Elvis vs Jacko

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Originally Posted by Ryz

No I'm not the first king of controversy
I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley
to do black music so selfishly
and used it to get myself wealthy

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Off the top of my head....

Rolling Stones, Jerry Lee lewis, Bill Hailey, Buddy Holly, the Beatles, Rod Stewart, Fleetwood Mac, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Van Morrison, Janis Joplin, Cream.

How can anyone,especially the record labels known how many actual records or CD's anyone sold?US Copyright laws are not recognized in China and millions of burnt CD's and DVD's are sold in China and then distributed throught Asia and elsewhere.Capitol Records sent information to the Guiness Book of World records in 1994 documenting the Beatles sales as being 40,000,000 more than were credited for.It must have been true as the three living members of the group and John Lennon's estate sued for the 40 million in royalties they had been shorted and Capital paid it,no argement,no courts.You can not say that one group or artists is "the best".Music is not a sport.

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Originally Posted by 2009AD

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Originally Posted by Quiet Reflections

Fred41 said I labeled him Racist but he already had the label of being a racist before i was born(true or not he had it) is what i meant and I'm not trying to prove a point. Its my choice to believe it and has become my opinion also. When i was younger i got to meet a lot of my grandpa friends that had stories to tell. Like i said i tend to believe them over the public image of him that the world likes to write about. There were a lot of racists from the south at that time if you want to believe that he wasn't one of them go for it but I don't and I'm not trying to get anyone else to think so either. Form your own opinion as i did. I just didn't read an article or look at pictures. hey call me crazy but I think the elderly are one of the greatest sources of firsthand knowledge. Nobody ever wants to bad mouth the dead but we all know not everybody famous was nice while they were alive.
Timxxx I do like that song but John Wayne was awesome

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OK, so it is your opinion that Elvis was a racist. You are entitled to your opinion.

The stories you heard about Presley's racism, did you heard them from people who knew and interacted with him? First hand accounts?

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Of course they said they were. I believe the stories but who knows they could be untrue but so could any story about anybody. I don't know your age or history but I'm sure you have been around long enough to know that when people say something enough it becomes real. So everyone says he isn't racist it becomes true had everyone said he was then that would be the believed history and that is regardless of weather either story is true or not. Media creates the truth and the opposing view is always crazy no matter what it is. These guys i met were old salt of the earth southern black guys that worked with their hands all their lives and still said sir to people they didn't know even if they were younger than them. If one of these guys said he was treated poorly while working on a huge southern compound, or making a delivery,or filling up a Cadillac with gas and getting disrespected i trusted it. It not like they said he burned crosses or kicked their asses. Its the subtle underhanded racism that hurts and is remembered the most sometimes. I find these days when you say racism people tend to forget that its more than just physical and violent.

I think it is meaningless to compare champions of different eras. Elvis, Jackson, they were both legends in their time.

Was Elvis really racist? Remember, he was a product of his culture - Mississippi born in 1935 and died 1977; legalised racial segregation in the US lasted right up to the 1960's and I'm sure Elvis was no more racist that the average white american, and that his views progressed as society changed during his lifetime.

Nope,neither one!


JOHN,Paul,George and Ringo!


IMAGINE!

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Nope,neither one!


JOHN,Paul,George and Ringo!


IMAGINE!

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Nope, Each of these acts, Elvis, Beatles and MJ made music history, in their own way. Al three were influenced by earlier acts and all three influenced subsequent generations. All three acts are consider iconic, all three altered the course of music.

this is no comparison michael jackson has no equal. did elvis have 7 top 10 hits on the same album? i think not.

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Originally Posted by 62des

this is no comparison michael jackson has no equal. did elvis have 7 top 10 hits on the same album? i think not.

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No Elvis did not, but Jackson still trails Elvis and The Beatles in the number of worldwide album sales... so. Anyways, argue with other if you want. i thin k you're all splitting hairs. Elvis and jackson both revolutionized American pop music in their own eras and their own way. C ya.

Elvis clearly was a better musician/singer....hes out sold Jacko....he was the most influencial person in music history...as he was in fashion. He clearly is the KING OF ROCK-N-ROLL...while Jacko is just the King of POP.....sure you can have that...its like saying Elvis' the King of Sports and Jacko is the King of Hockey....its just facts

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Originally Posted by atlantaguy4470

Elvis was the most influencial person in music history...

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