Grooby Legal Action against Piracy ...

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Originally Posted by timxxx

I don't think Grooby(unlike Time Warner & Motion Picture Association of America, etc) are trying to get rid piracy,they and their lawyers are just trying to shakedown a few Joe Blows,who would rather pay up than have their names publicly associated with 'deviant' tranny porn.

If you are the kind of person who won't submit to legal blackmail or you just don't give a fuck about being 'tarnished' with the stigma of wacking off to sicko tranny porn.You would probably not end up in court or paying them anything.

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Oh no, we'd LOVE to get rid of piracy. In the few days the file lockers have been down we've seen traffic rise and since we've started a very aggressive approach against piracy, DMCA'ing over 30,000 links a month and making it as difficult as possible for people to find our content, sales have held as well as we could expect.

The end-user litigation we've brought against people is just part of our legal action - we've served papers on a number of US individuals directly whom we have overwhelming evidence of sharing our files and if they don't appear in court, they will have the judgement ruled against them automatically (watch this space).

As I stated though, we'd love to get rid of piracy so we could concentrate on what we like doing best which is producing and marketing TS porn and all that goes with it.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Hmmm ... if it's a lost cause then how come we're WINNING! ?
You've not idea how many sites we've taken down ... but don't let your idiotic posting stop you from taking a stand ... go back to other sites, not grooby websites.

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Hmmmm isn't ashemaletube spankwire xvideos and shit load of forums still up were you can go watch and download shit yea really winning and just cause you take down one site or a few sites like I said how many go up when you take those down ?? You can't answer that can you but keep fighting your lil fight against free speech and freedom cause it's going nowhere

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Originally Posted by bart87

Hmmmm isn't ashemaletube spankwire xvideos and shit load of forums still up were you can go watch and download shit yea really winning and just cause you take down one site or a few sites like I said how many go up when you take those down ?? You can't answer that can you but keep fighting your lil fight against free speech and freedom cause it's going nowhere

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How much of our content do you see on those tube sites you mentioned?
I'm all for free speech and freedom, so don't be a douche trying to bring that in. Theft has nothing to do with limiting free speech.
What's your address? I want to use my freedom of speech to come around and steal your property.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

How much of our content do you see on those tube sites you mentioned?
I'm all for free speech and freedom, so don't be a douche trying to bring that in. Theft has nothing to do with limiting free speech.
What's your address? I want to use my freedom of speech to come around and steal your property.

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Hmmmm ALOT you also gotta ask your self when someone puts a video of your stuff up on those tube sites how many people download it and put it on forums or share it with there friends b4 you have those tube sites take it down ???

And yea you really can't answer how many sites go up when you take down a few of those site there already is another site like megavideo and oh okay your for freedom and free speech your just not for internet freedom I get it.

And no you can't come steal my shit cause I never stole any of your videos or pics I downloaded them all when I WAS a member of your site.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

When those who champion failed paradigms lose their dominance, they always resort to force instead of new thinking. In this case, it's legal force, but it's force nonetheless.

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I like that, who wrote it?
Kinda like saying using a 20th century solution to a 21st century problem.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Can you do both?

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Yes of course. It would certainly be better to try to come up with new business models that provide revenue than to rely solely on litigion. I think sites that make money selling stolen stuff should be taken down and the owners prosecuted, and I'm never going to argue against that. What I fear is that the sheer scale of the issue, in terms of the numbers of people who download copyrighted material for their own use, will mean that again and again we'll see the mushroom effect, that the more sites are taken down, the more will spring up, and as I said before, people will end up paying fortunes to lawyers to play whack-a-mole. The obvious comparisons are with the drug trade and prostitution; in both cases huge amounts of money are invested in criminalising both the purveyors and the users, to very little effect.

Basically, copyright is a print-era way of thinking. In the internet era, people are growing used to getting content for free. Quite often, as in the case of the web browser I'm using, this is quite legal and the intended use of the designers of the software. But the culture of free access is promoted on the back of that, and it is not a tide that can be turned back.

I don't know what the solution is, or are, since there will have to be many. But the quicker we start coming up with them the better.:shrug

You know what this is gonna sound crazy as hell but maby just maby if you didn't give people the option to download videos off of your site they wouldn't turn up on tube sites or forums

Umm so what would he be selling, exactly? A watchable stream can be saved to the local computer and subsequently redistributed. This may take a little bit of know-how when protection is in place to stop that, but it can always be done.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16658923

I'm not sure this thread--since it deals specifically with Grooby's actions--is the best place for this, but WTF. This article carries a lot of sense.

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Originally Posted by bart87

You know what this is gonna sound crazy as hell but maby just maby if you didn't give people the option to download videos off of your site they wouldn't turn up on tube sites or forums

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Why shouldn't members be able to download and enjoy the content? In principle I'd support a DRM system where only the downloader could watch the content and it would be impossible to share but there isn't a good system that fits the bill right now.