are men who date transwomen gay?

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Originally Posted by yosi

are transwomen men? if transwomen are men , those who date them are gay.

because transWOMEN are NOT men , those who date them are not gay .

simple logic :peanutbutter

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"simple logic?" lolz, more like simple denial... half the posts in this thread read like guys trying to justify their non-gayness to themselves and others so they can "appear" straight.... i, like everyone else, am on here because i like ts. but i am NOT straight. i'm out as bi-sexual. if i had to break it down, i'd say i like guys about 50% and ts about 50%. pretty sure i'm just gay, but i use the bi label to include ts girls.

imo the labeling confusion happens because ts are not technically a gender, and there is no term for someone who is attracted to them; yet, i'm pretty sure that that term isn't straight. i mean, what would you do if someone you knew saw you in public kissing a ts and later asked if you were gay? what would you say? uh, um... no, i'm straight, even though i was just kissing someone born a male. it will just look like you are hiding something, trying not to be gay/bi, whether you don't want to admit it to yourself or your friends. and some wonder why ts call guys on this board gay? cause we are.. obv.

i hope so im very very happy

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Originally Posted by droog

imo the labeling confusion happens because ts are not technically a gender, and there is no term for someone who is attracted to them

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you can find here in this board that transWOMEN , technically or not technically ARE a gender , the facts are in front of your eyes , it's up to you to see them or ignore them.

the labeling confusion happens because of poeple who prefer the 2 dimensions POV ( true , it makes life look easier and less complicated that way :dancing:) ,but if you look deeper you can see that there is a third dimension which gives life more depth ( our planet is NOT flat - not two dimensions....... )

back to this thread's subject : transWOMEN are not men , so those who date them are NOT gay

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Originally Posted by goku

This is a question that I posed to myself on several occasions. First, let me tell my story.......

I was first interested in Transsexuals about 9 years ago. It was just something that I ran across on the internet, and I would occasionally add to my porn collection. Never acted upon it in real life. Well, about 4 years ago, my then girlfriend came upon my TS porn. She was furious, and immediately questioned my sexual orientation, something I had never thought about up until that point.

We made an attempt to resume our relationship, but she would always make jokes about it whenever she got angry. She also kept saying that I should investigate my interest. Needless to say, we eventually broke up for other reasons, and it got ugly. In an effort to hurt me for calling it quits, she outed me to her friends, and any people I knew that she could get her hands on, including my mom.

Let me clarify, I don't consider myself gay as I don't enjoy the male form one bit. Muscles and mustaches do absolutely nothing for me. I am not in any shape or form feminine. I am a typical 6'2 200lb guy. I enjoy everything about the female form. The softness, shape, clothing, perfume, hair, and everything else associated with females.

As stated, the whole TS thing started as a fetish for me, but since then I have actually realized that I am not afraid. Hell, anybody I actually care about already knows anyway!

What I don't get, being a guy not really in the whole scene, is the fighting that goes on between TS women and men who are interested. Maybe I am a little naive about the whole thing but, shouldn't a girl be happy that guys are accepting of them? What's with all the calling guys gay and all that?

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:iagree: Was with a well know tranny a few weeks ago, and after we did our thing , we had the "no , i am really not gay, not into guys, and i don't want ure gayfriend to join us" diccussion (This is not the 1st time) I don't mind explaining myself once, but it gets a little old after that... Ladies I am just saying: I respect your sexuality, pls have a lil respect 4 mine...

Yes and the moon is made of cheese

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Originally Posted by droog

"simple logic?" lolz, more like simple denial... half the posts in this thread read like guys trying to justify their non-gayness to themselves and others so they can "appear" straight.... i, like everyone else, am on here because i like ts. but i am NOT straight. i'm out as bi-sexual. if i had to break it down, i'd say i like guys about 50% and ts about 50%. pretty sure i'm just gay, but i use the bi label to include ts girls.

imo the labeling confusion happens because ts are not technically a gender, and there is no term for someone who is attracted to them; yet, i'm pretty sure that that term isn't straight. i mean, what would you do if someone you knew saw you in public kissing a ts and later asked if you were gay? what would you say? uh, um... no, i'm straight, even though i was just kissing someone born a male. it will just look like you are hiding something, trying not to be gay/bi, whether you don't want to admit it to yourself or your friends. and some wonder why ts call guys on this board gay? cause we are.. obv.

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That's pretty biased, what with calling tg's gay and all. I don't mind admitting anything, but labeling it and people who like tg's as predominantly gay or bi is just silly. Labeling itself should have died centuries ago, but what can you do. I like tg's, passable tv's and very feminine guys who sport make-up. If that feminine guy were to suddenly put on 50 lbs of muscle and grow a beard that would probably kill it for me. I don't jerk off to George Michael or a younger Elton John, nor do I have pictures of Jeff Stryker on my computer.

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Originally Posted by yosi

transWOMEN are not men , so those who date them are NOT gay

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neither are they women as defined in any english dictionary so those who date them are not straight.

gay or not, straight or not, don`t know don`t care. it is what it is.

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