IMUS IMUS IMUS.........................

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Originally Posted by freak

Jackson and Sharpton are about Jackson and Sharpton, they just use the black community for there own personal gain. Jackson forgave Jimmy the Greek but the networks never did, Howard Cosell too was banished for good for saying look at the monkey go. If a white leader said it is in NIGGER TOWN or BEANER VILLE, they would never be heard from again unlike Jesse Jackson. If a white mayor smoked crack he would never work in politics again let alone become mayor again. There is a a double standard when it comes to what people say, if Jesse Jackson said CRACKER TOWN it would have never been anything but he picked on the Jews so he had to pay.

Oh I remember another Rev. Sharpton riot, when the Jewish guy hit the 2 black kids and the ambulance took the Jewish guy first, he lied and said the paramedics refused to treat the children, when they did and there was nothing they could do and another ambulance was there already. He got 4 Jewish people killed in the riots, 4 innocent people killed because they were jewish and he stood up for the rioters. That is why they do more harm then good.

The 60's are over, it is now 2007 no need to keep opening up those wounds.

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Says you. How can you possibly know what is in their heart or heads? What do you know about the black community? You're exactly the type of person I've depicted upstream, in that you come from a perspective that can't possibly understand or relate to what a minority goes through, or has been through in the past. In your mind it's 2007, so we've reached Utopia and anyone challenging the status quo MUST BE out for their own personal gain, right? Talk about detached and out of touch with reality?! Both Jackson and Sharpton are products of the '60s civil Rights era, with Jackson being present when King was assasinated or did you forget, and you think he's forgotten that and out for pure personal gain? That he sold out? That he likes having his past brought up and having his name ridiculed in thousands of forums such as this one or on TV and radio by his critics and detractors? I don't.

What are you are failing to see is that they, Jackson and Sharpton, are not in the positions of power that those they take on are. People in the power or privileged class are generally not looking for affirmation or acceptance, so a white leader isn't likely to proclaim "White Power". HE ALREADY HAS POWER. Those in power who have never been oppressed in one form or another aren't crying to be let into the club. They don't need to challenge the status quo -- they make the status quo. A double standard generally comes into play when both parties are ostensibly equal, and that just isn't the case yet. I'm not saying certainly that I always agree with their methods, but I do see the need for them.

Again, you want to give me the name of one white leader on the forefront of Civil Rights today, or someone out correcting the racist and sexist remarks of a Don Imus? C'mon, surely one like you who knows what a Jackson or Sharpton is all about can surely provide a name or model of behavior in mind.

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

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Originally Posted by freak

The 60's are over, it is now 2007 no need to keep opening up those wounds.

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The wounds never healed though :cry:

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You seem like a cool person and this in no way is a personal attack but have you ever stopped and asked yourself why the wounds have never healed?Asked yourself why the cops pull you over due to the color of your skin.Why Imus makes inflamatory comments?Perhaps if black america looked inward to see the problem instead of blaming "The Man" for everything,healing might have a chance to take hold.

How long do we have to be reminded that the reasons for the double standards are because of slavery?How many years and generations has to pass before slavery is no longer a crutch to justify double standards and reverse racism?

Have you ever studied the country of Liberia,why it was created and why it has the problems it still has today?The US government assisted in establishing that country as an independant nation for former slaves to return to Africa if they so chose.America was wrong on the slavery issue and admitted as much and offered Liberia as a way to fix the problem.Yet today Liberia is only just beginning to get its act together.Why?Do we blame "the man" here as well?

Pretty much every race and religion has been persecuted through the times at some point and yet most of these people have stood up brushed themselves off and made life better for themselves,yet when black america continues to live life according to their own rules and clearly through actions and words have declared themselves different and entitled to behaviour that is privy to just them,America has to accept it due to slavery.Chapelle says "nigga" its funny..Imus says "nappy headed" he loses his job.why? Because of slavery and how hard life is for a black person in America is what i keep hearing. You can make excuses all day long,but its a double standard which reinforces the differences between black and white america.

Dont you think that if black leaders spent as much time and effort and money ridding the black community of gangsters,gangster rappers who glorify an outlaw lifestyle,putting real money into education and jobs for the black community instead of blaming Imus and his kind for all the problems that beset the community then perhaps the healing process might proceed?

From a person who's grandfather was a black man.

I have 1 question, answer it honestly.

Had CBS and MSNBC held their ground and NOT fired Imus, what really would have happened??

These are billion dollar corporations, boycotts would not have hurt them.

I say their would have been marches outside their headquarters for a few days, maybe weeks, then they would just go away. Saying you wont purchase products from Staples or Proctor and Gamble or GM wouldnt hurt those companies either. Things like that are near impossible to carry out. People would forget this whole story and go back to their regular habits of buying what they always tend to .

The threats from Sharpton and Jackson were hollow and werent gonna accomplish a thing.

So why did CBS and MSNBC panic?????

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Originally Posted by Kramer

So why did CBS and MSNBC panic?????

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Maybe because their reputations are on the line?


If the threats by Jackson or Sharpton were hollow and weren't going to accomplish a thing, why are you panicking? What have you got against a minority making inroads through the media?

Enlighten me.

why are you panicking? What have you got against a minority making inroads through the media?


With all due respect, I dont understand your question.

Realgirls4me,
I read your response to me. And I'm not ignoring it. I respect your comments deeply but so much has happen since I was last on line, I must digress. So I'm going to go off on another tangent. I accept many of your points, but I won't address them here since so much has been posted and so much has happened.

Imus is off the airwaves. Everyone is talking about it. I walked into a bar at 6:00pm tonight. I didn't know Imus had been fired from CBS. I found out quickly. And then the silent majority spoke. I said to myself, shit this is fucking wierd. All of a sudden there is a race war where there wasn't one. I click through the talking heads, Bill O'Rielly is in Ireland vowing to hold the rappers accountable to the same standard. This is getting like Germany in the thirties.

Patrice O'Neil (black) said this would happen a few days ago on Hannity & Combs and yesterday and today on Opie and Anthony. I think this is the day PC jumps the shark. We are letting free speech being taken away from us. The silent majority is taking notice and getting off their chairs. What a fucking mess. The media believes we are not competent enough to change the channel.

Do you see what I'm saying? Am I making a mountain out of a molehill?

This is really scary, not only for me but also for you.

And Legend,
I read your posts, laughed.....and said what a tool! Keep posting you silly little douche bag, you! It's your right as an American! Look forward to your saliva dripping response! Remember, keep your mouth away from the keyboard when typing.

ezed,

The firestorm will turn to embers, trust me. What I do hope to get from all of this though, is that others not have their Freedom of Speech taken away from them, but that they are finally held accountable for the slop they consistently serve as Imus was. It would be patently unfair to make Imus a scapegoat for idiots who have made a wonderful living peddling that slop. Have you ever heard what Neal Boortz or Ann Coulter have said, and should they be allowed to continue with their crap unscrutinized?

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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me

ezed,

The firestorm will turn to embers, trust me. What I do hope to get from all of this though, is that others not have their Freedom of Speech taken away from them, but that they are finally held accountable for the slop they consistently serve as Imus was. It would be patently unfair to make Imus a scapegoat for idiots who have made a wonderful living peddling that slop. Have you ever heard what Neal Boortz or Ann Coulter have said, and should they be allowed to continue with their crap unscrutinized?

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Yes they serve slop, but if we change the channel they will fade away. Keep it in our hands not in the hands of the talking heads.

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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me

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Originally Posted by Kramer

So why did CBS and MSNBC panic?????

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Maybe because their reputations are on the line.

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I doubt that they fired him over their reputation,his sponsors probably pulled thus his firing,from my understanding a third of his sponsors pulled within a couple of days.This guy has spewed his garbage for years and yet they kept him on the payroll,it's just in this day and age everything has to be politically correct thats why sponsors probably pulled.It's a shame that they fired him over money and not the bases of his racist bullshit.