I think all straight men like shemales.

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Originally Posted by Nowhere

Look, I don't really care about the straight-versus-gay thing one damn bit, but I do think there's a lot more bisexuality than people make out to be (especially since there is the overwhelming belief of "bi now, gay later" towards ALL MEN these days).

That being said, all I have to say is when that ellery girl was on cam4 yesterday, there were more people watching her than the "female" section of the site. It's just a fact. 2200 vs 1800 for the top girls (no pun intended).

What it comes down to is that with the internet, the bar for sex has been ramped up more, since everything is immediately accessible. Know that it was a lot more work getting porn before it existed, which kept most things on fairly tame levels (why Playboy was so successful). Playboy, for example, was always just beyond what was able to be within easy reach, like swimsuit calendars, etc. Therefore, what was a little 'bad' or 'wrong' was just plain old vanilla sex.

Remember also that this 'wrong' or 'bad' is part of what gets people's rocks off. So, by the internet making anything and everything easily accessible, this bar has been raised. Once it was lesbian porn. That was pretty easily accessible. Then girls started making out for attention in bars. Big deal.

So, that becomes normal and boring, making the bar on what gets people's rocks off goes higher. Trans girls fit a higher bar pretty well, considering it's as 'hidden' as porn once was, and that it's seen as definitely 'wrong' since anything not vanilla sex for men is considered to be on the fast track to homosexuality, so there you go.

I am thoroughly convinced a lot of guys who would call themselves "straight" look at trans porn. I have baited people in the past to unwittingly admit it, as further proof, but I think the porn industry knows it pretty well, too.

Personally, I don't care how people categorize it, but that is what it is.

And, given the fact that most people looking at porn are men, and more guys were looking at trans girls than genetic girls on cam4, at least once, that says quite a lot. And, you know what? I don't care. All I know is that it's going to get damn interesting when a celeb, politician or sports figure finally gets caught with one of you lovely girls where he can't hide it. ;)

P.S. I don't think most of these straight men like seeing guys being bottomed. I hate to say it, but what gets most guys rocks off is not the vagina, but the overall body/face of a woman. And, both girls and trans girls have girl bodies, which is what does it for them. So, their fantasies are more about f*cking the girls than having the girls f*cking them. Sure, in a forum like this, there are plenty of loud power bottoms, but they're not representative of men at large.

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Completely agree. Well put.

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Originally Posted by Nowhere

Look, I don't really care about the straight-versus-gay thing one damn bit, but I do think there's a lot more bisexuality than people make out to be (especially since there is the overwhelming belief of "bi now, gay later" towards ALL MEN these days).

That being said, all I have to say is when that ellery girl was on cam4 yesterday, there were more people watching her than the "female" section of the site. It's just a fact. 2200 vs 1800 for the top girls (no pun intended).

What it comes down to is that with the internet, the bar for sex has been ramped up more, since everything is immediately accessible. Know that it was a lot more work getting porn before it existed, which kept most things on fairly tame levels (why Playboy was so successful). Playboy, for example, was always just beyond what was able to be within easy reach, like swimsuit calendars, etc. Therefore, what was a little 'bad' or 'wrong' was just plain old vanilla sex.

Remember also that this 'wrong' or 'bad' is part of what gets people's rocks off. So, by the internet making anything and everything easily accessible, this bar has been raised. Once it was lesbian porn. That was pretty easily accessible. Then girls started making out for attention in bars. Big deal.

So, that becomes normal and boring, making the bar on what gets people's rocks off goes higher. Trans girls fit a higher bar pretty well, considering it's as 'hidden' as porn once was, and that it's seen as definitely 'wrong' since anything not vanilla sex for men is considered to be on the fast track to homosexuality, so there you go.

I am thoroughly convinced a lot of guys who would call themselves "straight" look at trans porn. I have baited people in the past to unwittingly admit it, as further proof, but I think the porn industry knows it pretty well, too.

Personally, I don't care how people categorize it, but that is what it is.

And, given the fact that most people looking at porn are men, and more guys were looking at trans girls than genetic girls on cam4, at least once, that says quite a lot. And, you know what? I don't care. All I know is that it's going to get damn interesting when a celeb, politician or sports figure finally gets caught with one of you lovely girls where he can't hide it. ;)

P.S. I don't think most of these straight men like seeing guys being bottomed. I hate to say it, but what gets most guys rocks off is not the vagina, but the overall body/face of a woman. And, both girls and trans girls have girl bodies, which is what does it for them. So, their fantasies are more about f*cking the girls than having the girls f*cking them. Sure, in a forum like this, there are plenty of loud power bottoms, but they're not representative of men at large.

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True that... :iagree:

I totally agree with your theory!!!! I have tried to support this opinion in the past here in this forum and i have even get flamed by TSs or other guys for supporting the idea that all straight men like shemales. I was called "gay" cause i admited that i like the cock on a woman!!!! This happened 2-3 years ago. But nowadays seems that the truth is gaining support even by the narrowest minded people Also Nina Arsenault (btw girl...you look stunning!!!) has uploaded this video in youtube. YouTube - The eroticization of M2F transsexuals by straight men Need to say more? M2F transsexuals are the straight man's hard on!!!

To comment on the OPs original statement....Yeah...So What!!!

I haven't read all response to the thread or the youtube link yet so im not sure if what I'll say been said or something similar will be said, but I did mention it once before back when I first joined.

I think eventually either the whole world gonna finally amitt their attraction to tgirls, or the population of men attracted to tgirls are going to rise quickly. I read an article once online on wikipidea about how ladyboys films were first introduced to their public. It started out as men fantasies of women having a cocks and it did successful because their ladyboys/tgirls look just like females, but with a cock that a dude can relate the sexual feeling with during sexual activities, especially during orgasms. Thats always been a huge part of my attraction to tgirls as well, the relation to sensation of sex, plus of course how they look plays a role, and I'm sure the rest of the world gonna realize this as well or be more open about their desires. I like females too, but it's hard to relate sexual feeling lets when when watching them on a porn vid or whatever. Im having a hard time finding that article again but once I find it I'll post it up

Well, all you self hating trannies and losers....apparently 50% of men are gay, because they would fuck a tranny, some of them only drunk though....this poll from a straight site http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=23054
Maybe bitter Saffron is too ugly for a guy to overlook the fact that she was born a dude rolf, u know a guy would fuck an ugly gg, but a shemale has to be flawless for most of them to get over it, sad but true

"...I would fuck this I would fuck that...."

more important question to consider is: Would you love...?

But that's probably spoken too much from a girl's perspective...:ignore:

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Originally Posted by goku

I am an expert on male behaviour because I am one. Our egos rule us. Most men can't stand losing face, and there is no bigger way to lose face then to be perceived as gay. Why do you think men react so violently towards transsexuals?

That being said, it doesn't mean they aren't attracted to you, or wouldn't have sex with you if there were 100% sure no one would find out.

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I know you are right but it's really tragic. I am like 1000% times more masculine then most of the tranny chasers are. Because I don't think anyone can really be called a man when he is so unsure about his own ego and cares so much what other people think.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

...I would fuck this I would fuck that....
more important question is: would you love...

But that's probably viewed too much from a girl perspective...:ignore:

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I think it's difficult for a lot of men to admit those feelings, Birgitta, at least until they've been through some life. I get the impression that some fellows use the word as a shield to hide their feelings and that some use it simply for the shock value or because other guys say things like that. Personally I look at the act of penetration as just one part of the much larger act of making love which is one of several means of sharing intimacy with a woman. I really think the world would be much better off if men would learn how to love instead of worrying about who they're going to fuck next. Just my opinion.:)

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