Sooo very, very true!Quote:
Originally Posted by YasminLee
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Sooo very, very true!Quote:
Originally Posted by YasminLee
Please permit me to chime in here.
As the saying goes, don't judge me until you have walked a mile in my shoes. I think that Yasmin and Ariana have made a very important point, that being that no man, no matter how sensitive he thinks he is, can judge a TG unless and until he himself has suffered through the trauma, emotional and physical, that she has.
I had this discussion years ago with several TGs in a Yahoo chat room. And yes I knew they were TG having met them in person.
A TG cannot approach a relationship with a man in a traditional sense. A woman can make a guy wait until the third date to get intimate, a TG can't. The man would bolt. How many "sensitive" men can sit and listen to her life story and show compassion if all they can think about is seeing her cock?
Yes, I know my name says I am a "rookie poster." However, with the exception of certain guys, I proably have more experience as a purly male friend to TG women than almost anyone here. As gay and lesbian men and women seek acceptance from mainstream society and the right to marry, many who judge them have come to understandf that gay and lesbian men and women can have the same type of meaningful and momogamous long term relationship as hetrosexual couples (which is funny given that 50% of those end in divorce.)
While the same thing must happen to TG before there is more acceptance in society, it wil be even harder to gain that acceptance because 1) they have either changed their gender or show signs of confusion, or 2) they have not shown themself to be interested ot nto a momogamous relationship.
Building on that, read the treads about those who find someone they love and who apparently loves them but will not introduce them to their family or friends. If these guys talk the talk, let them walk the walk.
Most of the posts here are about how how some TG is, how someone wants to fuck her or suck her or spend the night. Until men get real and come to terms with their own sexuality then they will be stuck with esorts and shout shut the fuck up.
"A woman can make a guy wait until the third date to get intimate, a TG can't. The man would bolt"
Umm...thats bullshit...I really dont think you know what your talking about. A guy that would bolt on a TG like that will do it to anyone...GG, TG, male...doesnt make a difference.
@Yasmin The burnout on men Im hearing from you Yasmin is very similar to the two TG girls i do know on a personal level.....Still both single as well. And ive heard the same thing from good looking GG's as well no matter the age....I dont think its a GG or TG thing at all anymore, but rather a symptom of how male society is today. That and the fact that women tend to be drawn to men that are bad for them over and over again, and wind up getting screwed up mentally and emotionally to the point where when a decent compatible guy does come along, they find some way of messing it up either through fear of committment or even manufacturing problems in the relationship....Or there abused and are so used to abuse its all they think they deserve and cant be comfortable in a normal relationship.......
OOoo......that was rant-like...my apologies Yasmin, but its a sensitive topic for me right now:(
To address the orginal question, first consider that there are approximately 60,000 M2F TS in the US today. Most of these do not escort. However, as someone said above, the most visible do. We tend to only see those TS who are working (either in porn or escorting); the rest are unknown to most. Yet it is also true that many TS who do not escort are older (30, 40, 50 y.o.) who have transistioned and are struggling to lead lives as women, but who do not have either the looks or the youth of the average TS escort (20-30 y.o.); these could not successfully escort if they wanted to. Instead, they have saved money in some other fashion to eventually transition.
I somewhat agree with you, but then again....Quote:
Originally Posted by RawNY
any TS who's going to escort herself, automatically you know they've got some self-esteem problems and possibly some self-respect problems as well.
I know this doesn't go for everyone, but that's where the mentality that every man just wants sex comes from. You surround yourself with perverted motherfuckers, you're going to start to generalize.
valid point to an extentQuote:
Originally Posted by Onyx
look the fact of the matter is until you can reply in a message to me that you've been hit on by countless TS' who you never thought of approaching only to play the game they created and go through the phone calls and the lies and the other bullshit (i.e. the transition of a great day to a shitty day in a matter of hours) then it's unfair to call anyone out. Mega spoke on some shit that I can guarantee at least 5 other guys on this board I know personally have heard from the "tri-state" girls...........not all of them, but some of them. So when he vents it out on this board [our sanctuary] it shouldn't be hard to believe.................
Yasmine also made a valid point when she saidand I applaud her for stating that, I just wish other women outside of this site would admit to that shit so that the guys they talk to on the phone or in the passenger seat while they get a ride home at least get to hear that and make a decision whether or not to persue the thing.............Quote:
Originally Posted by YasminLee
for those of you that don't know how it goes down I'll throw a scenario out there for you
guy goes to a club with alot of TS', frequents the club, eventually a friend of the guy will have a TS around him/her who will talk about hanging out elsewhere if it's cool with you; now if you're one of those 20+ year old kids and you get approached this way you might still be naive about it and not factor in things like what Yasmine said because you don't know then when you make that phonecall and get the voicemail or see her in that club and she hasn't got time to say more than "hi" to you because she needs "coins" for that drug fix or that rent money, you'll be lost,dazed, & confused................ some of these guys may think they are at fault, and they aren't.........................
hope I didn't offend anyone I'm just putting it out there so hopefully I can save at least one of the youngbucks the time & stress
and this is not in every town, I can't speak for anywhere else BUT NYC, so judge for yourself
I don't doubt that the work can be grueling, but you put yourself in that position. If you don't enjoy the work, do you really have that much trouble finding another job?Quote:
Originally Posted by YasminLee
ohh boy i feel something brewing....time to get off the short bus , hehe....this stuff has been discussed way too many times......trannies are from venus and men are from jurassic park, lmfao
I really don't feel that way at allQuote:
Originally Posted by hollywoodbuckstrap
i was referring to myself and how this topic has been browbeaten to death....i think u need to walk in the other persons shoes b4 u can pass judgement on a whole community....