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Amy stop it!, Don't try to bring logic to this.
The HA assistant prosocuter team say george is guilty no matter what facts you bring to the topic.
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AmyDaly
I wasn't in world war 2, but I learned a lot about it in high school. What is your point?
Meaning no disrespect, Amy but...my point is you weren't there. Speculation is just that.
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natina
Neighbor: Trayvon Martin Shooting wasn't self defense
*eye witnesses* very rarley get the facts correct and thats a FACT.
I was wondering if the 2 witnesses actually were standing there watching the episode or did they come out after they heard the shot fired??????
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AmyDaly
None of the people you name saw it with their own eyes. They heard it and assumed. None of the analysts say it is Trayvon either. Zimmerman's parents claimed it was zimmerman as well. They aren't credible witnesses any more than Trayvon's parents.
Ok, yes they said it wasn't Trayvon, but THEY DEFINITELY SAID IT'S NOT ZIMMERMAN. Now I know you're not stupid to believe after what was said. I mean If they said it's not Zimmerman and it was only him and Trayvon, then ummmmmmmmm It had to be Trayvon's voice. I mean wtf they were the only two there fighting, Tray is dead and Zimmerman is alive and his voice was captured. The equation has to come out that it was Trayvon if it wasn't Zimmerman. So let me get this, they said it wasn't Zimmerman, and the analysis said it wasn't Trayvon, so who is it a ghost?
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CORVETTEDUDE
my point is you weren't there. Speculation is just that.
There are only 2 facts, after that this whole topic is specualtion!!!!
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AmyDaly
And of course it makes no sense. He wants to cover from the rain, but doesn't mind walking to and back from the store in the rain. He is scared of zimmerman, but also decided to jump on top of him MMA style and beat his ass. His girlfriends story? Its her word against Zimmerman. There is more actual evidence backing up most of what Zimmerman has had to say. Especially after today.
Hold the hell up, are you trying make it seem that teen had no right to work in the rain or not? WTF is you talking about? When he went to the store it was light drizzle then as he came back it got heavy, haven't you been in rain like that where it was drizzling then it got heavy then it stopped or got light again? People go to the store in rain, hell people take so called romantic walks in the rain, you're making it seem like he shouldn't have been in the rain.
who the fuck said he did a MMA move on Zimmerman? WTF ?
There is more evidence backing up Zimmerman only in your mind!!!
Grown ass man had no business following a teen. Zimmerman has a violent past, am I wrong or right? How do Zimmerman assault two police with 2 counts and gets to go home? If that was an African descent person they would of hung our ass!!! that's a fact!!!
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Fact is, Zimmerman should of kept his ass in his Suv.
Fact is in the neighborhood watch rules, 1. you are not to carry a weapon-ZIMMERMAN VIOLATED THAT RULE. 2. You are not to engage a person, call the police - Zimmerman VIOLATED THAT RULE ALSO!!!
How the fuck some of you going to dismiss Trayvon's girlfriend testimony like it don't matter, next to Zimmerman she was the last to talk to Trayvon she is very very dam important to this case. PHONE LOGS SHOW HE WAS TALKING TO HER ABOUT THAT AND IT SHOWS HE WAS BEING STALKED, another FACT!!!
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"I asked Mr. Martin if the voice calling for help was that of his son," the officer wrote. "Mr. Martin, clearly emotionally impacted by the recording, quietly responded `no."'
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17...#ixzz1vByYUpUW
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Another fact, Zimmerman was deemed, AS A MANSLAUGHTER CASE and then he wasn't arrested!!! How come?
Another fact, how is it that Trayvon gets missing for 3 days in a morgue and the police dept list him as a john doe when they had the name of him in 36 hours?
I mean what the fuck is really going on here. OH logic? fuck logic, ABSOLUTE FACTS AND EVIDENCE IS PERTINENT IN THIS CASE!!!
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jamesedwards
Fact is, Zimmerman should of kept his ass in his Suv.
Fact is in the neighborhood watch rules, 1. you are not to carry a weapon-ZIMMERMAN VIOLATED THAT RULE. 2. You are not to engage a person, call the police - Zimmerman VIOLATED THAT RULE ALSO!!!
How the fuck some of you going to dismiss Trayvon's girlfriend testimony like it don't matter, next to Zimmerman she was the last to talk to Trayvon she is very very dam important to this case. PHONE LOGS SHOW HE WAS TALKING TO HER ABOUT THAT AND IT SHOWS HE WAS BEING STALKED, another FACT!!!
Fact is, If martin would have not been suspended he would be alive
Fact is, if martins girl thought he couldn't handle the situation SHE sghould have called the cops.
Fact is, martins girl's testimony is here say and nothing more.
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jamesedwards
Another fact, Zimmerman was deemed, AS A MANSLAUGHTER CASE and then he wasn't arrested!!! How come?
Another fact, how is it that Trayvon gets missing for 3 days in a morgue and the police dept list him as a john doe when they had the name of him in 36 hours?
I mean what the fuck is really going on here. OH logic? fuck logic, ABSOLUTE FACTS AND EVIDENCE IS PERTINENT IN THIS CASE!!!
Another fact, there was not enough evidence to make a charge untill the *special prosecuter* was put in place..........hmm
Another fact, what does the morgue have to do with george shooting him?
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buds
What did Trayvon's mother say?
Here we go again!!!
Expert Voice Analysists Say 911 Screams are NOT From Zimmerman - YouTube
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Another fact, there was not enough evidence to make a charge untill the *special prosecuter* was put in place..........hmm
Another fact, what does the morgue have to do with george shooting him?
It happens to be a fact that HE WAS NAMED A JOHN DOE for 3 days, don't police do an investigation to get a person's name? OH but wait a minute they had his name within 36 hours, shouldn't that give a report to the morgue so they can stop calling him a John Doe, so I asked wtf is really going on. Being Zimmerman got off two counts of violent assault on a police officer, I questioned WHAT THE FUCK IS REALLY GOING ON that's that facts.
We all got dam well if it was an African descent person that shoot any dam body they would of arrested our asses and not let us go from the getty up.
Just not long ago in Long Island NYC an African descent man pulled out his licensed assault rifle to warn off over 20 gang members he thought to be of MS-13, he fired into the ground four times, guess what? He was still arrested and didn't kill no dam one. So this motha fucka Zimmerman kills a person and not be arrested? Get the fuck outta here.
IN New York another African descent man kills a Caucasian man for trying to rob and harm him in his home, he used self defense, I know I don't have to tell you where I am going right? OK, THE AFRICAN DESCENT MAN IS DOING TIME BECAUSE HE USED SELF DEFENSE ON A CAUCASIAN!!! Now you do the math.
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jamesedwards
It happens to be a fact that HE WAS NAMED A JOHN DOE for 3 days, don't police do an investigation to get a person's name? OH but wait a minute they had his name within 36 hours, shouldn't that give a report to the morgue so they can stop calling him a John Doe, so I asked wtf is really going on.
Ok then bring the special prosecuter to bring charges to the coroner for that.
thats not the topic.
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jamesedwards
What did Trayvon's mother say?
I'm talking about the father don't twist it.
So the father doesn't know his sons voice????? Or maybe the father was on point at the beginning.
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Originally Posted by
buds
I'm talking about the father don't twist it.
So the father doesn't know his sons voice????? Or maybe the father was on point at the beginning.
So are you talking about the mother don't know her own son's voice?
And specialist to back that up also?
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jamesedwards
So are you talking about the mother don't know her own son's voice?
And specialist to back that up also?
Shit he was living with the father cause the mother probably couldn't control him.
A *specialist* gets paid by the person who hired them.
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jamesedwards
It happens to be a fact that HE WAS NAMED A JOHN DOE for 3 days, don't police do an investigation to get a person's name? OH but wait a minute they had his name within 36 hours, shouldn't that give a report to the morgue so they can stop calling him a John Doe, so I asked wtf is really going on. Being Zimmerman got off two counts of violent assault on a police officer, I questioned WHAT THE FUCK IS REALLY GOING ON that's that facts.
We all got dam well if it was an African descent person that shoot any dam body they would of arrested our asses and not let us go from the getty up.
Just not long ago in Long Island NYC an African descent man pulled out his licensed assault rifle to warn off over 20 gang members he thought to be of MS-13, he fired into the ground four times, guess what? He was still arrested and didn't kill no dam one. So this motha fucka Zimmerman kills a person and not be arrested? Get the fuck outta here.
IN New York another African descent man kills a Caucasian man for trying to rob and harm him in his home, he used self defense, I know I don't have to tell you where I am going right? OK, THE AFRICAN DESCENT MAN IS DOING TIME BECAUSE HE USED SELF DEFENSE ON A CAUCASIAN!!! Now you do the math.
I love the edit after i responded.
Whatever keep playing the race card to try and bolster your arguement.
I thought we established that it was the dispatcher who brought race into this and george said he din't know.
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buds
I love the edit after i responded.
Whatever keep playing the race card to try and bolster your arguement.
I thought we established that it was the dispatcher who brought race into this and george said he din't know.
Hold up I can't edit my own post if I want to add something in or correct a mistake? So what are you insinuating because of my editing? I mean Really?
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amydaly will respond like fox news to any important issue in the black community.
facts stated in the affidavit about who was not calling for help and who the only OTHER REASONABLE EXPLANATION WOULD BE CALLING AND SCREAMING FOR HELP AS THERE WAS NO OTHERS OUT SIDE BUT ZIMMERMAN AND MTRAYVON MARTIN
AMYDALT=Y WILL CONTINUE TO DENY THE OBVIOUS JUST TO TROLL AFRICAN AMERICAN ISSUES.
Nancy explains the law in Trayvon death - YouTube
Curtis Sliwa on what Zimmerman did wrong - YouTube
New Trayvon Martin Witness speaks to CNNs Anderson Cooper - YouTube
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jamesedwards
So are you talking about the mother don't know her own son's voice?
And specialist to back that up also?
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buds
I love the edit after i responded.
Whatever keep playing the race card to try and bolster your arguement.
I thought we established that it was the dispatcher who brought race into this and george said he din't know.
LOL are you fucking kidding me? The dispatcher?
Man we are talking about a dam institution that's larger than some dam dispatcher that's racism against so called minorities, Any time you have Caucasian give statistics that Caucasians commit the most crimes yet there are more African descent people in jail than Caucasians then you tell me what the fuck is that? Are you going to call it a mistake? Let me ask you how many cases you know African descent cops shooting an unarmed Caucasian person? Name one? Tell me what happened, if you can find one.
I see what yall trying to do sweep the race shit right under the rug, we ain't established shit on my end dude.
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I laugh at Amy because she tried to use dialectic acrobatics with that bullshit talking about the analysis didn't say it was Trayvon's voice either. If it was only Trayvon and Zimmerman there and Tray is dead and the analysis finds out it's not Zimmerman's voice who the hell else can it be? Of course the didn't analyze Trays voice, BECAUSE HE'S FUCKING DEAD, COURTESY OF VIGILANTE GEORGE!!!
I am trying to figure out has Amy taken math!!! 2 eliminate one, equals 1 !!! If they said it's not Zimmerman's voice then it had to be Trays.
There was a report that I read and I don't have it where both the mother and father said it was Trayvon's voice. Now we can eliminate Trayvon's father being I don't have that document, but now you got Tray's mother and 2 analysis that says IT'S NOT ZIMMERMAN!!! 3 against one!!!
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blaaaaaaaah Curtis Silwa said HE DID NOTHING RIGHT LOL HAHAHAH LOL DAMMMMMM I mean give Zimmerman some credit he did call the police lol hahahahah lol ctfu lol
He said he had all the furniture upstairs and rearanged in the wrong room lol
James <<<< fell the fuck out laughing lol Cutis aint right lol hahahah
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natina
amydaly will respond like fox news to any important issue in the black community.
facts stated in the affidavit about who was not calling for help and who the only OTHER REASONABLE EXPLANATION WOULD BE CALLING AND SCREAMING FOR HELP AS THERE WAS NO OTHERS OUT SIDE BUT ZIMMERMAN AND MTRAYVON MARTIN
AMYDALT=Y WILL CONTINUE TO DENY THE OBVIOUS JUST TO TROLL AFRICAN AMERICAN ISSUES.
lol I could care less about black issues because I am not black. Its only a black issue because you are making it one. You only want this guy to go to jail because he is white and you hate whitey. Why you so mad?
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Curtis is saying exactly what I been saying "THE FUCKA ZIMMERMAN HALLUCINATING THAT TRAYVON WAS UP TO NO DAM GOOD!!! HE WAS ON A VIGILANTE PROWL"
Now I don't know Curtis I met him once back in the day in NYC but he is seeing exactly the same shit I see as far as Zimmerman. Zimmerman is a fucking liar and a lunatic, delusional paranoid motha fucka!!! His mental sickness lead to someone being killed!!!
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jamesedwards
I laugh at Amy because she tried to use dialectic acrobatics with that bullshit talking about the analysis didn't say it was Trayvon's voice either. If it was only Trayvon and Zimmerman there and Tray is dead and the analysis finds out it's not Zimmerman's voice who the hell else can it be? Of course the didn't analyze Trays voice, BECAUSE HE'S FUCKING DEAD, COURTESY OF VIGILANTE GEORGE!!!
I am trying to figure out has Amy taken math!!! 2 eliminate one, equals 1 !!! If they said it's not Zimmerman's voice then it had to be Trays.
There was a report that I read and I don't have it where both the mother and father said it was Trayvon's voice. Now we can eliminate Trayvon's father being I don't have that document, but now you got Tray's mother and 2 analysis that says IT'S NOT ZIMMERMAN!!! 3 against one!!!
Well, you can argue all you want, but in the end its going to be up to the court to decide and I guess we can see what happens then. It's not looking good for the prosecution though. Its not even worth it to try and argue logic with people who always have to resort to "Its racist" or personal insults. My point is pretty much proven.
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Caucasian people for zimmerman's arrest and conviction
CAUCASIAN PEOPLE FOR ZIMMERMAN'S ARREST AND CONVICTION
OUTRAGED MOTHER OF WITNESS DESCRIBES TRAY VON MARTIN'S LAST MOMENT - YouTube
STUDENT RALLY AT SEMINOLE COUNTY CRIMINAL CENTER - 3/19/2012
CROWD OF OUTRAGED CITIZENS AND STUDENT LAWYERS DEMAND GEORGE ZIMMERMANS ARREST AND NEW STATE PROSECUTOR FOR CASE AT THE SANFORD COURTHOUSE.
THE OUTRAGED MOTHER OF WITNESS SPEAKS ON THE CHILLING MOMENTS JUST BEFORE TRAYVON MARTIN'S DEATH IN HER DAUGHTERS BACKYARD
Papantonio: Trayvon Killer Should Be Charged With Premeditated Murder - YouTube
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AmyDaly
lol I could care less about black issues because I am not black. Its only a black issue because you are making it one. You only want this guy to go to jail because he is white and you hate whitey. Why you so mad?
Natina didn't say BLACK ISSUES she said specifically AFRICAN AMERICAN ISSUSES. My people aren't black, black is a made up status classification for identity to try and group all my people in here in America, and that was brought up in the 1900's. We are African descent I prefer or African Americans, others prefer, yeah some of my people call themselves black because they don't understand status and classification.
Africans don't consider themselves black because they are not when they come over here they are from sovereign places from Africa and not wards of the state.
But I feel you though, you don't have to give a shit about African descent people's issues, that tells me who you are already and thank you for making that statement.
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Well, you can argue all you want, but in the end its going to be up to the court to decide and I guess we can see what happens then. It's not looking good for the prosecution though. Its not even worth it to try and argue logic with people who always have to resort to "Its racist" or personal insults. My point is pretty much proven.
You're point ain't prove nothing, and see there you go, being delusional with asinine rhetoric saying the prosecution side is not looking good, ummmm well, we shall see won't we? I don't deal with one's personal logic, that's equivalent to opinions which don't say shit in a court of law. I have worked for years in the legal system and logic is inadmissible in a court of law. Facts is pertinent in a case.
They have already put forth that Zimmerman could have avoided this madness that went down, and we shall see how this plays out.
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DAm even Nancy knows Zimmerman is the aggressor and self defense he can't claim,, damm!!!
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jamesedwards
Natina didn't say BLACK ISSUES she said specifically AFRICAN AMERICAN ISSUSES. My people aren't black, black is a made up status classification for identity to try and group all my people in here in America, and that was brought up in the 1900's. We are African descent I prefer or African Americans, others prefer, yeah some of my people call themselves black because they don't understand status and classification.
Africans don't consider themselves black because they are not when they come over here they are from sovereign places from Africa and not wards of the state.
But I feel you though, you don't have to give a shit about African descent people's issues, that tells me who you are already and thank you for making that statement.
lol :) You're welcome.
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George Zimmerman Said “Fucking Cold” or “Fucking Punks” (updated)
LOL well I never got into the coon thing because the audio was bad but you can hear now he is saying punks. Just like someone said on the thread there.
CapitanCaguama 5 pts
"What an irresponsible and worthless journalist is this person. I can't believe that he presents this. First CNN "expert" saying that what you listen in on the tape is cold, when you can clearly hear that there's an s at the end of such word and then, the type of followup he does about the whole story, trying to portrait Trayvon as a criminal."
markranger 53 pts
"George Zimmerman Said “Fucking Cold” or “Fucking Punks” (updated)??? fucking cold.. really, that was considered. This is not upstate new york or the mid-west. People don't typically complain about going to florida and experiencing fucking cold weather. What was it 50s (guess it could be relative)? Sounds like no one is sure what he said."
LOL I don't have to say nothing lol These people are on the right track lol He's definitely not saying cold it doesn't even fit why he would say that anyway. Punks yes because of the situation and as Zimmerman said "THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY" so he deemed them as Punks not a Cold lol . Picture him saying "these fucking colds." lol hahahah With an "S" lol
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Contributing to thread drift....
If you 'trespass' into my home and you don't surrender on demand, you will die.
If you attack or assault my wife or I, in or out of our home, and you don't surrender on demand, you will die.
If you threaten my wife or I, in person, we will attempt to move away from you to ease the situation if possible. If you pursue us, and you don't surrender on demand, you will die.
Oh, and yes... my property is worth much more to me than your life is. Remember that if you try to take it.
I have pulled my gun with intent three times in 20 years. 12 years ago, 7 years ago and Tuesday night.
Tuesday night, I was involved in a near miss traffic incident. Both sides partially at fault... him for speeding and my left turn was in an area with partially obstructed vision. Neither vehicle was damaged, just both of us shook up.
After pulling off the road to clear traffic, I got out to check on the other car and driver. He came running down the road toward me, screaming and cussing at me and swinging what turned out to be a socket wrench at me.
When I pulled my gun, it was just amazing how quickly he calmed down. Suddenly, his 23yo 'tough guy punk' attitude in front of his friends didn't mean as much. Fortunately, there were several witnesses to the entire incident. When the deputy showed up, took the witness statements and such, she told the other driver that he was lucky he wasn't shot and asked me if I wished to press charges.
Guns are not the problem.
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:werd: I agree, do what you have to, to PROTECT your family that is your right.
Yes guns are not the problem people are. Guns don't shoot people, PEOPLE SHOOT PEOPLE!!! I have nothing to say that is wrong with what you said.
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Contributing to thread drift....
If you 'trespass' into my home and you don't surrender on demand, you will die.
If you attack or assault my wife or I, in or out of our home, and you don't surrender on demand, you will die.
If you threaten my wife or I, in person, we will attempt to move away from you to ease the situation if possible. If you pursue us, and you don't surrender on demand, you will die.
Oh, and yes... my property is worth much more to me than your life is. Remember that if you try to take it.
I have pulled my gun with intent three times in 20 years. 12 years ago, 7 years ago and Tuesday night.
Tuesday night, I was involved in a near miss traffic incident. Both sides partially at fault... him for speeding and my left turn was in an area with partially obstructed vision. Neither vehicle was damaged, just both of us shook up.
After pulling off the road to clear traffic, I got out to check on the other car and driver. He came running down the road toward me, screaming and cussing at me and swinging what turned out to be a socket wrench at me.
When I pulled my gun, it was just amazing how quickly he calmed down. Suddenly, his 23yo 'tough guy punk' attitude in front of his friends didn't mean as much. Fortunately, there were several witnesses to the entire incident. When the deputy showed up, took the witness statements and such, she told the other driver that he was lucky he wasn't shot and asked me if I wished to press charges.
Guns are not the problem.
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For people that supports Zimmerman here's the million dollar comment I will make.
You sit here and try to logically show Zimmerman was right in doing what he did and that is he shot and killed an unarmed man.
For you supporters who support him, HOW WOULD YOU REACT IF HE KILLED YOUR CHILD IN THE SAME INCIDENT WITHOUT NOTHING CHANGING AS HE DID TRAYVON?
I know if it was me it wouldn't sit well as roses I would be one angry motha fucka!!!
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do not confront or pursue and expect to use SYG
Teen's Killing Stirs Debate on 'Stand Your Ground' Law - YouTube
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jamesedwards
For people that supports Zimmerman here's the million dollar comment I will make.
You sit here and try to logically show Zimmerman was right in doing what he did and that is he shot and killed an unarmed man.
For you supporters who support him, HOW WOULD YOU REACT IF HE KILLED YOUR CHILD IN THE SAME INCIDENT WITHOUT NOTHING CHANGING AS HE DID TRAYVON?
I know if it was me it wouldn't sit well as roses I would be one angry motha fucka!!!
If it was my kid, I would feel the same way his parents do. And if I was in zimmermans spot, I would of shot him too. And if I was in treyvons spot, I would of ran my ass on home instead of turning around and attacking him.