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When I was 22 me and my friends would go to friend's houses, parties, clubs, and concerts. Escorts were not even considered, we guessed they were just dolled up victims of broken families.
In my thirties I would steal money from my job, go to the strip clubs and then date prostitutes. I found they had a closeness with each other and all knew each other, but they were also competitive with each other. Their careers all ended badly, and I do mean badly. I was afraid to get too close to them.
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Originally Posted by
Wendy Summers
Here's a crazy, kooky thing, but... could both sides be right?
I've stayed out of this topic because it's something I feel somewhat awkward discussing... I should state for the record that unlike 99% of my posts here, I'm being serious with this one.
I do see Kelly's point, but I think the reason I do is I come from a world of privilege that most TSs on the board don't have. I'm white; I'm well educated; on top of my adult entertainment work I function in the corporate world as a manager. I'm a part of mainstream society.
I don't live in the shadows. I don't struggle wondering when I'm going to see my next payday. I have folks who readily accept me as a woman (in fact most folks in my day to day life have zero idea I am a transsexual).
I live a life denied to most transsexuals. I'm both aware of how lucky I have been and grateful for it.
It gave me far different experiences with men. Only ONE of the men I have ever dated knew I was transsexual before they expressed interest in me. I had the chance to know they were into WHO I was long before they knew WHAT I am. That's not to say the men I've dated hadn't had previous experiences with transsexuals -- most had. I've never experienced the "chaser" scenarios most describe because of how I met the men I did. Yet had I met these same men other under circumstances they'd likely meet "chaser" criteria. My situation frames and alters how I view these men.
Take then the perspective of my sisters who do find their best economic option to be an escort. Many times they get a first-hand look at the worst of people. I know that as a webcam girl I've had to learn to create a fabricated intimacy with my fans and it does skew my own ability in my personal life to express true intimacy. I can't fathom the effect that situation would be for the women who do work escorting. I don't escort precisely because I know if I did it, I'd likely be equally as jaded.
The scary thing is... I'm not sure if I simply view the world through rose colored glasses or if those who are more negative towards men have sunglasses on so dark they can't truly see anymore.
My suspicion is that the reality lies somewhere between our perspectives. There are some guys who are good and true and don't deserve the bum rap and that there are some who are bad jerks who do.
My thoughts anyway
ok enough serious shit - I'm back to the jokes.
Great post Wendy!
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Originally Posted by
Jslimnj10
That was a lot of dam threads to read...anyways...me personally i would give anything to date a nice transsexual women...an I do mean date...for how ever long till us both were comfortable with each other. I love sex like the next person but I need more substance when going out with someone...I've like transsexual women for the longest time and I'm only 28. All the ones I've ever met r of the working class..if I wanted that I'd go to ny and visit the tranny clubs....it's so hard to find that down to earth transsexual beauty...if anyone knows where to start please feel free n let me know
How do you win the title of "NJ's #1 bottom"? lol
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Originally Posted by
Tyler___Durden
Really?
It's just a job.
I escort and have been with my man for 3+ years.
I've other ts friends who escort/shoot porn and they are also in long term relationships.
:iagree:
My TS friend is an escort in Japan now shes married to a German guy and now lives in US. Shes always been very loyal to her husband. She dont even hang out with us anymore because she just wants to focus on her husband and take care of him.
Another TS escort friend of mine now married to a Swedish guy and now living in Sweden. Very happy couple.
Another one also now married to a British guy, She will live with him on China soon. Shes also been very faithful to him. Since their relationship she didnt had sex with other guy only with her husband.
And i know many many other TS escort who have relationship and married also now. So many to mention.
Off course all of them stop escorting already
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She has not mentioned the true light of it or explain the factual points to what we consider chaser, or what not.
To us ts women there is much more of a deep rooted feeling with this term as oppose to calling all men who admire ts chasers. She did not mention the abuse we get from chasers, the harassment, the lack of privacy. She plain and simple made it seem like we are the bad ones for not regarding chasers as something significant.
It's all fake to me!
Like what tvman said, i do believe it's for her personal gain for attention.
She speaks out against her own community, even as far as throwing us under the bus just for her reasons. Just for popularity with the boys? For what so she can put a fake facade of ts hater to be personable with the men she hopes to follow her, or to agree with her, and to tell her how great she is for throwing the rest of the ts women under the bus, she admitted it she's ignorant about the lifestyle, so what the hell does she know about chasers?
But hey it's a great way to feed your ego, and to be mentioned on the next who is the hottest ts/tv.
it all seems...
transparent
predictable
selfish
backstabbing
All for popularity vote.. lol...
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Originally Posted by
Nicole Dupre
How do you win the title of "NJ's #1 bottom"? lol
Nicole,
are you saying you want to challenge him for the title? :geek:
Re: Men on dating ts women
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Originally Posted by
EvonRose
She has not mentioned the true light of it or explain the factual points to what we consider chaser, or what not.
To us ts women there is much more of a deep rooted feeling with this term as oppose to calling all men who admire ts chasers. She did not mention the abuse we get from chasers, the harassment, the lack of privacy. She plain and simple made it seem like we are the bad ones for not regarding chasers as something significant.
It's all fake to me!
Like what tvman said, i do believe it's for her personal gain for attention.
She speaks out against her own community, even as far as throwing us under the bus just for her reasons. Just for popularity with the boys? For what so she can put a fake facade of ts hater to be personable with the men she hopes to follow her, or to agree with her, and to tell her how great she is for throwing the rest of the ts women under the bus, she admitted it she's ignorant about the lifestyle, so what the hell does she know about chasers?
But hey it's a great way to feed your ego, and to be mentioned on the next who is the hottest ts/tv.
it all seems...
transparent
predictable
selfish
backstabbing
All for popularity vote.. lol...
Umm yes I did..I said to me the terminology tranny chaser is thrown around too much...
And good grief isn't that terminology outdated yet..how about just calling them cocksuckers??
A trannny chaser to me is someone that is as I stated like Christian who will fuck any tranny just to have the notch on his bed post...but at least Christian owns it..
That's a tranny chaser...
Abuse?? A lot of times that abuse is a reaction from how you treated them....by demeaning them...
I explained that...obviously sweetheart you post opinion..but don't read..
I feel a large amount of the time girls are their own worst enemy...
And for you to deny that..is hilarious to me..
Especially if you have been living your life so long as a transsexual and hung around the transsexual community
I just feel our community is full of "beautiful disasters" that need counseling...
We have wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many assholes...that bring our community down..and I'm speaking about US..not men
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Wendy, I see your point...
However, I am also from a very privilege and famous family! (I wish i could say it i really do, But I can't give them that attention i am afraid it might become big... but take my word for for it)
My family have millions of dollars and many estate business in Asia to this day i am privileged, and very comfortable. When My parents pass even tough we had our share of hardship I will be well taken care of.
I chose to rebel, and go against my family because I was unjustly treated. I wanted to prove i can make a living for myself, and not rely on my dad.
When i ventured on my own at 15-16 i saw the real world of what ts/tv go trough. So I Sympathized with them, and even urged my mom to donate money to new dimension to help the community in San Francisco with transitioning.
My intent is never evil when I say just be careful with chasers, I mean it from the bottom of my heart, I hate to see ts get burned and used I really do. But i don't like it when People make it seem i hate all men into ts, I urge everyone to support the community men and women alike.
That starts with understanding the root, the Kelly lacks... She is bringing more harm than good by saying stupid ignorant things like that. She lack's compassion, and understanding... because she is selfish for her own attention seeking motives.
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Hmmmm, do I suspect a trust fund baby?
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Originally Posted by
EvonRose
Wendy, I see your point...
However, I am also from a very privilege and famous family! (I wish i could say it i really do, But I can't give them that attention i am afraid it might become big... but take my word for for it)
My family have millions of dollars and many estate business in Asia to this day i am privileged, and very comfortable. When My parents pass even tough we had our share of hardship I will be well taken care of.
I chose to rebel, and go against my family because I was unjustly treated. I wanted to prove i can make a living for myself, and not rely on my dad.
When i ventured on my own at 15-16 i saw the real world of what ts/tv go trough. So I Sympathized with them, and even urged my mom to donate money to new dimension to help the community in San Francisco with transitioning.
My intent is never evil when I say just be careful with chasers, I mean it from the bottom of my heart, I hate to see ts get burned and used I really do. But i don't like it when People make it seem i hate all men into ts, I urge everyone to support the community men and women alike.
That starts with understanding the root, the Kelly lacks... She is bringing more harm than good by saying stupid ignorant things like that. She lc's compassion, and understanding... because she is selfish for her own attention seeking motives.
I laughed at all this..
And I'm the Queen of Sheeba..
