Men on dating ts women

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Originally Posted by mathematics1900

No New Zealand, is there a lot of animal sex in Texas too?

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That explains the sheep.

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That explains the sheep.

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Lol, baiting my little toy is so fun!

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Originally Posted by mathematics1900

I hate to throw a wrench into your theory, but men can get their dicks hard to fuck goats, dogs, dolphins, and even men when they themselves aren't homosexual. There is a lot we don't know about the mechanisms of the brain and to argue about gender to me is really a moot point, most tgirls on here want to be called women, but they unfortunately don't fit into that box. There is a check list in everyone's mind and you might hit 9 of 10 check marks, but unless you hit all 10 you're not admitted. This is why I liked that another tgirl on here suggested when people clock her in public, she acknowledges that yes, I am a tgirl, no I am not a genetic girl. This in my opinion is the first step in changing how accepted tgirls are in the mainstream, the sad fact though is that the gay community think they are somehow better, and the lesbian community, oh shit, don't get me started. It is an underlying issue in our society that doesn't have anything to do with sexuality, or who you are, it is a bigger idea than that, the idea that human beings are still so cruel to each other.


So you never took any hormones?

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I take them now, but I take low dosages because my estro levels get too high too easily; half of what most girls are taking who actually see a doctor. Btw, for whatever reason, girls who self medicate almost ALWAYS over-do it. I take a fraction of what I've heard girls who self-medicate are taking.

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Originally Posted by mathematics1800

So glad you brought this up, this actually happens with people who take T-roids. Professional athletes are privy to doctors who monitor their liver and blood, but people who are forced to self-medicate under the table usually run the risk of damaging their body. An interesting part of this is if you observe the rather muscular definition of most black men, turns out they naturally have a higher testosterone level which is the cause for this added level of definition. However, how much more testosterone? Something minuscule like .15%.

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I go to Callen-Lorde in Manhattan, and they know their shit. They had to basically teach my Florida doctor what the deal was with prescribing HRT for M2F transsexuals.

There's really no point in going overboard if you know that you're well within the range of what you'd want to be. My skin can only get so soft. It's not like my dick's going to invert itself from taking 'mones. lol

Speaking of hormones... I am going trough what I call my time of the month...

I have a headache, Fatigue, and it's my third day of craving chocolate cake and hot cocoa...I am also very moody...

So this is something men still have to deal with when being with a ts woman.

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Originally Posted by mathematics1800

LMAO!



I thought PMS was a myth?

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Hahaha only for the ones who don't want to deal with it....

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Hahaha only for the ones who don't want to deal with it....

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lol You have to embrace your inner bitch. :)

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Speaking of hormones... I am going trough what I call my time of the month...

I have a headache, Fatigue, and it's my third day of craving chocolate cake and hot cocoa...I am also very moody...

So this is something men still have to deal with when being with a ts woman.

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I have chronic pms lol

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

lol You have to embrace your inner bitch. :)

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LMAO. Post of the week.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

lol You have to embrace your inner bitch. :)

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Nicole I think you and I are known for that... loll

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Nicole I think you and I are known for that... loll

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Who? Me? lol

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Who? Me? lol

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I prefer outspoke, smart, and educated?

But what do you expect when you argue with puny brained people... Lol.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

I prefer outspoke, smart, and educated?

But what do you expect when you argue with puny brained people... Lol.

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I enjoy good conversation. If I can't be honest, I won't even bother. And I'm not a cruel person unless I feel that I'm dealing with someone who's insensitive anyway. Often, I'm too nice. But the flip side of that coin is, I don't take shit. And I can't STAND liars. And I'm not ashamed of myself; if I fuck up, I acknowledge it. I won't try to cover it up. I apologize. But a lot of people are too egotistical to do that. Personally, I don't have to be right. I like learning things that I don't know. That's why I like talking to people. As long as they're pleasant.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

I enjoy good conversation. If I can't be honest, I won't even bother. And I'm not a cruel person unless I feel that I'm dealing with someone who's insensitive anyway. Often, I'm too nice. But the flip side of that coin is, I don't take shit. And I can't STAND liars. And I'm not ashamed of myself; if I fuck up, I acknowledge it. I won't try to cover it up. I apologize. But a lot of people are too egotistical to do that. Personally, I don't have to be right. I like learning things that I don't know. That's why I like talking to people. As long as they're pleasant.

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I don't like to be underestimated, and for my looks or age to be the reason people think I'm not smart enough...

I just hate liars, fake, and rude people... Im right with ya.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

I enjoy good conversation. If I can't be honest, I won't even bother. And I'm not a cruel person unless I feel that I'm dealing with someone who's insensitive anyway. Often, I'm too nice. But the flip side of that coin is, I don't take shit. And I can't STAND liars. And I'm not ashamed of myself; if I fuck up, I acknowledge it. I won't try to cover it up. I apologize. But a lot of people are too egotistical to do that. Personally, I don't have to be right. I like learning things that I don't know. That's why I like talking to people. As long as they're pleasant.

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Blimey Nicole. You may be in the wrong place.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Well I have always been taught to investigate as oppose to disagreeing with something blindly...

It does not take a genius to read for example Mary Magdalen who is a historic figure mention Jesus's life with her's, and then for scholars, and historians to prove that indeed she did exist. And this Jesus she mentioned in her life had also been involved with other prophets, and certain historical events int he bible proven true by scholars and Historians...

So the only question you have to answer is who is this person they mention or called jesus?

Obviously it's one answer.... It Jesus...

Saying he does not exist doe snot add up to the historic evidence many both religious and non religious people provided, There not been a strong argument that he didn't exist.

I gave you names so you can look up the documents yourself... Here is a starter

Cornelius Tacitus
Tacitus lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as the greatest historian of Rome, noted for his integrity and moral uprightness. His most famous works are the Annals and the Histories. The Annals relate the historical narrative from Augustus’ death in A.D.14 to Nero’s death in A.D. 68. The Histories begin their narrative after Nero’s death and finish with Domitian’s death in A.D. 96. In his section describing Nero’s decision to blame the fire of Rome on the Christians, Tacitus affirms that the founder of Christianity, a man he calls Chrestus (a common misspelling of Christ, which was Jesus’ surname), was executed by Pilate, the procurator of Judea during the reign of the Roman emperor Tiberias. Tacitus was hostile to Christianity because in the same paragraph he describes Christus’ or Christ’s death, he describes Christianity as a pernicious superstition. It would have therefore been in his interests to declare that Jesus had never existed, but he did not, and perhaps he did not because he could not without betraying the historical record.

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Your reference to Tacitus (who is well known) and the virtually unknown Mara Bar-Sapion are - at best - specious. Both require a real stretch of imagination (which undoubtedly is easier for a self-professed christian) to interpret as being evidence of Jesus Christ.

Further the argument that 'Chrestus' is a 'last name' is absurd. Jesus would have been Yeshua ben Yosef (Jesus son of Joseph, if you will). Christ is a title as in Messiah and has no relation to this 'last name' Chrestus.

Granted I've never heard of Mara Bar-Sapion but will try to find the interpretation of the letter he wrote. Based on the info I've read so far the reference he made is rather oblique 'What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise king? It was just after that their kingdom was abolished.' Well, the letter was purportedly written just after 73AD which incidentally happens to be just 3 years after the destruction of the Second Temple so clearly he is referencing the destruction of the temple but oddly enough the Jews didn't kill any of their kings within recent memory of the destruction of the temple. And Jews didn't refer to Jesus as a king at all. Even your Bible doesn't state that Jesus was killed by the Jews - that would have been Pontius Pilate who ordered his death. Stranger still that, while records have been found of Pilate's deeds, the execution of a king wasn't among them.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Your reference to Tacitus (who is well known) and the virtually unknown Mara Bar-Sapion are - at best - specious. Both require a real stretch of imagination (which undoubtedly is easier for a self-professed christian) to interpret as being evidence of Jesus Christ.

Further the argument that 'Chrestus' is a 'last name' is absurd. Jesus would have been Yeshua ben Yosef (Jesus son of Joseph, if you will). Christ is a title as in Messiah and has no relation to this 'last name' Chrestus.

Granted I've never heard of Mara Bar-Sapion but will try to find the interpretation of the letter he wrote. Based on the info I've read so far the reference he made is rather oblique 'What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise king? It was just after that their kingdom was abolished.' Well, the letter was purportedly written just after 73AD which incidentally happens to be just 3 years after the destruction of the Second Temple so clearly he is referencing the destruction of the temple but oddly enough the Jews didn't kill any of their kings within recent memory of the destruction of the temple. And Jews didn't refer to Jesus as a king at all. Even your Bible doesn't state that Jesus was killed by the Jews - that would have been Pontius Pilate who ordered his death. Stranger still that, while records have been found of Pilate's deeds, the execution of a king wasn't among them.

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I'm sorry who is closed minded here?

Who said a Christian can't be liberal? Or can't study other aspects?

Dont' be bigot we can do many things any regular atheists or liberals can. they just have limits.

I never professed to be a christian, I said I had a relationship with god, and was born protestant but never claimed to be practicing it.

The belief wether the he king, or god's son is arguable... But there is hard evidence in historic documents that he existed.

If you discredit him, you discredit every historic figure that mentions him...

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

I'm sorry who is closed minded here?

Who said a Christian can't be liberal? Or can't study other aspects?

Dont' be bigot we can do many things any regular atheists or liberals can. they just have limits.

I never professed to be a christian, I said I had a relationship with god, and was born protestant but never claimed to be practicing it.

The belief wether the he king, or god's son is arguable... But there is hard evidence in historic documents that he existed.

If you discredit him, you discredit every historic figure that mentions him...

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Someone who believes in 'something' isn't prone to being objective about evidence which doesn't support that 'something'. That is common sense. Were you to proclaim yourself agnostic then I might be more inclined to see you as objective in regard to religious matters.

As far as discrediting historical figures - where those figures aren't historical fiction then their writings should be considered like anything else and open to critique like anything else. I'm not often in agreement with Kelly's musings but she made a good point about taking things within the context of which they are written and not superimposing our own beliefs onto them.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Someone who believes in 'something' isn't prone to being objective about evidence which doesn't support that 'something'. That is common sense. Were you to proclaim yourself agnostic then I might be more inclined to see you as objective in regard to religious matters.

As far as discrediting historical figures - where those figures aren't historical fiction then their writings should be considered like anything else and open to critique like anything else. I'm not often in agreement with Kelly's musings but she made a good point about taking things within the context of which they are written and not superimposing our own beliefs onto them.

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Well that theory implies with the bible as well, I't not like you guys read the historic facts. You just can't get over the supernatural discussions in it...

So read things in context... If you do you will find that the bible is filled that documents Jesus life...

Like I said documents to ones belief can be a document fact in itself,

Where do you think documents of queen Nefertiti came from? Egyptians

Juluis Ceasar? Romans
Alexander the great? Greeks
Jesus? Christians...

Of course your going to agree with Kelly, just as people who believe Jesus's life existence will side with me... But I go by the documents written in History and until you can prove otherwise I'm convinced Jesus was at one point a living, breathing, flesh and blood human.

Half the historic figures we know of we don't even know when they were born, when they actually died, where their tombs, or burial place is. We only have documents in the region and the time they were in. You can't discredit thousands of documents, you simply just can't without proving all of those as fiction.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Well that theory implies with the bible as well, I't not like you guys read the historic facts. You just can't get over the supernatural discussions in it...

So read things in context... If you do you will find that the bible is filled that documents Jesus life...

Like I said documents to ones belief can be a document fact in itself,

Where do you think documents of queen Nefertiti came from? Egyptians

Juluis Ceasar? Romans
Alexander the great? Greeks
Jesus? Christians...

Of course your going to agree with Kelly, just as people who believe Jesus's life existence will side with me... But I go by the documents written in History and until you can prove otherwise I'm convinced Jesus was at one point a living, breathing, flesh and blood human.

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Haha.....nice try.......Christians are a religious sect who owe their existence to the story of Jesus. There are no christians without the story of Jesus. Romans exist without Caesar, Egyptians without Nefertiti, and indeed Greeks without Alexander (any easy one that since the Macedonians maintain he's not Greek!)

............I think you're you getting tired.....I can feel you wavering :)

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Haha.....nice try.......Christians are a religious sect who owe their existence to the story of Jesus. There are no christians without the story of Jesus. Romans exist without Caesar, Egyptians without Nefertiti, and indeed Greeks without Alexander (any easy one that since the Macedonians maintain he's not Greek!)

............I think you're you getting tired.....I can feel you wavering :)

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So explain the Jews who have written documents of Jesus, or the Roman, egyptians, Macedonians, Muslims, all of the middle east region and many part of the Mediterranean including Asia Minor, Rome, Greece? I mean even enemies of Jesus?

Are they also crazy people who cannot live without Jesus?

So your points are a bit Biased. Open your Horizon brother then maybe you can appear smarter..

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

So explain the Jews who have written documents of Jesus, or the Roman, egyptians, Macedonians, Muslims, all of the middle east region and many part of the Mediterranean including Asia Minor, Rome, Greece? I mean even enemies of Jesus?

Are they also crazy people who cannot live without Jesus?

So your points are a bit Biased. Open your Horizon brother then maybe you can appear smarter..

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I explained that - read back a few pages..

It's all hearsay

How did dating go into religion? lol

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

I explained that - read back a few pages..

It's all hearsay

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The documented crucifixion was made public Christian, Jews, and The Roman all witnessed it...

And a timeline from his birth documents to his teachings to his death all put him there are all accurate, The only argument anyone came up with is it's circumstantial. Which many historians find hard to believe.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

So explain the Jews who have written documents of Jesus, or the Roman?

Are they also crazy people who cannot live without Jesus?

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Your quoted Roman source is Tacitus and I already addressed that. I would have expected you to quote Josephus too but he;s also been widely discredited because he was writing many years after the supposed death of Jesus and was writing based on things he heard rather than had seen.

As far as writings about Jesus in the accepted Jewish texts of the period - I don't think there are any unless you want to go back to quoting New Testament texts since many were written by Jews who had announced for Christianity.

If Jesus - as defined in the New Testament - was real and the acts he performed were real then we should also accept the teachings of Horus, Mithras, Gilgamesh, Krishna, Zoroaster, Quetzalcoatl among others. According to those who believe they too performed miracles and have had much written about them.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Your quoted Roman source is Tacitus and I already addressed that. I would have expected you to quote Josephus too but he;s also been widely discredited because he was writing many years after the supposed death of Jesus and was writing based on things he heard rather than had seen.

As far as writings about Jesus in the accepted Jewish texts of the period - I don't think there are any unless you want to go back to quoting New Testament texts since many were written by Jews who had announced for Christianity.

If Jesus - as defined in the New Testament - was real and the acts he performed were real then we should also accept the teachings of Horus, Mithras, Gilgamesh, Krishna, Zoroaster, Quetzalcoatl among others. According to those who believe they too performed miracles and have had much written about them.

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You obviously can't comprehend but that's okay... I will guide you trough...

All the supernatural occurrences could be made up.

But that does not prove he didn't exist as a human.

People said the count Dracula, was a satanic person and did rituals and sorcery. But he still existed even tough many of those claims were embellished...

The Greek Gods were a huge part of Ancient Greece does that mean they are real too cause they are very documented too. lol

Plus a lot of the things in the Bible were similar to religions of past civilizations. Just cause it was in a book or in art or whatever. Doesn't prove it was real. Just prove it was a part of their culture.

There is plenty of things we will never truly know about the world. As George Carlin once said we are part of a cycle that started billion of years ago and it keep rolling, rolling along.

In the end, some questions will never be answered. Plus the more answers we do find, the more questions come up.

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Originally Posted by italianamerican25

The Greek Gods were a huge part of Ancient Greece does that mean they are real too cause they are very documented too. lol

Plus a lot of the things in the Bible were similar to religions of past civilizations. Just cause it was in a book or in art or whatever. Doesn't prove it was real. Just prove it was a part of their culture.

There is plenty of things we will never truly know about the world. As George Carlin once said we are part of a cycle that started billion of years ago and it keep rolling, rolling along.

In the end, some questions will never be answered. Plus the more answers we do find, the more questions come up.

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That's what I said about the Greek Gods lol

She doesn't listen to reason cause her belief blinds her..

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Originally Posted by italianamerican25

The Greek Gods were a huge part of Ancient Greece does that mean they are real too cause they are very documented too. lol

Plus a lot of the things in the Bible were similar to religions of past civilizations. Just cause it was in a book or in art or whatever. Doesn't prove it was real. Just prove it was a part of their culture.

There is plenty of things we will never truly know about the world. As George Carlin once said we are part of a cycle that started billion of years ago and it keep rolling, rolling along.

In the end, some questions will never be answered. Plus the more answers we do find, the more questions come up.

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Greek gods were by history immortals...

Jesus was mortal....

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Greek gods were by history immortals...

Jesus was mortal....

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Who came back from the dead? lol

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

That's what I said about the Greek Gods lol

She doesn't listen to reason cause her belief blinds her..

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The way I see it, she has the right to believe what she wants. Just like we have the right to question it.

It makes things interesting how people take in the information they gain. Doesn't matter what the topic is.. Religion, Politics, or anything this world has to offer. haha

This thread just proves that religion along with politics are two subjects many people don't like to talk about. haha

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

That's what I said about the Greek Gods lol

She doesn't listen to reason cause her belief blinds her..

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Ah no I'm pretty aware the possibility of a mortal man who was mistaken as a god did happen, But that still means he still existed.

If you want to discredit Jesus fine...

But that still leaves the question that someone was crucified named jesus, was tortured and killed. Pilates who is a proven historic figure, while thousands of people watched in public with written documents...

Try to prove that historic event wrong..

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Originally Posted by italianamerican25

Who came back from the dead? lol

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There is no hard evidence he came back from the dead...

Possibly body was stolen, or reburied... I am talking in basis of reality here... I'm not speaking of supernatural...

Someone once told me don't believe everything you read. That's why people will always question certain things in life. We have this thing called free will. Everyone is going to have a different opinion, insight or belief in any subject.

This thread is just proving how that works. :)

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Originally Posted by italianamerican25

The way I see it, she has the right to believe what she wants. Just like we have the right to question it.

It makes things interesting how people take in the information they gain. Doesn't matter what the topic is.. Religion, Politics, or anything this world has to offer. haha

This thread just proves that religion along with politics are two subjects many people don't like to talk about. haha

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It's not even religion! Just because one states King Herrod existed (with he did proven documents) That doesn't make him a jewish person but a person of facts.

Seems hat your the close minded ones, resorting or concluding everything to be religious or a belief.

Like I said prove the thousand of documents wrong, if you can't then you really have not much stance but to disagree... But you can't disprove anything.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

There is no hard evidence he came back from the dead...

Possibly body was stolen, or reburied... I am talking in basis of reality here... I'm not speaking of supernatural...

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So basically like many people, you take what you want out of the book and say it's true. lol

Just like many people out there in the world. How nice. :)

Whatever works for you. It's just like with the possibility of there being a god or a creator of all this. I always say, I am not saying there is one, or there is not one. I don't know, none of us truly knows.

We are still learning about life to this day. And will continue to learn more til we are not here anymore. It's amazing what we did find over the years (and the advances we made). Makes you wonder what human will find in the future.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

It's not even religion! Just because one states King Herrod existed (with he did proven documents) That doesn't make him a jewish person but a person of facts.

Seems hat your the close minded ones, resorting or concluding everything to be religious or a belief.

Like I said prove the thousand of documents wrong, if you can't then you really have not much stance but to disagree... But you can't disprove anything.

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Look if you want to believe everything you read, that's find. Personally I question a lot of what is out there. We weren't there thousands of years ago, we don't truly know what is true and what's not. Plain and simple.

There is always going to be people that will question things in history. Some of the things in the past is hard to believe. Like look at Ancient Egypt. It's amazing how those pyramids were made. It's so hard to believe they were able to make those great pyramids just on human effort and work. (Cause they didn't have the same equipment and technology back then.)

From chasers to Jesus to PMS...how can we steer this thread to the merits of dissolving Plymouth?

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Originally Posted by italianamerican25

So basically like many people, you take what you want out of the book and say it's true. lol

Just like many people out there in the world. How nice. :)

Whatever works for you. It's just like with the possibility of there being a god or a creator of all this. I always say, I am not saying there is one, or there is not one. I don't know, none of us truly knows.

We are still learning about life to this day. And will continue to learn more til we are not here anymore. It's amazing what we did find over the years (and the advances we made). Makes you wonder what human will find in the future.

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The possibility of having a god is arguable because as human's war capable of dissecting what is realistic and why is not...

Having a man named jesus walk on earth like you and me is not impossible...

But like you said we learn things everyday...

They found the tomb of James, brother of Jesus... It is scripted in his tomb "James son of Joseph, Brother of Jesus" In aramic...

There is more possibilities out there, so that's why I can't be one of those people who don't believe in anything. I find is as ignorant as a religious person set in his/her ways. To be honest.