Somali Pirates Are So Dumb. LOL & Double LOL

Invade? Just who and where should we invade? Mogadishu is not where the pirates are basses, They are based in Somali land and puntland in the north. The transitional Federal government who we would invade to support controls those area's, The "hardline Islamic" arent even a factor in the piracy, they are way south of where this happens.

So those who wish to invade just who do you wish to invade? The Islamist just because they are islaamist? Or the transitional federal government, which we put there but has no real authority? Just who should we invade?

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Originally Posted by BrendaQG

Invade? Just who and where should we invade? Mogadishu is not where the pirates are bassed, They are based in somali land and puntland in the north. The transitional Federal government who we would invade to support controls those areas's, The "hardline islamist" arent even a factor in the piracy, they are way south of where this happens.

So those who wish to invade just who do you wish to invade? The islamist just because they are islaamist? Or the transitional federal government, which we put there but has no real authority? Just who should we invade?

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Who the fuck said anything about invading? lol. Besides if anything I could see destroying some ports that they operate out of, but I have no interest in seeing us occupy any part of that country.

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Originally Posted by trish

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They're dead now and no one outside of their family is going to miss them.

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That's right. No one of consequence. It's the profits that are important.

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Some people are always ready to defend the profits of people who point guns at innocents and demand millions of dollars in ransom money.

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Originally Posted by NYBURBS

our flagged vessels and citizens have the right to safe passage through international waters. If someone wants to try to impinge upon that right then I have no quarrels with killing them.

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Well put.

phobun, you seem to have a knack for misreading. I'll chalk that up to a lack of reading comprehension skills. The passage you quoted was clearly in defense of life, not profit.

But hey, I already conceded. We fucked 'em over real good. We killed three people and made their families miserable. HOORAY for US.

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Originally Posted by NYBURBS

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Originally Posted by BrendaQG

Invade? Just who and where should we invade? Mogadishu is not where the pirates are bassed, They are based in somali land and puntland in the north. The transitional Federal government who we would invade to support controls those areas's, The "hardline islamist" arent even a factor in the piracy, they are way south of where this happens.

So those who wish to invade just who do you wish to invade? The islamist just because they are islaamist? Or the transitional federal government, which we put there but has no real authority? Just who should we invade?

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Who the fuck said anything about invading? lol. Besides if anything I could see destroying some ports that they operate out of, but I have no interest in seeing us occupy any part of that country.

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Your the the only Fucker in the thread. I am sure that when many of you talk about stopping pirates that has to be what you have in mind.

The only way to stop piracy is to hit them where they live. You remember the marine corp hymm "...to the shores of Tripoli..." that was from the Barbary wars. Where north African corsairs were doing the same thing these guys are now. We invaded and stopped that piracy forever.

How do we hit these pirates where they live when where they live is already a hell hole? A hell hole with no real government (unlike Tripoli and the other Barbary states). How do we have a war when there is no one to negotiate with.

The hard fact is that to really stop this piracy the first thing Somalia needs is a effective government, that can control it's ports.

Say we bomb their ports. So what? The pirates go out in small boats that can launch from any boat ramp. Their "mother ships" aren't exactly aircraft carriers. Any and every fishing village in Somalia would need to be bombed out of existence. Then what? Do you really think that would not have consequences? Not only that it would not stop the piracy because all the port structure they need for their fast little boats is a simple wooden dock.

That is part of the problem, the utter impoverished simplicity of their operation makes them hard to stop.

the blue square is on the left, from their point of view

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Originally Posted by SarahG

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Originally Posted by Dino Velvet

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They're holding the flag backwards... when positioning the flag where it isn't to be moving by the wind, the blue square is to always be on the left.

The question now is how long the pirates will wait before killing the 200 other hostages they have right now...

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1) I know where the line in the Hymn comes from since I served in the Corps

2) The invasion back then did not stop it forever, it just tamed it for a while.

3) I don't foresee having to destroy every port to get the point across. It's just like the school yard bully, you need only punch him in the nose a few times to get him to understand your point of view.

People will victimize those that allow them too. Aside from that if their piracy begins to have consequences for others (fishermen and those that count on that market) then those people will be forced to pressure the pirates to back off also.

we'll just agree to disagree.

I can agree some bombing will get the point across to one group. But then what about the group next door, or the next band of thugs that want's to form a petty govt. ? It's just not clear to whom we will be making the point. Who in Somalia has the authority to say no more, and actually be obeyed?

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Originally Posted by trish

I'd happily give them the TV, if that what they came for. Better for me to lose a TV than for someone to lose a life. Killing a thief for threatening to take a television IS something to be ashamed of.

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Killing a thief, who breaks into your house, is nothing to be ashamed of (maybe not something to celebrate..but nothing to be ashamed of either).

So then, just out of curiosity, at what point would you believe in violence? Passivism is wonderful..but it leaves a person (or a country) open to victimhood.

Yes, if the whole world were filled with passivists it would be utopia..until just one violent fucker comes to town and takes over the whole world 'cause no one is there to stop him.

I don't think Patrick Henry would roll over so easy.