STEALTH !

At some midwestern/southern states being STEALTH is WEALTH! Atleast from experience. lol Not alot of people in the midwest/southern states are exposed to transgenders (and the variety within). So either, you go home 'black and blue' from being beaten up (like a few girls I know of) or you just fly under radar and live life like everyone else.

Being stealth and not going thru all the fuss for me when out walking the streets, going to the mall and or as simple task as taking public transpo is the best thing a girl could do IMO. Then again, not everyone prefers to be stealth. :lol: ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

i don't consider being able to walk the street and not to get "clocked" stealth. that just being passable.

stealth is when no-one you work with and none or almost none of your friends have any idea that you are ts.

There's some truth to that Caleigh and I agree. But, isnt being stealth also meant being passable? If you're passable and no one knew you're a ts walking the street/mall etc..No one harrassed and clocked you by saying "That's a dude" then you're being stealth am I right? Even after you talked to them in a social setting? Yes? No? Maybe? ;)

Being stealth with a few co-workers, friends etc. is another story which I know only a few are able to pull off with flying colors. :P

I have a tg friend who had srs years ago. She managed to update..i.e fix and changed all her papers from M to F (birth certificate, drivers license, passport etc.). Anyways, going back she got engaged later on married to this guy.They tried to "concieved" a child (which we all know isnt quite possible). So she also went as far as to connive with her own doctor to figuring out what to tell her husband. To cut this very long story short, Her husband found out her being "Too slealthy" about her past and divorced her because of deception.

Passable (Adjective)

1: a: capable of being passed, crossed, or traveled on <passable roads> b: capable of being freely circulated

2: good enough : adequate

Stealth (Adjective)

a: intended not to attract attention.

~Kisses.

HTG

in a venn diagram stealth would be a subset of passable wouldn't it? which would itself be a subset of all ts.

though this whole passability thing is hardly clear cut.

allanah i heard was "clocked" on Maury, but that's such an artificial setting. some people have very bad trans-dar and some can spot that Barbara Bush is TS.

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Originally Posted by Hara_Juku Tgirl

There's some truth to that Caleigh and I agree. But, isnt being stealth also meant being passable? If you're passable and no one knew you're a ts walking the street/mall etc..No one harrassed and clocked you by saying "That's a dude" then you're being stealth am I right? Even after you talked to them in a social setting? Yes? No? Maybe? ;)

Being stealth with a few co-workers, friends etc. is another story which I know only a few are able to pull off with flying colors. :P

I have a tg friend who had srs years ago. She managed to update..i.e fix and changed all her papers from M to F (birth certificate, drivers license, passport etc.). Anyways, going back she got engaged later on married to this guy.They tried to "concieved" a child (which we all know isnt quite possible). So she also went as far as to connive with her own doctor to figuring out what to tell her husband. To cut this very long story short, Her husband found out her being "Too slealthy" about her past and divorced her because of deception.

Passable (Adjective)

1: a: capable of being passed, crossed, or traveled on <passable roads> b: capable of being freely circulated

2: good enough : adequate

Stealth (Adjective)

a: intended not to attract attention.

~Kisses.

HTG

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The definitions you have supplied are correct, though in
our discussion I thought these might be more apropos;


In the context of male-to-female transsexual women,
"passing" means that when you meet someone, they
accept you without any reservations as a women.


But "passing" comes in various degrees, for example it might
mean that you walk in pubic without being identified as man.


Another significant stage is called "stealth" where acquaintances,
work colleagues and even a circle of friends are unaware of your
male background.


Finally there's "deep stealth", where you totally live your life as a
woman and very close friends and even your husband are unaware
that you are a transwoman.

I agree that subsets and or classifications are inevitably present (as is with any other species). There are varying degrees and subtle differences between classes/distinctions of passability and being stealthy. But to me they are somewhat "intertwined" and one cannot go by without the other. Like one cannot be "stealthy" and NOT be passable FIRST. Only then can one who's passable be stealthy. Maybe Im wrong? It sure is a brain twister of some sorts if you think more about it. LOL

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Originally Posted by Caleigh

some can spot that Barbara Bush is TS.

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LOL :lol: That was a good laugh!

~Kisses.

HTG

There's another element here: intent. Yes, as Caleigh says, in a venn diagram stealth would be a subset of passable, which would in turn be a subset of transgender. But stealth I think implies more of an intent to fly under the rader, while passable not so much. Not that a passable girl would want to be read, as such, but that she's not so concerned about hiding her T, but a stealth girl would and does intend to hide that--as Peggy says, even so far as hiding it from her husband (a bad move as Hara's story illustrates).

I would hazard that all girls want to pass, but do all want to go stealth?

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...yWhoCameIn.jpg

I was a deep stealth operative for http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...secretcrop.jpg

However I was demoted to a stealth operative for blowing my cover.
I had to though as the stress of being under became too great to bear.

Living deep stealth is just like living in the closet. You are always fearful
that you will be found out. The consequences of being found out can
range from embarrasment, to being a social outcast, to physical violence,
and perhaps even to death.

You are always wary, did you say the wrong thing, was the pitch of your
voice off, did you exhibit the proper mannerisms.

Of course the longer you are 'on the job' the better and more adept you
become in your role. I had been on the job 30 years, working my way
up the ranks from being a passable pre op, to a stealthy pre op, then
ultimatlely to a deep stealth post op.

Right from the onset, I had all of my identification changed, so that it
would be congruent to my cover. I was deeper than a mole planted
by the KGB during the Cold war. There were very few who knew
the me that I was born as. Of course there was my family. As a pre
op my lovers would have to know, but to others it would be a State
secret.

Once I made it to post op, I didn't even have to tell my lovers, if I
didn't desire. Not even all of my doctors knew. When I had lipo
recently there was no need to share that information as she was
sucking fat, not my clit. :roll:

Thus for a number of reasons I have broken cover, one reason is that
I hope some of my experiences will be helpful to others. But a less
altruistic reason is that it can be lonely living in a crowded closet.

In that closet there is no one to share your thoughts, fears, and
concerns. As agent Faraday of MI-5 has stated it sometimes is nice
to share your feelings with other operatives.

While no longer deep stealth, I still utilize my stealth training. I limit
photos of myself on the Net, and will blur them somewhat so that
they won't be disseminated and come back to haunt me. I still limit
divulging my past to people in the 'real world' to a need to know basis.

I never know when I may have to go back under.

Thus on that note, once you have read this post please look into to the light. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...stealthpeg.gif :roll:

great post

PMSL :)

I hope that wasn't a dig though :oops:

Oh God, I'm at the top of page 4 now. Time to change my avatar back, that's a bit much.