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Does this mean she's pulling the plug on her porn career? I know she can do what she wants, but she won't be nearly as popular with this look.
She(?) announced late last year she was retiring from porn.Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2
i dont see a big problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by NormallyNorm
She is bored with the problem of coronavirus and she changed the look.
She is a girl yet, yes a look more male and? I saw a lot of lesbian girls looking more male than her hehe.
By other hand, i dont think that she continues this look a long time...
:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
On her twitter she said she's still doing custom videos. There's a hot clip of her oiled up and jerking her hot cock.
If you ask me, then this is a dude. Which means I am out.Quote:
Originally Posted by NormallyNorm
Chanel is damaging her image with this new look. I mean if she wants to stay or go back to being a TS. And if she wants to remain in the adult business. Many men will have this boyish image stuck in their mind forever. It is damaging. Ask a certain Jennifer Paris.
I once was talking to a TS in a bar, and somehow, I don't know if it was the alcohol or what, she thought it was a good idea to show me an old participation of her in a TV program. The only problem, she was a guy back then. Big Mistake. For the rest of the night, I was fighting the image of her previous self in my mind. It felt like I was talking to that guy and not the lady in front of me. It's weird. You start seeing the nose, the ears, etc... In the end, that image won. Needless to say, I ended up leaving that night, without her.
I mean if she switch back to being a guy, then I think she was never serious about being a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by brooksglass
There are YouTube videos of hers when she was 16, saying that she was eager to become a girl and can't wait for her 18th Bday. She turns 18, and start her HT, do the boob job, few operations here and there along the way on her face then start hitting the porn industry madly. I am sure she was escorting too.
Now at 22, she retires and all of the sudden she is questioning her orientation.
I've seen it done so many times in the past by different people. Guys will go this way to make a quick buck. It is a sure way to make good money if you have the prerequisites. I just hope Chanel is not as evil as those people and that she is truly and honestly seeking the truth about herself.
Steady. I don't think she is reverting to being a guy; ie stopped taking hormones or having her boob job removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by african1
Some people change their minds for reasons that we are not in a position to understand and certainly not to judge. It doesn't mean their previous persona was somehow dishonest. When we buy porn, all the performer owes us is a good performance, and I don't think anyone can complain about Chanel on that score.
Evil? How do you get to decide how people should live their lives? Do you have any clue how confusing and difficult it is to transition? It's the hardest thing a person can do. Some people can't handle the pressure at all. Transgender suicide rates are very high. One of the reasons it is hard is because of judgmental people like you. How can you be trans attracted and hold it against a woman for having been born with male genitalia? The past remains part of a person, regardless of your fantasies.Quote:
Originally Posted by african1
I just find it amusing how others keep complaining how others look and live their life - but - then again, i guess it might be easier to target others "mistakes" (in their eyes) than look in the mirror and do something about their own life.
(and I think she still look great)
To be clear, on twitter, she/they declared themselves gender fluid, not as someone who was full-on detransitioning. The new, more masculine look doesn't appeal to me personally, but I don't there's anything unethical going on with the changes in appearance and identification.Quote:
Originally Posted by african1
Evil? How do you get to decide how people should live their lives?
I don't and I have no right to do so.
Do you have any clue how confusing and difficult it is to transition?
I know. Only the person knows.
It's the hardest thing a person can do. Some people can't handle the pressure at all.
I can only imagine.
Transgender suicide rates are very high.
I know
One of the reasons it is hard is because of judgmental people like you. How can you be trans attracted and hold it against a woman for having been born with male genitalia? The past remains part of a person, regardless of your fantasies.
I was not judging. I was speaking about certain and few cases from the past. Like Vicky Richter or that dude that reverted back and now is a Trump supporter. Not that I have anything against that. I just mentioned this fact so people know who I am talking about.
I apologize if my words came out harsh in my previous message or if it sounded like I was talking about every TS out there. I was not generalizing. God knows how many times I defended Trans-gendered people in public, with my friends and family. And I always mention the depression and high suicide rate that I know is a problem. It took two of my idols: Patricia Araujo and the lovely Patricia Bysmark. So I know how painful it can be for some.
It is just shocking to me that a TS would go to such a length to look better than 99% of Generic Girls out there, just to give it up in a minute and in such a short period of time. I am sorry but I am having a hard time believing it is solely a soul searching mission. Maybe life has taught me different lessons. But I've seen it done many many times. For instance Vicky Richter was one of the reasons I even got into transsexual girls. It was one of those bait pictures you get and blam you end up discovering a whole new world that you didn't even know existed. Yet I read that she did all of that transitioning for money and to trick men. Do you know how hurtful that is? I mean your reason to get into T-girls in the first place was the bottom of it, in its essence: A LIE.
Furthermore, I read many articles that in Thailand, boys or gay boys will act as transsexual women to make money. They do it for 5-10 years then revert back. Yea they call us pharang over there. Which is a derogatory word for foreigners. A slur (Pharang = Foreign).
Yes, you mentioned T-girls and their feelings, but everyone seems to forget about the feelings of men. Just because we have Testosterone, it doesn't make us monsters. Many T-girls tend to abuse men and simply go after their cash, however it is done. Many of us are not just after our libido. We come here not just for the sexual pictures, but for good discussions and advice as well. We have feelings too. Although most of us hide them well, but we are humans. That's what I was trying to say when I wrote my previous message about Chanel. I grew to like her in the last few years and to be honest, I use her as a model of perfection when I exercise or try to lose weight and look good. When you build such a beautiful image of someone in your mind, it is shocking to have it distorted. It happened so many times in the past. I hope it won't happen again.
Just FYI, there’s zero proof to the Vicki Richter claims. She just retired manQuote:
Originally Posted by african1
I'm not a fan of the new look at all personally, but if that's what Chanel wants, well then that's that.
Talking with a clinical psychologist many years ago, he confessed that psychology has failed to produce a stable definition of a person. I would now demur, and claim most of us have AIDS: Acquired Identity Definition Syndrom.
I acquired my ID when I was growing up and my parents, my siblings, my schoolteachers et al, all informed me I am Male. On one level I was co-opted into Male Growth Expectations: I played football; on another I resisted: I looked bewidered at model boats and 'planes that were given to me as gifts- because that is what boys want (!)-, and gave them to my mother who loved assemblng these purposeless objects. Then, in my 20s at a time when I was single and unmarried, I was informed by my boss at the time, when admittedly he was very, very drunk 'you are not a man in my estimation', so the development of the self and the person do not appear to follow a linear line from birth to death, with one Identity stamped on the body for all time. And though I have never wanted to be a woman, my sense of my own identity as a man, as well as my behaviour is mine alone, and I really don't care if people in society judge a man by his ability to procreate, or to kill, or write books, or be a President.
So the reality is that all identities are fluid, maybe or sometimes on a daily basis. Chanel at 18 becomes a gorgeous woman desired by men and women alike, as well as those who decline to identify themselves as men or women. When she is 28 she may be he, or whatever Chane chooses, because that is the freedom life confers on a human, who can acquired any identity they want to. It can only be important to that person. Society can try to impose an identity on Chanel but it is her choice to become Chuck if she wants to. Heidegger says somewhere that we do not really exist in time as if we were a train constantly propelled forward, we exist in time that has curves and roundabouts, we can live in our past and present at the same time, and can only shape our lives in relation to death, the most important 'nothingness' we mostly seek to avoid. On this journey back and forth, identity is the rails on which we travel.
Let her be. Don't be a jerk, just jerk off, which is what most do with regard to Chanel anyway and can do for many years to come.
You had me but then you lost me. You said some thoughtful things, but then you went back to claiming you're the victim of some sort of conspiracy. Your feelings are your feelings, but trans individuals risk their lives simply by trying to figure out who they are. They are humans. It is disrespectful to assume that they are just trying to trick you for your money. Did Chanel Santini ever get any money from you? Did she ever promise you anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by african1
That's not how you convince someone. You are doing the opposite of what you are preaching. Telling me not to judge someone while you yourself are judging me. That is not how you win people over to your cause. Luckily Stavros succeeded in one post in what you failed to do in three. I now see. I understand now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
I vote for this to be the quote of the week. It did put a smile on my face. Just for this phrase you deserved an up-vote and I wish I could vote for your post numerous times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Wow Stavros. Your message was amazing and won me over to your thinking. You must be a psychologist. ☺️
Thank you for sharing your personal experience with me. I am sorry to hear that drivel about your boss. It appears it did affect you deeply. Did he mean it physically? as you look effeminate or did he mean it as you don't act like a macho?
I know that each person have their twisted idea of what a man and what a woman should look like and how each should act and what their role in society should be. But I did sense that this fact never bothered you a bit, as you live your life the way you want to, and not the way others want you to live it.
Thank you again. I will be honored to call you my friend. 👍
I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm also not an injustice collector. You have made yourself very clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by african1
Okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
Well, they just set up a new personal twitter account called KiingKameron where they id as male so pretty sure it's more than just a temporary butch look during quarantine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZELLGADISS
Porn is a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by african1
Honestly, good for them. Who are we to dictate someone else's identity? Chanel accomplished more, and gave us more quality jerk-off material, in this short amount of time than 99% of performers have done in longer careers. They don't owe us shit.
And with that, I’m done. Good luck to them in their future, there’s always more girls out there so it’s no big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by NormallyNorm
I'm with you. She gave us A LOT of stuff to jerk off to. It was a great run. If this is the true calling, all you can do is be happy for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by phillyguy21
Girl, Guy, TS... it's still an attractive person that I wouldn't mind having fun with. :)
Thank you Sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Castor_Troy05
What is he called now? Chandler?
Actually Christopher. 😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiseman2018
He's calling himself Kameron on his twitter account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiseman2018
Just noticed they completely deleted their old instagram account and now their only official insta is @kiingkameron_/. I think they still identify as androgynous/gender fluid, but also consistently moving in a more masculine direction.
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It is his/her body and his/her life,... who cares?. Let it be.
Not judging, just surprised, fascinated, and admittedly a little disappointed by these developments given they were one of the most beautiful and popular TS porn performers of recent years. I'm also genuinely curious at this point if they're going to full-on detransition or remain fluid.Quote:
Originally Posted by PEPE3Z
Ella Hollywood is also shifting more masculine:
https://twitter.com/ella_hollywood
Sharnell Dupree also has an androgynous Twitter, Daisy Taylor is gender fluid I believe too, though no separate twitter for her yet
Basically he made a U-turn
he is a boy now, a white rapper
Are you mainly disappointed that Chanel stopped making TS porn or that she has changed her gender identification? Would it have made a difference if she'd just quit and disappeared from the public eye, as most girls in the industry seem to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by NormallyNorm
Both I suppose, but I think I'd be more disappointed if they'd just shut down all their social media and disappeared all together. Like any bit of gossip about a celebrity (and a TS porn star is a kind of minor celebrity) I've followed and thought was hot or interesting, I like hearing/seeing what's going on with them. At any rate, whatever my disappointment I hope the best for them and if these changes make them happy then so be it, and in the meantime I remain interested in their journey even it no longer does much to turn me on personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2