certificate has not been amended is found in the long-form version of the certificate which includes no amendment.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2008/...awaii/#amended
These are not only facts, they are verifiable facts, and to pretend otherwise is to live in a world of delusion.
Ashlyn if you want to engage in a debate in which you defend Donald Trump, and I hope that you do, it will be to your advantage to debate policy decisions or proposals made by President Trump, as that is what we are dealing with now. For example, what is the USA's current position on the relationship between Israel and the Palestinians?
On the 15th February 2017 Donald Trump stated:
“I’m looking at two-state and one-state” formulations...I like the one that both parties like. I’m very happy with the one that both parties like. I can live with either one.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/w...rump.html?_r=0
A day later, on 16th February 2017 the USA's Ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley stated:
"First of all, the two-state solution is what we support. Anybody that wants to say the United States does not support the two-state solution - that would be an error".
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-rex-tillerson
So is it one state or two states? Does anyone in the Trump administration know? And what does a 'one-state' solution actually look like?
In watching Trump's press conference, it wasn't the details that intrigued me, it was the whole show. This was a man out of control, so full of his own importance, so hateful of others, so dismissive of debate and anything approaching logic. So he has a guy with him at all times with the nuclear codes. Stop pissing around with the details and trying to outsmart him. Just stop him
If that is so then why did they claimed it psych scanned copy? A scanned copy is just pixels how can you possibly explain the layers involved?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
I get that you're triggered but that doesn't mean that you're going to be a able to lure me into a debateQuote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
This is quackery as there is no level of proof you will accept. What is the end game here? To prove that he's a Syrian refugee who became editor of Harvard Law Review and President? That he's an African Chief who sleeps with a copy of Das Kapital under his arm? Maybe he's a Mexican and crossed the Rio Grande, and has done surprising things since he got here. I have pictures of him being birthed with a sign behind him that says welcome to Hawaii.Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
All I did was ask a simple question and now all of a sudden I feel like I'm being disenfranchised by everyone. I mean don't you think it's a little immature?Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
Don't take it personally Ashlyn. I'm trying to attack the idea and not you. I just don't understand what Barack Obama the birthers are afraid of. So I'm trying to come up with an origin story that some people on the right would find frightening.
What is it? Did he practice Santeria and ritually slaughter chickens? I am an anxious person and so I'm often told to visualize the worst outcome and realize that it's still tolerable. Maybe he ritually slaughters chickens while chanting what sounds to us like complete gibberish. He obviously didn't do this during the day while he was working because we never caught him in the act, so what's the big deal if he did it after hours in the oval office? The secret service obviously cleaned out all the feathers and chicken blood before Breitbart could document it, so no harm was done. :)
I like to keep things positive, each morning i visit blogs that feature loving, happy messages!!! ;) I mean like otherwise what's the point? Right??? It is possible to manifest your future all you have to do is Envision it but keep it positive keep it happy and spread love.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
Hardly triggered, as the whole point of this section of Hung Angels is to offer us the opportunity to debate, which is fundamental to politics if it is to mean anything. I don't understand why you are so reluctant to debate real issues that may have lasting consequences, not just for the USA but for the rest of us, for example, in Europe. If you take the time to post, at least post something of substance, rather than some hysterical rubbish about Obama that has no basis in reality. Why not address an issue like immigration, or health care, or education? Surely these are of more importance a conspiracy exposed as rubbish years ago-?Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
Because the election is over and I just don't want to invest the time (especially not with you) im trying to demo a old stinky room right now so im keeping my responses short so deal with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Back to my original question which nobody has answered yet.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...=1#post1749772
I think he said that he saw a video of Spicer calling Justin Trudeau the wrong name. Spicer is the spokesman the President chose.Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
Ashlyn, one problem I've had with a lot of Trump fans is that they don't want to discuss his policy proposals. It's always about attacking the other side, or being pleased that others are miserable...I consider this bad faith. Something cannot be right simply because the other side thinks it's wrong.
The election is over yet you want to discuss old discredited claims about Obama's citizenship. What about the future? What is Donald doing except sowing seeds of hatred and stoking fear? Punishing people because they can't afford health care may make the average Trump supporter happy in the short term, but what happens when they get sick?
That's just it you don't have to attack the other side I'd be happy to discuss his policy proposals and what I think about it but not in the format of essays. I'm just going to go ahead and tell you but having a discussion with most on the left is a very miserable experience. Only hear from everyone on the past is that Donald Trump is a racist bigot a homophobe islamophobe I mean seriously this is a 5th grade response if you guys could just cut out the racism and the hate that would be great we could talk about his policy and why I think it's right and wrong and why you think it's right and wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
Maybe I should rephrase ahem: did whitehouse.gov publish that statement, can you show me the transcript they do publish all of these things on the whitehouse.govQuote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
Okay but in fairness, the only Trump supporters we've seen here other than you are Erika and Budweiser. Erika was promoting Trump by shrieking white power messages using a frog mascot and Budweiser only wants to talk about Muslims, Mexicans, and hook-noses. Are you willing to consider that the Trump supporters we've seen here have been fixated on differences, from religion, to national origin, to facial features? I'm sure we are all happy to discuss Trump's policy proposals with you if you want to write about something he supports and tell us why it will be useful. Either here or in a thread called Trump's Policies Pros and Cons or something like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
Yes I do acknowledge their existence, they have been a thorn in the thumb of the campaign and a big problem. I do not agree with any of them when they start talking about "white power" or whatever you said it was. And I think I remember something about the KKK endorsing Donald Trump however Donald Trump denounced their endorsement. Please leave my green frog alone, i love him.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
#1 building the wall
This is very important to me because I want to feel safe. I think we could all agree that there are people in this world who want to do us great harm having wide open borders does not protect us.
I drew attention to the following in this thread:Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
Post #78 An indirect reference to the post quoting the document issued by the Govt of the USA listing 78 (alleged) 'terrorist attacks' which according to Donald Trump were not reported by the press, published as received in the Washington Post, complete with basic spelling mistakes.
Post #83 Drawing attention to a basic spelling mistake in the poster of Donald Trump issued by the Library of Congress to commemorate the Inauguration of Donald Trump as 45th President of the United States of America.
Post #88 Drawing attention to a Press Conference by White House Press Spokesman Sean Spicer in which he forgot the name of the Canadian Prime Minister, widely available across the internet.
I did not post a reference to the fact that prior to her visit to Washington DC at the end of January, a Press Release from the White House dated 27 January 2017 referred to the Prime Minister of the UK as 'Teresa May' three times, when in fact she is Theresa May. Not surprisingly, perhaps, there is a Teresa May, and she is a 'glamour model'. You can read about this farce in the Conservative newspaper The Daily Telegraph, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ee-times-memo/
The White House web page is not the only source of news, not least because Donald Trump himself uses other sources and feeds.
I hope that clears up the trail of evidence on the shambolic incompetence of the first month in office of Donald Trump.
1) The Wall is a nonsense, as it will not deter anyone not in the USA from entering the country to do harm, because they can tunnel underneath it, arrive on an obscure part of the coast in a small boat, walk across the Canadian border in the Rocky Mountains or simply fly in without question from two countries with whom the USA has such warm relations: Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the same two countries in which the 9/11 Hi-Jackers were born.Quote:
Originally Posted by AshlynCreamher
2) The worst terrorist attacks in the USA other than 9/11 were committed by Americans, not foreign nationals entering the country, thus:
-Timothy McVeigh, responsible for the bombing of the Alfred P, Murrah building in Oklahoma City, April 1995, killing 168 people and injuring over 600 others. McVeigh was born in Lockport, New York State.
-Syed Rizwan Farook, responsible for the shootings in San Bernardino, December 2015 killing 14, injuring 22 others. Farook was born in Chicago, Illinois.
-Omar Mateen, responsible for the killing in the Pulse Nightclub, Orlando, June 2016 killing 49 and injuring 53. Mateen was born in New Hyde Park, New York State.