why do SOME white people think its ok to be racist?

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Originally Posted by B1

So, rather than repair a failing education system, the city chose to hire stoopid cops...

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Stoopid cops? Are there any other kind?

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Originally Posted by chefmike

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Originally Posted by B1

So, rather than repair a failing education system, the city chose to hire stoopid cops...

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Stoopid cops? Are there any other kind?

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, there are, but it's quite the challenge to ferret them out. :wink:

because whites are the superior race. we own everything.learn to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by InHouston

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

If anything, the white race has been more destructive then any race in the world. Some radical individuals would say that the white race was like a plague. To give an example, the white race managed to almost wipe out the American Indian. They did wipe out the Indian's soul, and it's sad to see what is left of their community.

The white race has started war after war, and the black individual is the most hated race in the world. Any insight into the accomplishments of the black race is ignored or buried by society. You hear nothing about black scholars from Africa teaching many in Asia. Why does the world like to make you believe that Egypt is not apart of Africa.

Honestly, I could go on and on, because I'm disturbed by the comments so far. I'm not even thinking straight, but I'll drop some solid facts and evidence if questioned.

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Okay well while you bash white people as the scourge of the Earth, here’s a nice little fact for you that you missed. The majority of Africans slaves were captured, imprisoned, and sold to European slave ships by … guess who … native black Africans!

Look at a map, Egypt is firmly attached to Africa.

And as far as war-mongering white people being responsible for every war in our history, it would do you well to stop generalizing and read world history. You’ll then find that all races of humans have been warring for centuries against each other for resources and territory. I find it ironic that you blame the white man for the world’s woes and wars, when you can easily study Africa today (with all its black people) as one of the most war-torn continents in the world today.

And young black people don’t pursue Hip Hop to rise above the ghetto and the disadvantages of being black in America. They do it because it’s far easier to become a millionaire by pushing some buttons on a drum machine, babble a bunch of nonsensical drivel into a microphone, rather than study, go to college, work hard, and get paid $50,000 a year to live in middle class suburbia for the rest of your life.

Word to your mutha!

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I'm not blaming anyone. You misquoted me, looking to be right. There are evil people of every race in this world. I'm tired of blacks being blamed for everything. This trend is the same thing happening to muslims world wide now. And "no", I'm not a muslim.

Africa is the homeland to man by the way. So when you talk about Africa, you talk about your roots as well. I know the history of slavery. It still doesn't make up for anything.

Now you sound like the ignorant one here. Nothing in life is easy. Not too many people succeed in the music industry. You are so incorrect about your statement:

"they do it because it’s far easier to become a millionaire by pushing some buttons on a drum machine, babble a bunch of nonsensical drivel into a microphone, rather than study, go to college, work hard, and get paid $50,000 a year to live in middle class suburbia for the rest of your life."

Some lyrics are quite complex and some are not. Depending on the artist. Think out your statements first. By the way, the average middle class family can't live off $50,000 a year. Try having a house, a wife, cars, and kids. We are on track to not having a middle class in this society. A scary fact, but it may happen.

"Look at a map, Egypt is firmly attached to Africa. " I never said that Egypt wasn't apart of Africa. Please reread what I said or do you just want to stir up trouble.

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Originally Posted by J

hip hop was referenced by me to point out the degredation of women and the overal nasty gangsta attitude prevelant in most of em which middle white america often uses to reafirm racial bigotry...whatever deep meaning and other bullshit u seem to find in it is irrelevant, as is ur point on heavy metal...

and for the record, i listen to hip hop and think most of it sucks...furthermore, i find it pretty much devoid of any talent...i mean yeah some of it rhymes, but so does dr suess...so if u mean on a deep dr suess level, then yeah it sure as hell is loaded with talent, but on a music level it doesnt touch opera, classical, jazz, country, rock or probably even polka...

for all the alleged genius, i doubt yo yo ma or pavoratti consider tupac a great talent, wheres the same cant be said in reverse...

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There is so much talent in hip-hop. I don't know what you listen to. Like all music, there's the good and the bad. There are artists like Common, Mos Def, The Roots...and I could go on and on. I hear a lot of rock that sucks now. Heavy Metal was always a joke in my eyes. A bunch of screaming. How about that for generalization?

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Originally Posted by Mac_Hine

because whites are the superior race. we own everything.learn to deal with it.

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In your case, I'd bet that it's your parents who own everything.

Including the basement that you currently reside in... :roll:

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Originally Posted by J

hip hop was referenced by me to point out the degredation of women and the overal nasty gangsta attitude prevelant in most of em which middle white america often uses to reafirm racial bigotry...whatever deep meaning and other bullshit u seem to find in it is irrelevant, as is ur point on heavy metal...

and for the record, i listen to hip hop and think most of it sucks...furthermore, i find it pretty much devoid of any talent...i mean yeah some of it rhymes, but so does dr suess...so if u mean on a deep dr suess level, then yeah it sure as hell is loaded with talent, but on a music level it doesnt touch opera, classical, jazz, country, rock or probably even polka...

for all the alleged genius, i doubt yo yo ma or pavoratti consider tupac a great talent, wheres the same cant be said in reverse...

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You're thinking of Rap. Not Hip Hop.
Hip Hop is a lifestyle as well as a music genre that takes so much talent to produce its nuts.

A few scenarios

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A black guy calls a T girl escort and is asked over the phone is he black. He replies yes and she says she doesn't date black guys. Is she racist or prejudiced or neither.

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A city offers contracts for bid and has set aside a certain percentage for minority contractors.

Racist, prejudiced or neither.

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A white applicant is turned down for admissions to a prestigious West Coast school despite a 4.0 gpa and great community service.
Racist, prejudiced or neither?

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Two candidates are up for a job with equal qualifications but the job goes to the one that is more politically connected.

Racist, prejudiced or neither?

My opinions

Scenario One
Prejudiced
Something in her past has brought her to this conclusion. It could be a bad experience or her upbringing but she is entitled to it.

Scenario Two
Neither
In Chicago despite there being set asides, the "powers that be" find ways to ensure that they get the lions share of these contracts through illegal sham companies, that is, companies fronted by a minority but the actual company is non minority. There needs to be something that keeps the playing field level for blacks, Asian, women and others.

Scenario Three
Not sure
Believe it or not this scenario happens to Asians more than whites as their growing numbers are competing for a small number of slots. Legacies are a bigger threat here than minorities.

Scenario Four
Racist
Over the years each community has helped its own. Without outside intervention each community will continue to help their own until acted on by some outside force. Right now whites hold many majorities but that could change in twenty to thirty years.

Bottom line when things happen to you or me that are not right will we perpetuate the injustices on others. That is, pass along the bad we have received or change it and pass along something better.

I only had to read the beginning of this thread to know it would degenerate into a abysmal unfocused mass rant.

Firstly, the hiphop most of you are referencing is NOT hiphop. It is the capitalistic machismo attitude fornicated by corperate companies like Sony and MTV in a desperate attempt to "save the youth". What has happened however is that this brash lie has born itself into a new genre- pop rap. The unfortunate youths that have taken to this ruse now believe this is hiphop music- but it is not- and the very puppets muppetting themselves as rappers are infact slaves not just to themselves- but to corperate ideas which they now bare as their own. Its a forensic force feed lie.

Now the racist tension you have in america today is mostly about ignorance on both parts. You have the blacks that are proud of a culture they are not too sure about, and you have the whites desperately attempting to bridge the tension by understanding the culture which is constantly re-structed and re-designed by the blacks. You also have the Southern (and sometimes Northern) racists that will blame any of their mis-fortune to the blacks they see on tv who represent (unfortunately) a just a portion of the handfully picked muppets in the white man's game.

If I was to judge white people strictly based on what I see on television, then would I be speaking about you? Just is the case that the rappers you see on television do not represent the blacks in urban centers. Some (maybe) but not all.

Pointing the finger because you were suddenly wrong but someone of another race is not rational manner in which to judge an entire culture. Your a victim of your own biggorty. Remember- the judge loves the sophist and favors the liar. Your own words will favor your own ignorance unless you exercise careful reason and temperence next time you think.

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Originally Posted by J

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

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Originally Posted by J

hip hop was referenced by me to point out the degredation of women and the overal nasty gangsta attitude prevelant in most of em which middle white america often uses to reafirm racial bigotry...whatever deep meaning and other bullshit u seem to find in it is irrelevant, as is ur point on heavy metal...

and for the record, i listen to hip hop and think most of it sucks...furthermore, i find it pretty much devoid of any talent...i mean yeah some of it rhymes, but so does dr suess...so if u mean on a deep dr suess level, then yeah it sure as hell is loaded with talent, but on a music level it doesnt touch opera, classical, jazz, country, rock or probably even polka...

for all the alleged genius, i doubt yo yo ma or pavoratti consider tupac a great talent, wheres the same cant be said in reverse...

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There is so much talent in hip-hop. I don't know what you listen to. Like all music, there's the good and the bad. There are artists like Common, Mos Def, The Roots...and I could go on and on. I hear a lot of rock that sucks now. Heavy Metal was always a joke in my eyes. A bunch of screaming. How about that for generalization?

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i think thats a very fair generalization, and quite honestly thats what most hip hop sounds like to me..yeah in clubs i can enjoy some songs and giggle at the silly lyrics, but as a whole the genre doesnt impress me from a talent point of view...

as for the retard commenting on whites being superior, i wonder if his form of entertainment is limited to polka and riverdance...or did he just mean superior as in better at abusing and murdering other people and stealing everything in sight...

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Club and radio rap is so mainstream and made popular by more then black America. People generalize about rap...hip-hop...whatever...without even trying to see whats out there. I wish these same individuals would try to write a track and produce it.