the chicago tribune....get your washed face here !

I was chatting early and there was noone in there, and I just don't like how the degrading of looks keeps going on towards the females on the board. Especially when it's cowardly and unfair, when they don't have the decensy to show their own flesh. Half these men you know as well as I do, if one on one with any of the girls in this thread would be on their knees trying to suck something up. I just find it pathetic they have to degrade a girls looks, instead of picking a weak point of the girls argument.

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Fine, it was stupid thread to begin with. Any chats going on tonight?

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Kelly, Mimi is the one who started this thread. Then she posted several photos of Hontas. This thread has been nasty from the start, a few guys have joined in on one side or another. most of us guys have comented on how silly the whole thread is. Again,. yes, Mimi and Brenda should stay away from each other. No email, not textmessages, no phone calls, no et cetera.

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I honestly don't see why the boys jumped in it at all, they are just degrading all the girls in the thread it loks like to me. Including Julie.

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Kelly, I think you and Julie have made the best points on this thread. But. I'm confused, is this not a public thread? Is it only a thread for the girls? Again, if something is posted on HA why can't anyone respond to it? Please do exlpain.

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Braveman, because before all the new smart ass comments came from the guys. The girls were settling the dispute and leaving it alone. Then the men thriving on drama, attacked making the girls respond to equal out what was said to them in a degrading nature. Yes, I just said that would come into play. It's a public board, however if you really want the "drama" to stop why flame out to start it again?

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Again if you look at page 13 Mimi was leaving it alone as well as Brenda. Then it became a debate between Julie, Nicole, Brenda and Mimi. They settled it. Then men kept bumping it to degrade the girls. I didn't see the girls degrading the mens looks, just saying to show their real selves. They did degrade their avatars, but not them personally.

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I was chatting early and there was noone in there, and I just don't like how the degrading of looks keeps going on towards the females on the board. Especially when it's cowardly and unfair, when they don't have the decensy to show their own flesh. Half these men you know as well as I do, if one on one with any of the girls in this thread would be on their knees trying to suck something up. I just find it pathetic they have to degrade a girls looks, instead of picking a weak point of the girls argument.

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Fine, it was stupid thread to begin with. Any chats going on tonight?

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Kelly, Mimi is the one who started this thread. Then she posted several photos of Hontas. This thread has been nasty from the start, a few guys have joined in on one side or another. most of us guys have comented on how silly the whole thread is. Again,. yes, Mimi and Brenda should stay away from each other. No email, not textmessages, no phone calls, no et cetera.

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I honestly don't see why the boys jumped in it at all, they are just degrading all the girls in the thread it loks like to me. Including Julie.

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Kelly, I think you and Julie have made the best points on this thread. But. I'm confused, is this not a public thread? Is it only a thread for the girls? Again, if something is posted on HA why can't anyone respond to it? Please do exlpain.

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Braveman, because before all the new smart ass comments came from the guys. The girls were settling the dispute and leaving it alone. Then the men thriving on drama, attacked making the girls respond to equal out what was said to them in a degrading nature. Yes, I just said that would come into play. It's a public board, however if you really want the "drama" to stop why flame out to start it again?

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Again if you look at page 13 Mimi was leaving it alone as well as Brenda. Then it became a debate between Julie, Nicole, Brenda and Mimi. They settled it. Then men kept bumping it to degrade the girls. I didn't see the girls degrading the mens looks, just saying to show their real selves. They did degrade their avatars, but not them personally.

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btw do you like my new pic i put on 10 pounds !!!!

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I like your new pic, but I personally think you look better more natural like in your you-tube videos.

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this pic is going up on my add . thats what its for :) I LIKE YOUR PIC TOO you look my age (22)

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Thank u. I am serious put a natural picture in your ad. I am not saying it in a bad way. Anyone can put on a lot of makeup, have hair all done with a beaded dress, thats what is expected. If a girl can show a close up of her face with little makeup and not all painted up then you show fish and guys want the fishyest looking they can find. When I saw your you tube videos I honestly surprised.

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yea i love make up and hair but you are so right about that .....it's just that i have never put a washed face pic on my add and lord knows i could i am just scared ....lol they are so used to this rhinestoned lashed out look
it would be a shock to change them now !!! BUT i am doing better than before my transition into more natural looks has to come more progressively this shoot i had on alot of rhinestones and less make up than last time ...but thank you for the advice :)

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thank you so much ... i was with my little brother and sister :) posing lol

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this pic is going up on my add . thats what its for :) I LIKE YOUR PIC TOO you look my age (22)

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Thank u. I am serious put a natural picture in your ad. I am not saying it in a bad way. Anyone can put on a lot of makeup, have hair all done with a beaded dress, thats what is expected. If a girl can show a close up of her face with little makeup and not all painted up then you show fish and guys want the fishyest looking they can find. When I saw your you tube videos I honestly surprised.

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yea i love make up and hair but you are so right about that .....it's just that i have never put a washed face pic on my add and lord knows i could i am just scared ....lol they are so used to this rhinestoned lashed out look
it would be a shock to change them now !!! BUT i am doing better than before my transition into more natural looks has to come more progressively this shoot i had on alot of rhinestones and less make up than last time ...but thank you for the advice :)

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thank you so much ... i was with my little brother and sister :) posing lol

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your welcome anytime :) Oh yeah how come we havent seen you in the new chat yet?

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This conversation so far does not make either of us look smart at all


Julie let's talk for real for a minute.

You and I are both TS's. Members of the club always recognize eachother. That to other TS's and people with allot of experience looking at TS's I don't pass means almost nothing. People with such experience can always clock any and every TS who ever lived anywhere. That is a fact.

The reason I have trouble finding a regular old job is because all one needs to do to find out I was born a male is a minimal bakckground check. Even after all papers are in order, after all operations have been had, that will still be true. Then there are preconceived notions of what work a transsexual would be good at or could do. Just stop for a moment and look at how some people here are acting about my career path. Basically education does not reduce prejudice.

Accepting what you have just said about yourself I would be able to ask of you the same questions. With a 140 IQ why haven't you done more with your life. I just don't ask because I know the answer. IQ does not predict sucess. Education does not gurantee a job. I know that you just like anyone else are just doing what it takes to survive.

That there is real talk.

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well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

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This conversation so far does not make either of us look smart at all


Julie let's talk for real for a minute.

You and I are both TS's. Members of the club always recognize eachother. That to other TS's and people with allot of experience looking at TS's I don't pass means almost nothing. People with such experience can always clock any and every TS who ever lived anywhere. That is a fact.

The reason I have trouble finding a regular old job is because all one needs to do to find out I was born a male is a minimal bakckground check. Even after all papers are in order, after all operations have been had, that will still be true. Then there are preconceived notions of what work a transsexual would be good at or could do. Just stop for a moment and look at how some people here are acting about my career path. Basically education does not reduce prejudice.

Accepting what you have just said about yourself I would be able to ask of you the same questions. With a 140 IQ why haven't you done more with your life. I just don't ask because I know the answer. IQ does not predict sucess. Education does not gurantee a job. I know that you just like anyone else are just doing what it takes to survive.

That there is real talk.

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well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

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Money isn't the issue there are organizations like lambada legal who would represent in a discrimination case for free.

The problem as always is proving that there was in fact discrimination. So far the people I have dealt with have been real smart about this and not just said "we will not hire you (or changed our minds) because you are a tranny." It has to be that blatant before any law will kick in. Not to mention that if the organization is a federal contractor or the fed govt. they can discriminate based on "gender identity or expression". There is no law covering them.

It's partly my fault. People have a fixed idea in their head of how a research scientist is supposed to look and act. That image clashes with the image of a transsexual woman. At lest it does in the minds of the ignorant. (This is when I honestly think to myself "why didn't I just go to beauty school?")

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This conversation so far does not make either of us look smart at all


Julie let's talk for real for a minute.

You and I are both TS's. Members of the club always recognize eachother. That to other TS's and people with allot of experience looking at TS's I don't pass means almost nothing. People with such experience can always clock any and every TS who ever lived anywhere. That is a fact.

The reason I have trouble finding a regular old job is because all one needs to do to find out I was born a male is a minimal bakckground check. Even after all papers are in order, after all operations have been had, that will still be true. Then there are preconceived notions of what work a transsexual would be good at or could do. Just stop for a moment and look at how some people here are acting about my career path. Basically education does not reduce prejudice.

Accepting what you have just said about yourself I would be able to ask of you the same questions. With a 140 IQ why haven't you done more with your life. I just don't ask because I know the answer. IQ does not predict sucess. Education does not gurantee a job. I know that you just like anyone else are just doing what it takes to survive.

That there is real talk.

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well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

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Money isn't the issue there are organizations like lambada legal who would represent in a discrimination case for free.

The problem as always is proving that there was in fact discrimination. So far the people I have dealt with have been real smart about this and not just said "we will not hire you (or changed our minds) because you are a tranny." It has to be that blatant before any law will kick in. Not to mention that if the organization is a federal contractor or the fed govt. they can discriminate based on "gender identity or expression". There is no law covering them.

It's partly my fault. People have a fixed idea in their head of how a research scientist is supposed to look and act. That image clashes with the image of a transsexual woman. At lest it does in the minds of the ignorant. (This is when I honestly think to myself "why didn't I just go to beauty school?")

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I FELL U..I MEAN ITS ALWAYS LEGAL NAME CHANGE..I KNOW WHEN I GOT MINE CHANGED AND WENT TO DMV THEY CHANGE THE SEX..ALL MY PAPERS SAY FEMALE EVEN MY PASSPORT..SO U SHOULD TRY IT..I'VE WORKED A PLEANTY OF JOBS WITH OUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNOW MY T..BUT I KNOW WHEN I WAS TRANSITIONING ..I HAD A NICE JOB WORKING FOR UNIVERSITY OF MARLAND SCHOOL OF MEDICINE..THEY PULLED ONE OF THOSE LIL TRICKS ON ME..ONCE I WENT FULL TIME..SO AFTER THAT I DECIDED TO MAKE SURE NEXT TIME I GET A JOB I GO IN AS A WOMAN WITH PROPER LEGAL PAPER WORK SO I WONT GO THROUGH THAT BULLSHIT AGAIN.. FELL ME

LOL YALL GIRLS NEED TO CALL MTV AND GET A REALITY SHOW..RATINGS WOULD BE TO THE MOON..

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This conversation so far does not make either of us look smart at all


Julie let's talk for real for a minute.

You and I are both TS's. Members of the club always recognize eachother. That to other TS's and people with allot of experience looking at TS's I don't pass means almost nothing. People with such experience can always clock any and every TS who ever lived anywhere. That is a fact.

The reason I have trouble finding a regular old job is because all one needs to do to find out I was born a male is a minimal bakckground check. Even after all papers are in order, after all operations have been had, that will still be true. Then there are preconceived notions of what work a transsexual would be good at or could do. Just stop for a moment and look at how some people here are acting about my career path. Basically education does not reduce prejudice.

Accepting what you have just said about yourself I would be able to ask of you the same questions. With a 140 IQ why haven't you done more with your life. I just don't ask because I know the answer. IQ does not predict sucess. Education does not gurantee a job. I know that you just like anyone else are just doing what it takes to survive.

That there is real talk.

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Why haven't I dont more with my life, are you kidding with that question. Hmmm lets see. I will try to give a quick wrap of my life story in a few sentences.

First off, yes I am an escort but go read my Eros ad I am not around during the afternoons because I have other obligations. I am not some bitch sitting up in a hotel room for weeks on end doing nothing. So if thats where your trying to go with this then your very misinformed, I escort on the side, and its a very small part of my life.

I started transition out of high school. I have traveled the world, transitioned successfully, owned 2 homes, had many new cars, boyfriends, been engaged 2 times then a 3rd to some trick that I was working but that doesn't count lol, been to school, had several jobs and have a job now, lived with my ex and raised his daughter for 4 years, owned my own business. I could go on and on.

So while your sitting there splitting atoms take one of them and shove it way up for ass and put the other in a pipe and smoke it cunt.

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I never said you were stupid. You said I was stupid. I never belittled your life you and others have belitteld and questioned mine. I have never started a thread just to flame someone. Yet I get blamed for it happening as if the other party has no agency of their own. As if they cannot be responsible for their actions. What the hell?

My lifes story is what it is. I had to compromise livng as a woman for the sake of becoming a scientist and going to a top flight program which just happend to be in a school with discriminatory policies like NIU's. Science was just more importnat to me. ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT"S STUPID JUST DOES NOT KNOW THE PASSION IT TAKES TO DO WHAT I DO.

Let me read this another way. You transtioned "out of highscool and lived ever since as a woman. I transtiioned in highschool, went back to living as a man for four years then retranstioned. So basically as of age 27 you and I had lived about the same ammount of time as women. Therefore it your point was to make some hay out of having lived as a woman for longer you did not. We are in fact even in that department.

@Brenda: pls. don't snuff Mimi's kitties. They're innocent!