Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

As if that has stopped the ~45,000 people annually from dying from second hand smoke. As if any laws regulating cigarettes actually stops children and youths from gaining access to them and smoking them anyway. As if any forms of prohibition have EVER worked in this nation without inducing a WAVE of black market and Mafia style criminal activity and illegal trafficking and higher rates of violence and crime. Ban all the guns you want but remember what the alcohol prohibition did. A black market for it was formed, run by violent and murderous mobsters. The banning of these guns will only take them from the law abiding citizens and the only people able to access them will be the criminals who will utilize these black markets to access them and then use them against said now disarmed law abiding citizens and the police and government regardless.

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I thought America still had loads of places in prohibiton, a lot are tottally "dry" to this day ?

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Not a fan of the Daily Mail but this is a good re-cap of everything and designed of course to pull at your heart for the senseless loss of these people's lives caused by ONE NUTCASE and the ability for him to access MULTIPLE ASSAULT TYPE WEAPONS. Shame on those who support the purchase of these types of guns. You are fools buying into paranoia and the industries that create it, to profit from you. Shame on you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-massacre.html

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Shame on me for buying "assault type weapons"? Just because one retard goes out and murders people, does not mean the hundreds of thousands of gun owners who possess "assault type weapons" will go out and mass murder people. I enjoy how all of you anti-gun people here will blatantly ignore everything I show you, including FBI and CDC data reports and horrifying video footage of your beloved, completely trusting authorities to ensure your personal security at any given second. While some scumbag is knocking down your door to murder you and your children and you dial for 911 because you are unarmed and then wait ten minutes for the police to arrive, at my home, said scumbag has been dead for 10 minutes before the police arrive and me and my family are safe and unharmed. In addition to that, said idiot and inefficient basket-weaving trained police cannot be any more trusted with "assault type weapons" than any other citizen. Just because the idiot has a badge, does not imply he has a brain.

The gun I hold in my image, is my security from crime and government. It is my hobby, sport, personal past-time and my insurance against dangers foreign and domestic, civilian or government authority. Anyone who would bend over to the authority of the government and expect total safety of you physically and the safety of your rights and gladly surrender your arms to them, is not worthy of any protection or freedom at all. We cannot trust any government, especially ones like the United States, who have long used its power across the globe to fuck up countries for the sake of profit and destroy its own civilian populous in the name of capitalism and corporate greed. Owning a gun is no more dangerous than not owning one and leaving all your security in the hands of a totally inept government.

Hot photo Kitti but yes, shame on you.
You're going to use that gun to defend your house from intruders? You couldn't get it around the doorways? What can that do to defend your house that a pistol couldn't? You'd be in more danger of having it taken off you.

Seriously, your rhetoric here doesn't sound unlike some of these people who goes "off the rails".

Isn't this the same corporate greed that's feeding your fears and selling you weapons which are clearly more than for simple self-defensive or hunting?

Loved your post Kitty.:kiss:

If gun controll works, then why is Chicago, which is in the State of Illinois (which has some of if not the most restrictive gun laws in the country) one of the most dangerous cities in the country? And the States of California and New York aren't exactly Second Ammendment friendly and they're national leaders in firearm related homicides.

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

Shame on me for buying "assault type weapons"? Just because one retard goes out and murders people, does not mean the hundreds of thousands of gun owners who possess "assault type weapons" will go out and mass murder people. I enjoy how all of you anti-gun people here will blatantly ignore everything I show you, including FBI and CDC data reports and horrifying video footage of your beloved, completely trusting authorities to ensure your personal security at any given second. While some scumbag is knocking down your door to murder you and your children and you dial for 911 because you are unarmed and then wait ten minutes for the police to arrive, at my home, said scumbag has been dead for 10 minutes before the police arrive and me and my family are safe and unharmed. In addition to that, said idiot and inefficient basket-weaving trained police cannot be any more trusted with "assault type weapons" than any other citizen. Just because the idiot has a badge, does not imply he has a brain.

The gun I hold in my image, is my security from crime and government. It is my hobby, sport, personal past-time and my insurance against dangers foreign and domestic, civilian or government authority. Anyone who would bend over to the authority of the government and expect total safety of you physically and the safety of your rights and gladly surrender your arms to them, is not worthy of any protection or freedom at all. We cannot trust any government, especially ones like the United States, who have long used its power across the globe to fuck up countries for the sake of profit and destroy its own civilian populous in the name of capitalism and corporate greed. Owning a gun is no more dangerous than not owning one and leaving all your security in the hands of a totally inept government.

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Whoa!

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

Shame on me for buying "assault type weapons"? Just because one retard goes out and murders people, does not mean the hundreds of thousands of gun owners who possess "assault type weapons" will go out and mass murder people. I enjoy how all of you anti-gun people here will blatantly ignore everything I show you, including FBI and CDC data reports and horrifying video footage of your beloved, completely trusting authorities to ensure your personal security at any given second. While some scumbag is knocking down your door to murder you and your children and you dial for 911 because you are unarmed and then wait ten minutes for the police to arrive, at my home, said scumbag has been dead for 10 minutes before the police arrive and me and my family are safe and unharmed. In addition to that, said idiot and inefficient basket-weaving trained police cannot be any more trusted with "assault type weapons" than any other citizen. Just because the idiot has a badge, does not imply he has a brain.

The gun I hold in my image, is my security from crime and government. It is my hobby, sport, personal past-time and my insurance against dangers foreign and domestic, civilian or government authority. Anyone who would bend over to the authority of the government and expect total safety of you physically and the safety of your rights and gladly surrender your arms to them, is not worthy of any protection or freedom at all. We cannot trust any government, especially ones like the United States, who have long used its power across the globe to fuck up countries for the sake of profit and destroy its own civilian populous in the name of capitalism and corporate greed. Owning a gun is no more dangerous than not owning one and leaving all your security in the hands of a totally inept government.

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Look forward to you taking on the US government alone with your one gun.

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Originally Posted by shaustin

?..I never ONCE mentioned the 2nd amendment at all, let alone made any theory that it was intended to allow citizen's to attack the military. I simply reiterated what the founding fathers themselves wrote down in the Declaration of Independence...

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Good., then we agree the Declaration is irrelevant to the issue of gun regulation...though it's odd then that you would bring it up in this discussion.

Kitty Kaiti - the Timothy McVeigh of Hungangels.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

No one is talking about a BAN on firearms, but unfortunately that's all you gun lovers ever hear in these convos.

It's about enacting common sense restrictions on gun sales and ammo. No person realistically needs a 30+ round magazine clip. Buying a gun shouldn't be easier than obtaining a driver's license.

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I'm all for 'common sense' restrictions, and I think you are for them too.

BUT, plenty of politicians who call themselves 'gun control' are really 'gun ban'. Until recent Supreme Court decisions, the City of Chicago outlawed the possession of a gun in the home. Everywhere in Illinois, the State that Chicago is in, they have outlawed the possession of a gun in public.

Washington, D.C. also outlawed the possession of guns in the home. Even for those people who were employed as Special Police Officers and were armed at work, protecting federal employees.

New York City supposedly allows gun permits, but you pretty much have to be a friend of the Mayor or another politician to get one. The fees are extremely high and the application looks like something a potential vice presidential candidate would submit for vetting. Which gives the City plenty of reasons to turn you down. It's a virtual ban.

(If you'd like to look up the stuff about Chicago and D.C., the Supreme Court decisions are McDonald vs. Chicago and D.C. vs Heller.)

The 'gun rights' people have reason to not trust the supposed 'gun control' folks, who have shown by their actions that they are really want to see 'gun bans'.

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BUT, plenty of politicians who call themselves 'gun control' are really 'gun ban'.

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So what? That is not a reason to oppose reasonable regulation. In point of fact Illinois does not ban guns. You can have them in your home, you can carry them on the street, you can rack them in your car, take them here and take them far. What you can't do in Illinois (yet) is carry them concealed. I applaud Illinois for last bit of boldness. Banning concealed carry is not (as some would falsely describe it) a total ban on guns.