Illegal downloads of Tgirl porn, you views please

me myself i do alot of buying, and downloading free stuff. Alot of the time you get the free stuff because a stie has to cater to a broad taste to have as many customers as possible, but you as a consumer only want maybe 3 or 4 sets out of 10. same thing goes for music and some movies. I might liek one or two song off a new CD, but dont liek the whole cd enough to spend $10-$15 for it. I see where seanchai doesnt mind free contant as long as noone make a profit of his stuff. with out a preview or sample floatign around, you might lose a potential audience.

People argue about the price of DVD's. Hey, you guys in the US, you've got it made. In the UK, you pay between £25 and £35 per film (looking up exchange rate on xe.com, thats between $46.63 and $65. 28 for each film.) for old and new releases.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

When all is said and done, a release like Buddy Wood's DVD costs about $17k to get out in the stores. That includes model fees, design and production of the DVD/cover but not advertising.
If a title sells through our distributor they take 30% - and often the wholesale price is $12-$15 depending on how many the retailer takes. So from that sell we only get $8-$10 a piece. This is why we try and push through http://www.shemale-video-direct.com at $24.99 as it's our own company and direct sale and through http://www.groobyvod.com.
We're not selling $100,000's of an item, it takes up to a year for a title to break even. There simply isn't enough DVD buyers of an already flooded adult market out there. A couple of years ago I was getting taken around Evil Angel's office and the manager there Jeff give me some numbers of Joey Silvera's releases ... over a lifetime of a Silvera shemale DVD they only sell numbers in the low tens of thousands - worldwide. I had no idea it would be so low and expected in to the 100,000's range.
So charging $24.99 is a matter of economics. If we sold 100,000 of the title in the first year of release, we could charge $3 a release and happily make a profit.
seanchai

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seanchai, I had no idea that it took such a long time to break even. I know its a specialised market, tgirl adult material, but thats ridiculous. If I'd got $17k to give you, I would. :) I'd better start ordering my films direct from you instead, cos I'd rather see the money be in your pocket that some fucker elses. Oh yeah, where did the whole shit about giving to charity thing come from?

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Originally Posted by BeardedOne

Anyway, the chief technogeek at the company once pointed out that "Porn was the impetus for high-speed internet" and I know he's right because, aside from porn (And porn forums), I do very little else on this thing (Oh, there's the comics, like Misfile and Ozy & Millie, both highly recommended, and AdCritic - 'All commercials, all the time' - to add a bit of balance).

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Not just broadband, or even the internet, but many of the technologies finding their ways into consumers hands: look at VCRs: what pushed their acceptance was the ability to watch porn at home. Of course, teh great irony is that it killed adult theaters in the process (anyone have any real Adult theaters anywhere near them? I'm not talking about peep booths).

If people knew where much of the money goes that they give to large charities, they might consider buying more porn with that money.

Dammit, this thread got ahead of me. I have to call Florida (Not the whole state, just a little corner of it) I'll post more later.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Why does a product which costs $50k cost more than "Lord of the Rings"? I think"bearded one" answered this fully but let me give you some numbers for the adult industry.
When all is said and done, a release like Buddy Wood's DVD costs about $17k to get out in the stores. That includes model fees, design and production of the DVD/cover but not advertising.
If a title sells through our distributor they take 30% - and often the wholesale price is $12-$15 depending on how many the retailer takes. So from that sell we only get $8-$10 a piece. This is why we try and push through http://www.shemale-video-direct.com at $24.99 as it's our own company and direct sale and through http://www.groobyvod.com.

We're not selling $100,000's of an item, it takes up to a year for a title to break even. There simply isn't enough DVD buyers of an already flooded adult market out there. A couple of years ago I was getting taken around Evil Angel's office and the manager there Jeff give me some numbers of Joey Silvera's releases ... over a lifetime of a Silvera shemale DVD they only sell numbers in the low tens of thousands - worldwide. I had no idea it would be so low and expected in to the 100,000's range.
So charging $24.99 is a matter of economics. If we sold 100,000 of the title in the first year of release, we could charge $3 a release and happily make a profit.
seanchai

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Interesting stuff. I've often wondered about the economics of "shemale porn," particularly given that it, like all sectors of the porn industry, appears to be oversaturated.

-Quinn

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If people knew where much of the money goes that they give to large charities, they might consider buying more porn with that money.

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That's why I give it to porn. :?

The administrative costs attached to some of the popular charities (Like UNICEF!) are more obscene than the acts that we so like to watch.

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Interesting stuff. I've often wondered about the economics of "shemale porn," particularly given that it, like all sectors of the porn industry, appears to be oversaturated.

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You =know= that I'm taking notes here.

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Where the fuck did the idea of giving money to charity come from?

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Because some people want to give money to UNICEF rather than to porn sites and DVD purchases (Not that there's anything wrong with that), and wish to take the high moral ground as a result thereof.

Personally, I do both, because I can multitask. :lol:

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(I think there will be a class action at some point against sites like this but unlikely it will come from the adult industry as most people aren't prepared to work together on these sort of instances).

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Instead of looking to take on people on the net, which would be like pissing your money away (only your lawyers would get rich) try taking on people who retail your DVDs. I know if this anywhere else . But in the U.K there is a practice called exchaning.Where you buy an DVD £25 - £35 & watch it, then take it back and the retailer give £10 or £15 off anther DVD, which means the retailer can sell the same DVD over & over again. Which must piss off you producers

Quinn wrote

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Interesting stuff. I've often wondered about the economics of "shemale porn," particularly given that it, like all sectors of the porn industry, appears to be oversaturated

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oversaturated with shit! l could build a wall with the sub stranded crap that l have bought, I swear it must cost more to shoot the picture on the box covers than to make some films.


p.s I keep reading that the porn biz is a billon dollar biz bigger than Hollywood. And Shemale porn is one of the fastest growing sectors in it. So were does the money go, which of you guys are driving the Ferraris & Bentleys.

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p.s I keep reading that the porn biz is a billon dollar biz bigger than Hollywood. And Shemale porn is one of the fastest growing sectors in it. So were does the money go, which of you guys are driving the Ferraris & Bentleys.

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Yeah I'd like to know who those guys are, we've got to settle with Aston Martin's and Jaguars.... :-(

seanchai

i find this topic funny, considering that BASICALLY, u guys use this site as a way to exchange stuff from PAID sites lol. I mean i guess it's cool that some people have enuf of a conscience to think about the fact that you could potentially be taking $ outta pocket from ppl by file sharing and so forth.... but thats not gonna stop ne1 lol. Shyt i wish there was a forum like this for hung males lol i'd be downloading and surfing for days without a second thought!