Your article explains the freak out: Some lawmakers are trying to impose restrictions on ownership using the development of new technologies as a cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...mart_guns.html
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Your article explains the freak out: Some lawmakers are trying to impose restrictions on ownership using the development of new technologies as a cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...mart_guns.html
The point here is free fuckin’ enterprise, are you for it? Andy Raymond, a gun dealer, simply added some smart guns to his stock. He thought he might turn a buck by selling a few of them...as he has every fucking right to do. And what does he get for his trouble? Death threats to his family. Evidently it’s not okay for an elected State government to pass a law, but it is honkey dory to enforce your personal point of view by illegal means.
If you don’t like New Jersey’s law, don’t fuckin’ go there. Or fight it by legal means e.g. protest, boycott etc. But you’re suggesting it’s perfectly fine to threaten the life of a man’s family just because he’s selling a legal product in a legal venue. You would sacrifice democracy and free enterprise rather than put in some time legally fighting a law that offends your manhood. Tell me you’re drunk.
Danke Shane, Goodbye Shane, I signed up and they thank you and you can forward to family and friends, thanks trish.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
If you're an American see if you can go to the SEX OFFENDER LIST for your state, (maybe your name is there!!!)
Check out the faces. Thousands of them. Vacant Stares.
Something about one death a tragedy, a million deaths a statistic.
The gun-nuts consider themselves true Americans. I have much personal experience with THE BLIND SPOT. It is always directly in front of your face.
I am not suggesting anything. And, I am not defending people that make threats. I only pointed out why the response to the Armatix iP1 hasn't been receptive that much. David Kopel perfectly explains the situation in two articles that were posted back in May on the Washington Post's website. It isn't about being against free enterprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...06/smart-guns/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...in-new-jersey/
Yes, yes the response to the smart gun hasn't been receptive. There's a reason: "lawmakers are trying to impose restrictions on ownership using the development of new technologies as a cover. " Go ahead and not suggest away. LOL
No, you accused me suggesting that it is okay to make death threats. I didn't make that suggestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Please, continue to not suggest Andy's opposition had a reasonable motive for their lunatic reaction. Indeed, why not come right out and tell us their reaction was lunatic?
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Originally Posted by notdrunk
It's more of a loophole than anything else as it doesn't violate anybody's second amendment rights.
Not all the reactions fell on the side of lunatic. Additionally, my first point did say freak out which encompasses craziness too.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Only one handgun on the market that almost costs $2000 would run afoul the Heller ruling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
Please continue to not suggest there's a rational reason to threaten a man's family. Then consider how numerous those crazies are. Andy received so many threatening letters, emails and comments from "freaked out" gun lunatics he decided to cave in and not put his stock of smart guns on the shelves. Should those lunatics even have guns? Should they be allowed to carry firearms hidden on their person? Should this group of "enthusiasts" be encouraged to stand their ground, risk killing someone or being killed rather than retreat to safety and spare the rest of us yet another shoot out? Should people prone to threaten a man's family for selling a legal item in a legal venue be allowed easy access to firearms? Who are they? Can we identify them before we sell them a firearm? What about the even larger group of enthusiasts who applaud their behavior? Can they be trusted with firearms? Here's a relevant thought by Joe Nocera
"But, of course, there is another way of thinking about this. Instead of focusing on making it harder for the mentally ill to get guns, maybe we should be making it harder to get guns, period. Something to consider before the next mass shooting." http://nyti.ms/1mLkaaD
Does it say something about the nature of those fascinated with firearms that a shop I passed yesterday, devoted to replica guns and the like, also featurde Nazi memorabilia, daggers with Nazi symbols emblazoned on them, T shirts about the joy of gunning people down etc....
I think you have spotted something here - never made the connection before. Seems as likely as this newspaper headline
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Originally Posted by Prospero
This.
Those who openly carry are utter assholes, but at least they're not also cowards. Those who carry their guns furtively are too cowardly to show the public the toys they can't be without.
I think you guys are being a little close-minded here, .......
100 million Nazis CAN't be wrong!!
Personally, I draw the line at ALIEN Nazis with machine guns.
Those guys are just beyond rude.
Mutant Nazi Nightmare - An American Werewolf in London (3/10) Movie CLIP (1981) HD - YouTube
Open carry - yes, favour this
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Originally Posted by trish
Saw a great clip on The Colbert Report from Monday night, where they do a spot on an idiot in the Florida Keys who set up a target range in his driveway. The guy is just as thick-headed as can be, firing live ammo in a suburban neighborhood, much to his neighbors' dismay. When you see his parents, you'll know where his stupidity comes from - the apple did not fall far from the tree. I am unable to post the video here from Comedy Central, but go here: http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos then scroll down and look for the clip entitled "Difference Makers: Doug Varrieur" from 6/2/14. Very funny, and a little scary.
A good bit. Thanks.Scarier the closer to Doug you happen to live. Imagine having a school age kid who has to walk past that nut's house everyday on the way to and from school. That his backyard range is apparently legal, demonstrates the laws regulating firearms are way off-kilter and need to be brought back into the realm of sanity.Quote:
Very funny, and a little scary.
I thought that had to be inaccurate...that there would be local ordinances, at the very least, about noise and perhaps distances allowed to fire near a home....but I was wrong. http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/2...r-has-gun.html
Wow.
P.S.....wanna see something scary...check out the poll that's attached to the article.
Hmmm look like there has been ANOTHER shooting at Seattle Pacific University.
Yep. Here we go again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27726855
And in Canada:Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
Gunman who killed 3 officers still on the loose:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/05/world/canada-shooting/
Stewart tore open the assholes of open carry advocates last night, his magazines filled with armor penetrating arguments. See the clips at the following link.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewa...arry-gun-nuts/
I'm pretty much use to the shootings now I mean the NRA is probably the most power lobbyist group in the entire world.
They're hard to get used to when they're in your backyard.
Moreover, how are we to know the asswipe carrying an assault weapon into Starbucks is a good guy with a gun. For all we know his presence is a threat to our lives. If we fear for our lives we have (in some States) every right to stand our ground, pull out our concealed weapons and shoot it out! As Stewart points out: that's why policemen wear uniforms. So they don't have to spend their day saying, "Hey, it's cool__don't be alarmed just 'cause I have a gun__ I'm a good guy with a gun__ I'm a policeman." Even the NRA agreed, until they evidently received enough death threats to change their minds. Now their pointing their tiny little dicks back in the direction of total gun lunacy again.
I just want to tell gun enthusiasts this: Even if you have a tiny dick, you don't need to compensate for it by carrying a firearm. If you don't drop your pants in public, no one will know your dick is tiny. But if you openly carry, everyone will know. If you carry concealed...there's no such thing...we'll still know.
He did....but you know who "killed it" even more than he did?...the young lady in the first clip who called them "dumb asses", because from where I'm sitting, those open carry advocates are geeky nerds with guns...and nothing deflates them more than criticism from the opposite sex...because it's nigh impossible for them to get laid to begin with. It's bad enough that they have to compete with normal folk, but they also have to compete with "real" nerds...you know - the ones who have problems with girls early on during their school years , but who eventually get decent tech jobs and do quite well for themselves...because they're FUCKING INTELLIGENT.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
...whereas these folks are ignorant nerds....and what's the point of existing for an ignorant nerd?
BTW...it might help their argument of self-defense if they actually took the time to learn how to defend themselves without a rifle...or at least just exercise a little bit...you know - show some real discipline. Why do I mention this?...because these guys are pretenders.
Sure - this looks fine in front of a camera traveling in packs...but (just for an example) how well do you think that douche bag in the silly hat would last in an urban neighborhood with his assault rifle (useless in a close-up situation anyway)...all by himself? I'd be willing to bet that thing would get taken away from him with ridiculous ease....and possibly rammed up his ass.
whatever.
Now what was i said the other day here about neo-nazi trappings in a UK army material store.... It now seems the killers in the latest Las Vegas shooting were it seems white supremacists.... Nazis by any other name.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/las-veg...iews-1.2669292
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/the-pub...ture-1.2611483
You will never see "The Smile of Reason" in the US on guns
Not only is he a white supremacist but he also claims to have been one of the militia men who visited Cliven Bundy's ranch. Do you remember Trish getting flack from Kitty for claiming that many of the militia people had views that were tightly correlated with racism. It may be a little bit preliminary, but these two were paranoid, anti-government folks with guns...who thought Obama was trying to take their liberty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Two bad guys with guns took out two good guys with guns and some without. What's going wrong here? This ain't the way the NRA told us it would be.
People know I hate conspiracy theories...but....it seems lately that a lot of "militia" type attacks on law enforcement have taken place lately. The Nevada event is just one...you also have this, for instance....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...thouse-assault.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
Marx was a member of the "Sovereign Citizens Movement"....LE is constantly on the alert for these dirtbags...they have targeted cops making traffic stops, courthouses,...etc.
..fucking wastes of oxygen...their parents should have aborted.
Thom Hartmann: Why Don't They call it Domestic Terror?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFkahUZ2xY8
I just want to point out there is sort of a coalescence of the Bundy Rancher stance and the gun issue. You have people who claim that any regulation they disagree with they will oppose with violence. They also say that even lawful means of enforcing lawful acts of government will be interpreted as violence and met with their own violence (theirs being unlawful of course).
We've heard the loud talk but this is the operational component that would naturally tend to complement the rhetoric.
If any of this doesn't make sense it's because my sleeping pill kicked in just before I started writing.
I wrote Fred41 a pm on a sleeping pill one time and his response was very nice....but it didn't have my original message on it (and I don't have a sent box apparently)....so although I was sincere in what I said I can't quite remember it. My screen is literally moving....don't worry ladies and gents these are legally prescribed pills use at the proper dose...time for bed. lol
Edit: I wanted to show the video even if it disturbs people to hear the massmurdering bigot speak, it provides some evidence of his involvement in the Bundy movement.
Post it.
Hmm...If it's what I think it was....it had something to do with Gene Rosen..the guy who, during the Sandy Hook massacre, claimed he took in some of the children and listened to their stories...http://nypost.com/2012/12/17/newtown...acher-is-dead/Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
...lol...those must be some good pills.
That was it! Sometimes they kick in before I think they will. And of course I will have started doing something and they catch me by surprise. I just remember that was the other time that happened while I was writing. Suppose I need to take them, and go to bed. Anyhow, sorry for the digression.;Quote:
Originally Posted by fred41
Not a sleeping pill gal. My habit is to have two fingers of a single malt scotch before bed (and contrary to what the connoisseurs will tell you__I like it with a cube or two of ice). Also I try not to think about guns, politics (and definitely not math or physics if I want to sleep) right before bedtime. I prefer to have some nighttime nooky, if my man's in town (he lives and works 90 miles away). Barring that, I'll pull up a nice video clip and masturbate. Doesn't take long to drift off to dreamland after that.
So I did that last night and this morning I wake up to the horrid and stupid reality that still plagues this nation. Gerrymandering and Citizens United has given control of this nation's legislatures to whomever can buy it. The NRA lobby is one of the most influential. Polls indicate that people want sensible firearm regulation. Between 35% to 40% of households own a firearm (down from over 50% two decades ago). What we have is nation where a most people would rather not mess with firearms, while a minority (mostly mislead simpletons or white supremacists or both) is stockpiling their own personal arsenals and threatening violence against any authority that would enforce laws with which they disagree. Oh, and they like to call themselves patriots. What a crock!
That's why, when night draws on and it's time to hit the sack, I pour myself a drink, put on some seductive music, a skanky negligee and create a little diversion.
Mmmm...ho hum...another shooting today at a high school in the Portland, OR area. *YAWN* What's for lunch?
Here's a nice little video of what happens when some people phone the police for help..
It also includes a segment where I guy (undercover ex cop) tried to get a complaint form from several police departments.. often getting arrested..
One guy was in an accident, badly injured and burnt when police showed up after he phoned for help.. They tazered him repeatedly and then shot him to death.. the 2 cops were cleared of all charges..
Caution this video is very graphic and disturbing..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmGWLsn0iM
There is something very wrong with the system in the USA.. If I was an american I would seriously consider leaving the country..
I will never visit the USA.. it's far to dangerous..