Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
ZIMMERMAN IS A LYING SACK OF SHIT!
THOSE INTERVIEWS HE DID WHERE HE KEPT CHANGING HIS STORY IS PROOF.
florida will take care of zimmerman and the civil lawsuit will make him broke
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
the police said zimmerman could of avoided the incident in several ways
zimmerman created a hostile scary enviroment
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Detective faulted George Zimmerman for not avoiding confrontation with Trayvon Martin.
ARGUMENT FOR NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE
Neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman missed two opportunities to try to peacefully approach Trayvon Martin before he fatally shot the unarmed teenager, according to an investigator's report released Tuesday.
"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog in an effort to dispel each party's concern," investigator Chris Serino wrote in an arrest warrant affidavit.
The affidavit was filed more than two weeks after the shooting when the Sanford Police Department was being criticized for not having arrested Zimmerman. Serino's March 13 affidavit recommended Zimmerman be picked up for manslaughter, but a special prosecutor assigned to take over the case upped the charge to second-degree murder.
The documents released Tuesday are part of the public pre-trial records .Zimmerman, 28, maintains he feared for his life and shot Martin in self-defense under Florida's "stand your ground law." He said he fired the fatal shot only after being ambushed and brutally attacked by the 17-year-old.
The deadly encounter occurred in a gated Sanford, Fla., neighborhood where Zimmerman lived and Martin was staying with a family friend. Zimmerman called 911 to report Martin as a suspicious person walking through the area. He told the operator Martin was "up to no good" and "has his hand in his waist band."
In the report released Tuesday, police say Zimmerman contradicted himself by saying that he was initially fearful of Martin but later got out of his vehicle and followed after the teen.
"His actions are inconsistent with those of a person who has stated he was in fear of another subject," Serino wrote.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...192523670.html
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Investigator: Zimmerman missed opportunities to defuse situation
(CNN) -- George Zimmerman failed to identify himself twice during a confrontation with Trayvon Martin and missed opportunities to defuse the situation that led to the death of the teen, a detective says in a newly released report.
Zimmerman, who served as a neighborhood watch volunteer, is charged with second-degree murder in the February 26 shooting death of Martin, 17, in Sanford, Florida.
Martin's family and civil rights activists said Zimmerman, who is white and Hispanic, racially profiled Martin and ignored a 911 dispatcher's advice not to follow him.
Also released Tuesday was an unredacted capias request, a request that someone be taken into custody, prepared by the lead police investigator in the case, Christopher Serino.
"Investigative findings show that (Zimmerman) had at least two opportunities to speak with (Martin) in order to defuse the circumstances surrounding their encounter," Serino wrote in the report. "On at least two occasions (Zimmerman) failed to identify himself as a concerned resident or a neighborhood watch volunteer."
The detective also said Zimmerman's actions "are inconsistent with those of a person who has stated he was in fear of another subject."
In the same report, Serino wrote that Zimmerman's injuries were "marginally consistent with a life-threatening violent episode as described by him."
Mark O'Mara, Zimmerman's defense attorney, said it will be up to a judge and jury to interpret what Serino's report means to the case.
"I don't want to get into a battle with investigator Serino's report considering what he believed after it seems he made the decision that charges should be filed," O'Mara said Tuesday.
"The lead detective made the determination at least on two different occasions Zimmerman had opportunity to defuse the situation. When he got out the car, he could have at least said, 'I'm a neighborhood watch volunteer' to defuse the situation and it's likely Trayvon Martin would be living today," Crump said.
"The lead detective today got demoted.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/justic...ss_igoogle_cnn
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I have held back posting on this thread waiting for the actual facts and court trial to happen. There are no winners with this event and Martin loss his life. The jury was able to focus on what happened in the court room and make their decision. Zimmerman went into the trial after over a year of spinning-of-facts, altered voice recordings, claimed to be a racist, call a white/ Hispanic (what?), etc. The local police and prosecutor saw it for what it was- self-defense. Not until the usual race and hate mongers came to town (news media, Jackson, Sharpton, Black Panthers, Obama, Holder, DoJ) did this get ramped-up with a special prosecutor appointed.
Unfortunately for Martin he chooses to fight a man with a CPL and used his firearm it to end the assault. He could have continued walking to where he was staying. Instead he came back to confront Zimmerman.
Neighborhood watches have been going on for years. Around my house we are more aware than ever with crime on the rise. Section 8 housing has brought a lot of the bad elements into the area. Guess what, they walk down the street (our sidewalks are fine) with their hoodies pulled way over their heads, and slowly go by cars looking into the windows. They are ‘scouting’. Later that night the window gets knocked-out and items get taken. Cities are cutting back on staff so when you call to report that a strange guy is scouting cars maybe they’ll send a cop in 45 minutes or so. The next day the cops come and make the report for the stuff stolen. Two of these thugs were ‘greeted’, told we’re onto what they’re doing, cops have been called, and get the fuck out of our neighborhood. B&E’s, even some broad daylight hold-ups have been happening. As GZ said, “they always get away”.
Now where is the outrage over all of the killing in Chicago? Oh, that’s Holder’s old stomping grounds.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
For me it comes down to if you believe that Zimmerman was telling the truth. However it seem like details of his story changed. Also there was the incident for which his wife is still charged over lying to the court regarding his finances. It impossible to believe that he was not working with his wife to cheat the system.
That seems to be evidence that he lied, or supported someone else lying.
It seems illogical that a past domestic violence, or whatever it was, was not able to be used as evidence of past behavior. Isn't that stuff a matter of public record? And it goes directly to the matter of violent intent. Much was made over Trayvon's marijuana use, but my understanding that Zimmerman, had been prescribed medications. Side effects of medications are public knowledge. Why should this information be excluded from the decision making process, once he took someone's life? He had to have had a diagnosis, to have been given prescriptions. How hypocritical is to use drugs as a possible cause of behavior for Martin, but excluded from evidence of the person that killed him?
By the way, does anyone know if it is legal to follow people, besides Florida? If it's only a matter of public safety, shapely young women or even a decent sized child could be able to commit a crime? So then, I could follow people around, for the sake of crime prevention. Then of course, I would get a legal permit to carry a gun, too. The future looks bright for us perverts, I mean, concerned citizens, responsible gun owners.
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Now where is the outrage over all of the killing in Chicago? Oh, that’s Holder’s old stomping grounds.
We would not be human, if we did not fell outraged over the killing in Chicago. We are human beings. But we also have the right to be outraged at someone who admits killing someone, to walk free without even having to submit to a drug test. People these days have to summit to drug tests for practically everything, including driving a vehicle. Zimmerman had been driving a vehicle, plus he killed someone. But I do suppose that killing a Black person, is not that big of deal to be inconvenienced. It's not like he made a sudden lane change, or something.
You statement is like saying, that if most White women who are raped, are raped by White men, including family members, You should not care that much if one was raped by a Black man. After all the 'real important'
issue is the rape done by fellow Whites. Yet, recent history there is records of Whites burning aown entire Black towns, over an alleged rape rumor, or brutally murdered over an improper remark, in the case of Emmit Till.
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Black Americans are the most incarcerated population on planet Earth. And this woman had a court protection order against the person whom she fired the warning shots for.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...warning-shots/
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Zimmerman's still a punk.
What started out as a bunch of paranoia driven stupid that got out of hand, has now become a state sanctioned lynching. It'll be interesting to see how fast he cashes in by lending his name to a ghost writer who'll fill up a volume with a list of cliches about standing one's ground, or myths about the enforcement powers of the neighborhood watch.
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Most of us treat carrying a weapon the way we do wearing shoes or carrying a wallet...
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Shoes or wallet DON'T kill ...........
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Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
I've criticized the media in this case for their poor performance of just reporting the facts. If the Prosecution 'had a good day', then report it. If the Defense 'had a good day', then report that, too. Don't pretend that the Defense never put up a case.
Stephen A. Smith of ESPN, a network which revolves around sports, and not politics, said he was angry at the verdict at first, but them he looked at the testimony for himself, without the filter of the media, via youtube, and he understands the verdict.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67WhBlXssUA
