17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

You fail to realize how the hell do you just walk up to someone with out probably identifying yourself? Trayvon didn't know who that character was he never identified himself, all he did was say "WHAT ARE YOU DOING AROUND HERE", is that how you talk to a stranger? If he was responsible and a professional he would of approached Trayvon as: "EXCUSE ME I AM GEORGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAPTAIN, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW BREAK INS AROUND HERE AND I NEVER SEEN YOUR HERE BEFORE, YOU LIVE AROUND HERE? " In a tone that's not gangish or threatening. OR HE SHOULD OF STAYED HIS ASS IN THE SUV LIKE THE DISPATCHER TOLD HIM!!!!

Why don't you people see that? If he would of stayed his ass in the car Trayvon would be alive!!! Simple.

You said he was carrying because of what? Again you fail to realize as a watchmen the rule is "NOT TO CARRY A WEAPON" if he felt that dam scared he shouldn't have been a watchmen!!! Stop making rhetoric excuses that makes no dam since. Your logic is fallacious, no thinking on your part, as though you know nothing of this case.

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he didn't stalk a unarmend young man he simply asked him what he was doing in the gated community in which he did not live. At this point if martin said i am staying at my dads while i am suspended from school he probably would be alive.

he never told the police they always get away with it, that was to a dispatcher.

he was carrying because he was out in the middle of the night by himself watching out for trouble while everybody else slept. It seems to me everytime he called 911 they blew him off. that would be why his statement was they get away with it because the 911 dispatchers were lazy and didn't do shit when he did call something suspicious in.

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CTFU LOL EXACTLY!!! Dude talking in circles, rules this, prudence that, law here, justice there lol hahahah

Dudes ain't getting it, Zimmerman should of stayed his ass in the car. Trayvon wasn't a threat to Zimmerman, Trayvon DIDN'T HAVE A DAM WEAPON!!! Those are the facts.

Bottom line Zimmerman took a life because he wanted to be a dam hero. He took the law into his own hands and now a teen is dead because of it. Tray belonged in the neighborhood, his dad lived there so he was dead right being there. People are not seeing these facts they just bounce right around them.

THANK YOU MR GIOVANNI!!! Profound well written. Dudes wanna talk so technical they sound stupid. See that's the problem people are looking to support Zimmerman and not looking at both sides, Zimmerman's side is fucked up!!! Trayvon side is dead on because 1. he made a call said he was being followed 2. he belonged in the gated community because of his father and not on the prowl as Zimmerman thought 3. It shows he went to the 7/11 store 4. He was not threatening nor a gang banger 5. He was definitely killed for no apparent reason.

Zimmerman 1. Violate behavior even told by his friends 2. Violate against his girl friend so bad she had to put a restraining order against him in 2005. 3. Violate against police in 2005. 4. Wanted so bad to be a cop but failed. 5. Was told not to engage the teen but he didn't listen and took the law into his own hands. 6. Lied and said he had a broken nose. 7. Approached Trayvon in the wrong manner. 8. Should of kept his ass in the SUV!!!

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THe problem is Travyon told his GF almost from the moment he entered the gated community from 7-11 that someone, who happened to be George Zimmerman, was following him. If someone is following you for 3+ blocks, gets out of their car and runs you down, a reasonable person is allowed to think they're being stalked.

Have any of you ever been followed by a stranger for a period a time and then were confronted by them??

I've been 'followed' by a person I didn't recognize at first when I've been out in unfamiliar potentially dangerous locations, and in those few seconds your mind goes extremely negative, fight or flight mode totally kicks in inside your head.

When a stranger runs up on you after following you for several blocks inside their SUV, no normal person is thinking, 'I wonder what this nice gentleman wants to talk to me about?'

If my Black ass was following some of you gun toters in my ride and then suddenly I got out of my car and ran up on you, I doubt any of you would be in the mood for polite conversation. In fact I bet most of you would have your firearm unholstered with your finger on the trigger.

Trayvon ran to AVOID A CONFRONTATION WITH GEORGE, and then felt he was cornered by this hispanic looking dude with a shaved head wearing a red jacket at night. I don't know where you're from, but IMO at night Zimmerman looks like a gang banger. Gang members confront 'strangers' all the time who enter their turf with some BS, 'what are you doing here?', and if you give the wrong answer the reply back could be a gunshot to the dome.

Why was Trayvon scared, scared enough to fight a stranger??

All this is compounded by the fact that Zimmerman for some reason thought this kid who from all reports was TALKING ON HIS CELLPHONE was about to commit a crime and looked dangerously suspicious.

Zimmerman IMO has borderline personality disorder and if he hadn't killed Travyon, eventually was going to gun down a 'suspicious looking BM' in Sanford.

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EXACTLY!!! If you looked at how he entered the court room he has a dismal crazy look on his face, he looked out of touch. He needs to be locked up before he kills another person!!!

Another thing these supporters of Zimmerman is forgetting THE MAN IS A PATHETIC LIAR!!!

He said himself from the police report "I WAS ATTACKED BY TRAYVON FROM BEHIND ON MY LEFT SIDE AS I TRIED TO GET INTO MY SUV".

That's a dam lie!!! I saw the lay out of the gated community, Trayvon and Zimmerman tangled in the GRASS area within the gated community this is how witnesses were able to see and hear what was going on, the car was outside of the gated community parked. If you listen to Zimmerman you can hear him give the dispatcher complete details of where Trayvon was headed into the gated community around a corner of some sort, and you hear Zimmerman stop his vehicle and get out and walk or jog towards Trayvon. He even knocked on someone's door while he was on the phone and he was no where near the dam car.

Self defense was planned in Zimmerman's mind already he knew if he was going to get in a situation and shoot someone he was going to claim self defense.

Now if it's stand your ground law, Zimmerman went AFTER Trayvon, that doesn't show that Zimmerman was threatened because he was in pursuit of another person. Trayvon was the one that could use Stand Your Ground, he was the prey and Zimmerman was the predator!!! You can't claim self defense if you went after someone, that doesn't show he was cornered but yet cornered another human being.

HE IS A DAM LIAR!!! A PSYCHOTIC ONE AT THAT!!!

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Utter nonsense. We all know exactly what SYG laws are about: little boys with rich fantasy lives want to play with their toys out in public and play vigilante hero. We've seen what happens when such laws are on the books. THE LAW IS A BIG PROBLEM, not to mention the idiots (training or not) who carry concealed weapons. Men carry their guns out in the open. Real men don't carry at all. Like you need a gun in a gated community:rolleyes:.

Look at it this way: Needless endangerment resulting in death falls under the category of manslaughter. Being negligent of the risks of your actions to the lives of unarmed kids is reckless endangerment. When it ends in death it's a homicide.

Zimmerman did not make a tactical error. He was negligent, reckless. His action was "stupid" and "dangerous." Those are your words. Don't go flip-flopping on me now. Tactical...right:rolleyes:.

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This is they we have the Castle Doctrine Law here in Texas. This white woman had her baby at a pediatric clinic, and a black woman walked up, shot her several times while demanding her baby and ran off with her baby, ran over the mother with her car and left her there to die. I heard this live on my police scanner, and happened just a few miles from my home.

I suppose the white woman was in the wrong right?


http://www.khou.com/home/Photos--147924395.html

I see the amateur attorneys are still thrashing this out. Thought this was interesting in that early on in this case, and this thread, you all were pretty convinced Zimmerman was at best a racist, at worst a racial profiler. Interesting You Tube Clip........... paging Jesse....Sharpire....Spike....Anybody there? Seems they've moved on to stoke the fires of the next incident. And tell me again ....just what was the evidence he was a racist? And once more all together....in case you need it spelled out for you again...I'm not defending Zimmerman, or anyone else for that matter. This piece of evidence speaks to the racial issue you all are so invested in. It does not speak to the overall guilt or innocence of Zimmerman with respect to the shooting...., but where will you be if the racial aspect is shown to be fallacious?


Mark Nejame with Zimmerman family photo - YouTube

Having Black bloodlines doesn't make you immune from being a bigot.
That would be like me saying since my great-great-great-grandfather was half white, there's no way at all I could have any animus against White people.( I don't have any btw, just saying one's parentage in this type of discussion is trite.)

I'd bet you for damn sure that George Zimmerman doesn't self identify as Black.lol

I know Blacks who are racially biased against other Blacks, and I know WHites who look down at other Whites because of their socio-economic background.

Zimmerman IMO is a psychopath. His tendency to stereotype Black men when he's cruising his gated community just fits his profile as a paranoid.

Some guys when they are carrying a piece achieve almost a zen like calm, think Clint Eastwood starring in a Sergio Leone western. Their firearm gives them that much of a sense of security and complete control.

THen there are guys like Zimmerman who having a firearm on their person gives them a greater sense of anxiety about the world around them, as if having the gun makes them more fearful of their surroundings like Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver.

Trayvon Martin Gun Range Targets - YouTube

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/1...t-in-two-days/

Maybe Romney can put Zimmerman on the ticket as VP and secure the tea party vote, Sheeesh....

That video means nothing, and Zimmerman doesn't classify nor is his identity status of that of African American, what are you insane? He thinks he is Caucasian and he thinks he's above the law. Now show me a document where he signed where he said he's African descent, show that.

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I see the amateur attorneys are still thrashing this out. Thought this was interesting in that early on in this case, and this thread, you all were pretty convinced Zimmerman was at best a racist, at worst a racial profiler. Interesting You Tube Clip........... paging Jesse....Sharpire....Spike....Anybody there? Seems they've moved on to stoke the fires of the next incident. And tell me again ....just what was the evidence he was a racist? And once more all together....in case you need it spelled out for you again...I'm not defending Zimmerman, or anyone else for that matter. This piece of evidence speaks to the racial issue you all are so invested in. It does not speak to the overall guilt or innocence of Zimmerman with respect to the shooting...., but where will you be if the racial aspect is shown to be fallacious?


Mark Nejame with Zimmerman family photo - YouTube

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Zimmerman IMO is a psychopath. His tendency to stereotype Black men when he's cruising his gated community just fits his profile as a paranoid.

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YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD SIR!!!! Baaaaaaaaaaam! The dude is a nut case and need to be locked up so this won't happen again. It's pure evidence that he chased down a teen just because he never seen him in the area before.

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This is they we have the Castle Doctrine Law here in Texas. This white woman had her baby at a pediatric clinic, and a black woman walked up, shot her several times while demanding her baby and ran off with her baby, ran over the mother with her car and left her there to die. I heard this live on my police scanner, and happened just a few miles from my home.

I suppose the white woman was in the wrong right?


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There are crazy people of all races. Yes this is a very terrible thing to happen to anyone. But do you think that mothers should carry loaded guns with their diaper bags, and crying infants? I would bet money that more mothers would injure themselves or others, going thru post partem depression, while carrying loaded weapons, than the amount saved from being attacked by a crazy person. More guns is not the answer. They cannot protect from a crazy person shooting you without warning.

If you look at human nature, will see that far many more people treasure, and protect mothers and infants. The world's population is at an all time high. Those who live in fear of the worst, often miss seeing all the love, and good things out there.

http://www.change.org/petitions/virg...e=action_alert

In the past couple of days, news sources have reported that the Hiller Armament Company of Virginia has been selling gun targets that look like Trayvon Martin, complete with a hoodie, Skittles, and iced tea.
It's not just vile, it's possibly illegal: Virginia law says that no one can profit off of the likeness of any person without his consent -- even if that person has been killed. But as soon as reporters started asking questions, the Hiller Armament Company shut down its website and disconnected its phone.
Tahir Duckett lives in Virginia, and he wants Virginia's Attorney General, Ken Cuccinelli, to investigate the Hiller Armament Company and punish them if they have broken the law.
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http://www.change.org/petitions/virg...e=action_alert

In the past couple of days, news sources have reported that the Hiller Armament Company of Virginia has been selling gun targets that look like Trayvon Martin, complete with a hoodie, Skittles, and iced tea.
It's not just vile, it's possibly illegal: Virginia law says that no one can profit off of the likeness of any person without his consent -- even if that person has been killed. But as soon as reporters started asking questions, the Hiller Armament Company shut down its website and disconnected its phone.
Tahir Duckett lives in Virginia, and he wants Virginia's Attorney General, Ken Cuccinelli, to investigate the Hiller Armament Company and punish them if they have broken the law.
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That's twisted. What sickos.

Crazy, then they run like cowards lol

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There are crazy people of all races. Yes this is a very terrible thing to happen to anyone. But do you think that mothers should carry loaded guns with their diaper bags, and crying infants? I would bet money that more mothers would injure themselves or others, going thru post partem depression, while carrying loaded weapons, than the amount saved from being attacked by a crazy person. More guns is not the answer. They cannot protect from a crazy person shooting you without warning.

If you look at human nature, will see that far many more people treasure, and protect mothers and infants. The world's population is at an all time high. Those who live in fear of the worst, often miss seeing all the love, and good things out there.

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Ah yes, the best way to stop violence is to carry more guns.... Great argument.

notice police charged with involuntary man slaughter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...DB1pe9XC8&NR=1

Fullerton, CA --- Two police officers will face felony charges in the death of Kelly Thomas, 37, who was brutally beaten by six Fullerton Police officers and died several days later from his severe injuries. The announcement was made on September 21, 2011 by the county prosecutor. Officer Manuel Ramos will be charged with one felony count of second degree murder and one felony count of involuntary manslaughter. Additionally, Crpl. Jay Cicinelli faces charges of involuntary manslaughter and use of excessive force.

POLICE BRUTALLY BEAT HOMELESS MAN CAUGHT ON TAPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=qWxIHAnd47Y

ZIMMERMAN IS TOAST! TRAVON MARTIN WAS SCREAMING FOR HELP!

Thank you for the news, that is crazy.

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notice police charged with involuntary man slaughter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...DB1pe9XC8&NR=1

Fullerton, CA --- Two police officers will face felony charges in the death of Kelly Thomas, 37, who was brutally beaten by six Fullerton Police officers and died several days later from his severe injuries. The announcement was made on September 21, 2011 by the county prosecutor. Officer Manuel Ramos will be charged with one felony count of second degree murder and one felony count of involuntary manslaughter. Additionally, Crpl. Jay Cicinelli faces charges of involuntary manslaughter and use of excessive force.

POLICE BRUTALLY BEAT HOMELESS MAN CAUGHT ON TAPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=qWxIHAnd47Y

ZIMMERMAN IS TOAST! TRAVON MARTIN WAS SCREAMING FOR HELP!

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Zimmerman Made Disparaging Remarks About Mexican
s on MySpace Page

A MySpace page has surfaced that shows Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman made disparaging remarks about Mexicans and boasted about escaping from legal problems.

While the page is dated from 2005 and has not been used for some time, lawyers on both sides say the social media page could become a factor in the case against Zimmerman, who is accused of shooting the unarmed African-American teenager in Sanford, Florida, on February 26.

The page, titled, "only to be a king again," shows Zimmerman sounding off against Mexicans and celebrating his evasion of charges after a fight with a law enforcement officer.

In a possible reference to an alleged 2005 domestic violence incident, Zimmerman also uses a disparaging slang word for prostitute against his former girlfriend. Benjamin Crump, a lawyer for Trayvon Martin’s family, says the page shows Zimmerman has a history of racial profiling.

WHAT A BROKEN NOSE LOOKS LIKE
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03...been-arrested/

Trayvon Martin killer George Zimmerman’s 2005 MySpace page “includes disparaging remarks about Mexicans.”
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/tag/george-zimmerman/


According to the Miami Herald, Zuazo said that three years earlier, Zimmerman attacked her while the two were driving to a counseling session. Zuazo said she popped her gum in his face and he repeatedly smacked her in the face. In January 2002, she added, Zimmerman became enraged that she had come home late. They wrestled and he threw her on the bed, smacking her, according to the newspaper.
In September 2003, Zimmerman called police and reported that another motorist spat on him, according to reports, Zimmerman followed the man in his car until the police arrived. Daniel Osmun, the other driver, told police that Zimmerman was tailgating and that he spit his gum out the window "out of frustration."
Osum said that Zimmerman then pulled alongside of him, and the two argued. In a police report of the incident, Osum said “at one point, he thought Mr. Zimmerman was going to attack him." No charges were filed against either man.

Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman Was 'Jekyll And Hyde,' Former Co-Worker Says
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1392591.html

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That video means nothing, and Zimmerman doesn't classify nor is his identity status of that of African American, what are you insane? He thinks he is Caucasian and he thinks he's above the law. Now show me a document where he signed where he said he's African descent, show that.

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Zimmerman Made Disparaging Remarks About Mexican
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A MySpace page has surfaced that shows Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman made disparaging remarks about Mexicans and boasted about escaping from legal problems.

While the page is dated from 2005 and has not been used for some time, lawyers on both sides say the social media page could become a factor in the case against Zimmerman, who is accused of shooting the unarmed African-American teenager in Sanford, Florida, on February 26.

The page, titled, "only to be a king again," shows Zimmerman sounding off against Mexicans and celebrating his evasion of charges after a fight with a law enforcement officer.

In a possible reference to an alleged 2005 domestic violence incident, Zimmerman also uses a disparaging slang word for prostitute against his former girlfriend. Benjamin Crump, a lawyer for Trayvon Martin’s family, says the page shows Zimmerman has a history of racial profiling.

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ZIMMMERMAN STATED "they always get away" argument for racial profiling

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...rvers-say?lite

Criminally Negligent Homicide





(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_story.html



What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.



Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:



-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator



-- despite the proper protocals for any neighborhood watch program



-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement




Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.



He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.





In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,



or the firing of the gun.



Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.



If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...






then he's guilty under the law

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George Zimmerman Arrested! Father A Judge; Above The Law

April 11th, 2012 Update:
George Zimmerman was arrested Wednesday on a charge of second degree murder in the death of 17 year old Trayvon Martin. According to his attorney, a warrant for his arrest was declared and he is now in the custody of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
The Murder could have been prevented: More expected actions

The public is demanding in addition to his arrest, more severe investigative and disciplinary actions into the obvious laxity and complicity in the Florida police department. The extreme delay it took in bringing a most glaring criminal charge elucidates a deficit in department conduct.
Late March, the Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte had said that so many people complained at the city commission meeting about Sanford officers, the city asked the Department of Justice to step in.

“I am now in the process of talking with the Department of Justice and instituting a mechanism whereby citizens that have concerns or complaints about the Sanford Police Department can have their concerns heard and investigated by an independent agency,” Bonaparte said.

http://www.newsrescue.com/wp-content...12_BillLee.jpgSanford Police Chief Bill Lee Stepped down temporarily earlier. Bonaparte stands behind in image

Police criminal negligence?

There were obvious lapses in judgement and execution of police protocol favorable to this judge’s son that in the first place allowed this dangerous criminal with past records of violence against police, carry a concealed weapon, hunt his neighbors- which the police were well aware of- culminating in his- Zimmermans murder of Trayvon. And more severe abnormalities in the department that allowed his release from custody after the crime, even though ‘unnecessary man slaughter’ had been written on his folder.
Further, the declaration of Trayvon ‘missing’ for three days while his family searched for him, when the police had his personal information as is seen in the image above, from the day of the murder, raises the instance of ‘aiding and abetting and concealing’ murder within the department.
March 27th, 2012; Updated March 29th {Video of Zimmerman arriving at police precinct}
George Zimmerman Arrested Thrice! Father A Judge; Above The Law

NewsRescue- That George Zimmerman is yet eluding justice defies all logic and sets dangerous precedence in the United States- that individuals of all races with prior arrests for dangerous activity including violently resisting arrest- beating up the arresting officer- can posses a concealed weapon, in civilian clothes, advance toward anyone they deem suspicious and shoot dead that individual if he is combative or resistant to their advance.
George Zimmerman’s white father, Judge Robert J. Zimmerman as quoted below, described George as a ‘Spanish speaking minority’, painting him as neither Jewish, nor white. Well, being Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia must then be a religion and not a heritage, and being white must only be matrilineal as paternal contributions must not reflect, in his fathers point of view.
George Zimmerman is as Hispanic as Obama is White, after all, Obama’s mom is white, just like George’s mom is from Cuba, while Obama’s dad is black, just as Zimmerman’s dad is White. Perhaps Judge Robert Zimmerman suggests we apply the ‘one-drop’ rule.



George Zimmerman clearly disobeyed police instructions before assassinating the teen. Here is exactly what the dispatcher said:

Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yah
Dispatcher: Ok, we don’t need you to do that.

But as we now know, Zimmerman’s history of police disobedience is not new, what is odd is the Police, government and main stream media reaction to this clearly dangerous precedent.
One of the most factual analysis’ of the case thus far can be read below:
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Bill Schmalfeldt
CNN revealed a telling piece of information Friday that has been missed by many of the media outlets covering the slaying of 17-year old Trayvon Martin by a neighborhood watch captain on Feb. 26.

“The portrayal of George Zimmerman in the media, as well as the series of events that led to the tragic shooting, are false and extremely misleading,” his father, a retired magistrate judge, wrote in a letter published in the Orlando Sentinel. “Unfortunately, some individuals and organizations have used this tragedy to further their own causes and agendas.”
“George is a Spanish-speaking minority with many black family members and friends,” Robert Zimmerman wrote. “He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever.” (Emphasis added.)

Might this explain why, when he was first taken to police headquarters on Feb. 26, the lead investigator wanted to bring charges against Zimmerman, saying he was unconvinced of the 28-year old’s description of events.
ABC News reports:

The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.
But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney’s office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn’t enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.

According to Think Progress, Wolfinger has since removed himself from the case.
Was Wolfinger doing a favor for a retired judge? The blog Hinterland Gazette believes that may be the case.

It should be noted that George Zimmerman may have received favorable treatment from the police because of his family. ‎According to court records, his father is retired Supreme Court Magistrate Judge Robert Zimmerman and his mother Gladys Zimmerman was a court clerk. Connections in the legal community run deep and go far.

Might this also explain the younger Zimmerman’s record that includes three “closed arrests”?
Related: NewsRescue-Zimmerman murder of US black teen Trayvon Martin in Florida finally gets attention


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Dam you need to be Trayvon's family attorney. There's no way he should get off, that man with the evidence that's out should do time. We all know he actually killed an unarmed man.

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I'm confused, why would martins family need a attorney?

to speak to the media and for the CIVIL SUIT WHICH HAS LESS OF A BURDEN OF PROOF THEN THE CRIMINAL CHARGES.

INTERVIEWS ON TV OR PAID EXCEPT FOR OPRAH,SHE DOES NOT PAY HER GUEST

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I'm confused, why would martins family need a attorney?

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to speak to the media and for the CIVIL SUIT WHICH HAS LESS OF A BURDEN OF PROOF THEN THE CRIMINAL CHARGES.

INTERVIEWS ON TV OR PAID EXCEPT FOR OPRAH,SHE DOES NOT PAY HER GUEST

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In order

there is no need to talk to the media.
I see the plan for the civil suit because there is a slim chance of winning this in a real court, even if it makes it past the *stand your ground* hearing.
back to there is no reason to be in the media.

As for Doprah, why is she even part of this?

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Only because you brought it up. and

I see plenty of people killed and the family never has a laywer as the state handles the prosecution.

you have to play to the public just like the defense did to win an impression or imagine

the defense started with lots of propaganda


it war!

STAND YOUR GROUND LAW WON'T PROTECT ZIMMERMAN BUT HIS ATTORNEY WILL FILE A MOTON FOR IT ANY WHO

stand your ground law does not protect zimmerman

Author and NRA member Dave Kopel says Florida law does not protect George Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin shooting.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?iid=articl...-kopel-one.cnn

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Only because you brought it up. and

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Again I am confused by what you believe and what you're surrounded by.

MIRANDA RIGHTS
"You have the right to speak to an attorney.
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.".

So what's your question again?

Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin, pursued him, frightened him, confronted him then shot him during a struggle, prosecutors alleged Thursday.

That's what the probable-cause affidavit filed Thursday by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey reveals. It is the first look at the criminal case that prosecutors plan to mount against Zimmerman.


The account is strikingly similar to the story that Trayvon's parents, the family's attorneys and civil-rights leaders have told for weeks — that Trayvon was an innocent victim hunted down and killed because he was black.

Herr found the affidavit legally sufficient to establish probable cause and ordered Zimmerman to appear for arraignment — when defendants formally enter a plea — on May 29 before Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler.

But the probable-cause affidavit, prepared by two investigators in her office, spelled out the bare bones of her case.

To Trayvon, it says, Zimmerman was a scary man, following him for some unknown reason. To Zimmerman, Trayvon was someone who was about to commit a crime, "a f------ punk," the affidavit said.

The affidavit offered evidence the state's position on three key points:

•"Zimmerman confronted Martin," it says, an apparent contradiction of Zimmerman's version of events.

•The state will argue that the voice heard crying for help in the background of one 911 call is Trayvon's. According to the affidavit, Trayvon's mother listened to the recording and identified the voice as her son's.

•State investigators will rely on the testimony of a friend of Trayvon's who told them she talked to the teenager on the phone in the lead-up to the shooting and heard the confrontation.

Based on the description, she appears to be the girl described by Martin family attorneys as his girlfriend.

When interviewed by state investigators, "The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn't know why," the affidavit said.

Trayvon tried to run home, the affidavit says, but Zimmerman ignored the advice of a police dispatcher and continued pursuing him on foot.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-show-accident

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Originally Posted by jamesedwards

Again I am confused by what you believe and what you're surrounded by.

MIRANDA RIGHTS
"You have the right to speak to an attorney.
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.".

So what's your question again?

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Martins family was read its rights??? I didn't know that.

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Originally Posted by buds

Martins family was read its rights??? I didn't know that.

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:whoa You are one of those huh?

You claimed you seen people killed am I correct?
"I see plenty of people killed and the family never has a laywer as the state handles the prosecution"

So I put up the Miranda's rights to let you see that if you don't have a lawyer the courts will appoint one for you, just as a guide, no Trayvon's parents weren't arrested, but they need an attorney, not STATE APPOINTED PROSECUTORS to handle other things like a civil suit against the police station etc.

Now what I meant when I said Natina should be the attorney on the case it could mean the prosecution or personal attorney because Natina has a lot of facts and she present them well. So you shouldn't be confused. All in all the prosecution is not only for the state guy but for Trayvon's family as well.

Yes i am one of "those".
Posting stuff found on the internet does not make a laywer only a researcher. Just like the guy who kills someone might not be a murderer.........

Gotta love the innocent untill proven guilty mentality here. I'm sorry for trying to bring another side to your media fed lynching.

I'll go away now

innocent until proven guilty is only in the courts

a citizen can say you Are guilty until proven innocent or you are highly suspect so do not trust you but that could make you paranoid.
you have o use your best judgment

Natina is correct, the public has no burden of proof. Funny isn't it...that the police on the scene interpreted the SYG law as saying that Zimmerman had no burden of proof either before he found Trayvon guilty of being a life threatening, skittles armed, hoodie wearing, African-American seventeen year old kid and sot him dead? What's good for the goose...

Ok, on the contrary to what you said, I have worked in the legal system for 12 years so ummmmm don't do the "THINK YOU KNOW WHO I AM" and the things Natina is pointing out and showing is actual evidence, yet you have provided none yet only babble about what should and who shouldn't rhetoric. Counter act her evidence IF YOU CAN!!!

Fact is Zimmerman killed a teen in cold blood if you can even find the imf of an inkling of logical proof to prove that wrong, I will take my hat off to you!!!

You also tell me how the hell can a teen be called a dam John Doe for three days and they got his info, you tell me that Mr. You know what the fuck you're talking about. You tell me how the hell a man goes to neighborhood watch training and the rule says 1. don't carry a weapon 2. don't engage a person call the police. Zimmerman violated both rules, why? Because he intended to shoot someone that's why he carried the dam gun. You tell me what he carried it for, decorations? Zimmerman : "OH I THINK I WILL CARRY A LOADED GUN BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO BEAUTIFUL ON MY HIP". Fuck outta here with that crap!!!

You tell me how the fuck Zimmerman assault and officer of the law in 2005 and get released then kills a teen and gets released when he was docked in a manslaughter position on a police report then let go. How the hell the Police Dept say he had a clean record when he also assaulted his girlfriend and she got a restraining order against him. This clearly shows he is a violate ass man he has a dam history, so is that a lie too?

Did he not kill the teen? How the hell Zimmerman say he got clocked over his head on his left side at his SUV when the SUV was not where they were? They were inside the dam complex on THE GRASS!!! This is stated by witnesses. So you mean Trayvon dragged him all the way in the gated community? If you heard the tape Zimmerman said himself Trayvon ran around a corner, and you can hear Zimmerman get out of his car and go after him, FROM HIS SUV!!! Zimmerman is a coward and he lied.

Also are you trying to tell me the records of Tray's girlfriend is not adequate evidence that you can hear Trayvon saying "SOMEONE IS FOLLOWING ME"? This is pure evidence that Zimmerman went after Trayvon and THE STAND YOUR GROUND DON'T APPLY TO HIS ASS!! and I can go on and on!!!

There's so much evidence on this clown it's pathetic he should be locked away!!!

In this case Zimmerman is a murderer!!! A killer pick your poison!!!

Plus you're talking to the wrong person, at best your aim is very week!!!

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Originally Posted by buds

Yes i am one of "those".
Posting stuff found on the internet does not make a laywer only a researcher. Just like the guy who kills someone might not be a murderer.........

Gotta love the innocent untill proven guilty mentality here. I'm sorry for trying to bring another side to your media fed lynching.

I'll go away now

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Natina is correct, the public has no burden of proof. Funny isn't it...that the police on the scene interpreted the SYG law as saying that Zimmerman had no burden of proof either before he found Trayvon guilty of being a life threatening, skittles armed, hoodie wearing, African-American seventeen year old kid and sot him dead? What's good for the goose...

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Exactly, these Zimmerman supporters they look so stupid supporting him, it's their right to do so but in the process they look stupid, and they know it. They can't give one shred of logical evidence that shows Zimmerman is innocent.

A Mother's Day Message From Trayvon's Mom: VIDEO

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv


Here's a Mother's Day message from Sabrina Fulton, mother of Trayvon Martin, made in partnership with "Second Chance on Shoot First" -- an organization which combats laws, such as Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, that encourage nervous gun owners to shoot in haste and repent at leisure.
Watch the video AFTER THE JUMP, and pay a visit to Second Chance on Shoot First, which allows American visitors to see where their states stand on Stand Your Ground, and provides links to the appropriate state webpages so visitors can tell their governments how they feel about it.



http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv