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No I wet my bed because i am from a country over 100 degrees and having to adjust to a city that's always cold... Sweetie...
Your way off base i am very emotional person, but i know how to separate business with real life..
You know me as Evon Rose my hustling, money making, dom side..
But you do not know the real me outside of this this forum and this industry you don't even know my real name, my hobbies, what food i like, or movies, or games.. makign assumption based on the person alter ego/work persona is off based...
So your assumptions are offensive, and that's why I choose to place you beneath me. Rather than take time to asses the situation, you come to a conclusion. Therefore, I don't need to sit here and try to understand you either...
This might come as a shock, but I've never seen any of your work or heard of you before this forum...sweetie. See? I can be condescending and rude also, but what does that accomplish? I am trying to understand you, I don't know you on any level and I wouldn't claim to know you on any level because we've never really spoke before.
I was simply asking a question, and to say you wet the bed because of cold weather, who would of guessed? I mean I've gone from 100 degree climates to extremely cold weather and I also wet the bed at the age of 12, but it most certainly wasn't due to cold weather. However that is why I asked, to see if maybe you had shared a similar experience to myself that is all.
Hustling and money making are the same thing right? So you actually believed I thought all that you were, everything that you are, was a money maker and a dominatrix(Which I didn't know by the way.)? I didn't realize you had such a low opinion of me, but don't think I share the same opinion of you. You don't have to try and understand me, that is your choice, but just because you want to throw a tantrum doesn't mean I will stop asking you questions about who you are, and what you're interested in. So, would you mind sharing what hobbies you like to do or what foods you enjoy?
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Originally Posted by
KittyPride
But what about a guy that dates a masculine looking girl...but because the girl has a vagina he is straight?
When another guy falls for a feminine TS he must be bisexual...
Something does not really add up here...
He is confusing gender with sexuality...
He is as ignorant about transsexuality as the next bigoted closed minded person...
Transeuxality is a gender period, if the opposite gender is attracted to her thus making him hetero or possibly bi... simple,,
It's not rocket science.
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mathematics1900
This might come as a shock, but I've never seen any of your work or heard of you before this forum...sweetie. See? I can be condescending and rude also, but what does that accomplish? I am trying to understand you, I don't know you on any level and I wouldn't claim to know you on any level because we've never really spoke before.
I was simply asking a question, and to say you wet the bed because of cold weather, who would of guessed? I mean I've gone from 100 degree climates to extremely cold weather and I also wet the bed at the age of 12, but it most certainly wasn't due to cold weather. However that is why I asked, to see if maybe you had shared a similar experience to myself that is all.
Hustling and money making are the same thing right? So you actually believed I thought all that you were, everything that you are, was a money maker and a dominatrix(Which I didn't know by the way.)? I didn't realize you had such a low opinion of me, but don't think I share the same opinion of you. You don't have to try and understand me, that is your choice, but just because you want to throw a tantrum doesn't mean I will stop asking you questions about who you are, and what you're interested in. So, would you mind sharing what hobbies you like to do or what foods you enjoy?
Well duh you have never heard of me, I don't do porn, and I remain under the radar because of my family being in public eye.
Live in a country your whole life, then move to a cold weather.
http://www.ayushveda.com/health/bedwetting.htm
scroll trough emotional and environmental changes....
Take time to educate yourself before sounding dumb.
Your not trying to understand anyone. Actually by me bringing up the bed wetting problem and then you make me feel like it's some bad thing to further my embarrassment only shows me the true intent of you even conversing with me...
And no i will not share my personal hobbies, you want to find something wrong with my hobbies as well? Not gonna happen, totally lost my trust.
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Grim I found almost every post you made as a way to score brownie points..kudos
Yeah maybe I wanted prince charming in high school, like every female does..especially when I used to watch Sleeping Beauty on repeat..
But you grow out of it typically in college and through dating error and mistakes..social networking with the opposite sex.
HOWEVER - I just think where a lot of issue stem from is girls love to play the victim and "misery loves company"
I'm sorry if I don't have much pity for girls who play that card. I went to high school in a town of 2500 people as a female. I never let my transition handicap me or allow others to define who I was. I honestly think girls who transition older have a harder perspective on social dating and differentiating why men act differently in a "escort" setting than they would outside it. Since a lot of sex workers turn to it to afford the expenses of transition. This typically will be most of their social interaction and relationship with men for most of their transition. Which of course gives them a miscued look at things. This is why I suggest counseling..
I also apologize if I have understanding and empathy for what a man goes through when he dates a transsexual openly. Why do I have that empathy? Because I remember how it was the first day I transitioned. I remember the family arguments and trials I had. I remember when my father three months later called me his "little princess and I always was". I remember when kids in school after a year of teasing my freshman year started to come around. I remember how hard it was grasping for my identity after my mother died. I remember every tid bit and I remember feeling grateful how my life turned out in many ways. Still to this day I'm grateful how easy I have honestly had it. It's why I became a transgender activist in the first place. What the problem is girls forget so easily what it was like to take their first steps.
You usually see the change somewhere around the time a girl gets implants or she becomes "beautiful" or passable. However somehow those trials of sadness through her transition are always in the back of her head, and she in turns acts out. By degrading others the way she may of been degraded. It lifts her up.
She also feels a sense of "I'm so hot" I can degrade this guy and he still wants me. It's a way of power. As you will see many girls in this thread reassure themselves of their beauty and how passable they are by the men they date. So even though many have a bad view of men, they still base their passability on the men they date.
Less on if they can walk down the street, be treated like normal in any public setting. Including going in a girls locker room say in a public gym and having no one think the wiser. All those things that any transsexual woman should be grateful for, they aren't. So many transsexual women who aren't passable would kill to have that blessing, so if I don't have pity for a lot of the girls on this board and girls from the adult world you will just have to forgive me.
I feel many ALLOW how they are treated.
I feel many enable men to treat us with disrespect, instead of educating them, they argue and demean them. Which doesn't bring the good out in anyone.
It saddens me when I see friend after friend who finds a great guy, but oh no something in his past puts him on the chopping block. Whether it be he slept with another trans or dated one or slept around figuring out what they want.
Here's a news flash..when people are trying to figure out their sexuality..they SLEEP AROUND A LOT. Especially when it goes from being straight to something alternative. Because SEX plays such a vital role on how one identifies themselves.
There are cases when someone feels they are gay, but do not enjoy sex with men. They surprisingly enjoy sex with women. But in this case the male still feels he is a gay man.
I just think being a trans woman and being around trans women MANY are their own worst enemy not only in life partner relationships but friendships in general.
It's where a lot of the cattiness, backstabbing, hating on one another' looks all stem from, and it's why when a girl who is farther down the line in her transition will look down on another transsexual who isn't. Because they need that sense of validation and power, to feed their own hole and ego..
Do you understand what I am saying now Grim?
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Originally Posted by
KellyShore
Grim I found almost every post you made as a way to score brownie points..kudos
Yeah maybe I wanted prince charming in high school, like every female does..especially when I used to watch Sleeping Beauty on repeat..
But you grow out of it typically in college and through dating error and mistakes..social networking with the opposite sex.
HOWEVER - I just think where a lot of issue stem from is girls love to play the victim and "misery loves company"
I'm sorry if I don't have much pity for girls who play that card. I went to high school in a town of 2500 people as a female. I never let my transition handicap me or allow others to define who I was. I honestly think girls who transition older have a harder perspective on social dating and differentiating why men act differently in a "escort" setting than they would outside it. Since a lot of sex workers turn to it to afford the expenses of transition. This typically will be most of their social interaction and relationship with men for most of their transition. Which of course gives them a miscued look at things. This is why I suggest counseling..
I also apologize if I have understanding and empathy for what a man goes through when he dates a transsexual openly. Why do I have that empathy? Because I remember how it was the first day I transitioned. I remember the family arguments and trials I had. I remember when my father three months later called me his "little princess and I always was". I remember when kids in school after a year of teasing my freshman year started to come around. I remember how hard it was grasping for my identity after my mother died. I remember every tid bit and I remember feeling grateful how my life turned out in many ways. Still to this day I'm grateful how easy I have honestly had it. It's why I became a transgender activist in the first place. What the problem is girls forget so easily what it was like to take their first steps.
You usually see the change somewhere around the time a girl gets implants or she becomes "beautiful" or passable. However somehow those trials of sadness through her transition are always in the back of her head, and she in turns acts out. By degrading others the way she may of been degraded. It lifts her up.
She also feels a sense of "I'm so hot" I can degrade this guy and he still wants me. It's a way of power. As you will see many girls in this thread reassure themselves of their beauty and how passable they are by the men they date. So even though many have a bad view of men, they still base their passability on the men they date.
Less on if they can walk down the street, be treated like normal in any public setting. Including going in a girls locker room say in a public gym and having no one think the wiser. All those things that any transsexual woman should be grateful for, they aren't. So many transsexual women who aren't passable would kill to have that blessing, so if I don't have pity for a lot of the girls on this board and girls from the adult world you will just have to forgive me.
I feel many ALLOW how they are treated.
I feel many enable men to treat us with disrespect, instead of educating them, they argue and demean them. Which doesn't bring the good out in anyone.
It saddens me when I see friend after friend who finds a great guy, but oh no something in his past puts him on the chopping block. Whether it be he slept with another trans or dated one or slept around figuring out what they want.
Here's a news flash..when people are trying to figure out their sexuality..they SLEEP AROUND A LOT. Especially when it goes from being straight to something alternative. Because SEX plays such a vital role on how one identifies themselves.
There are cases when someone feels they are gay, but do not enjoy sex with men. They surprisingly enjoy sex with women. But in this case the male still feels he is a gay man.
I just think being a trans woman and being around trans women MANY are their own worst enemy not only in life partner relationships but friendships in general.
It's where a lot of the cattiness, backstabbing, hating on one another' looks all stem from, and it's why when a girl who is farther down the line in her transition will look down on another transsexual who isn't. Because they need that sense of validation and power, to feed their own hole and ego..
Do you understand what I am saying now Grim?
Kelly, I understand "misery loves company", but that doesn't mean when chasers are "pissing on my back" you can tell me that it's "raining". It's not that simple. I often date VERY REGULAR guys; guys who are mechanics, work as chef's, laborers, etc. I like down to earth guys. Not only are they often in better shape and gorgeous, but THOSE guys actually deserve a chance to be educated. Not the guy looking for any free dick from any gender in any city he finds himself in. Those guys are dogs. They're dogs to GGs, they're dogs to twink boys, and they're dogs to us. Stop protecting them as a blanket policy. It's not as black and white as you're making it sound and you know it. Sure. There are jaded women and jaded transwomen. But are you going to honestly pitch this speech to the guys on HungAngels? lol Where there's a 50/50 chance you're talking to a bunch of dogs and closet cases? lol I know you're not that gullible, Kelly. lol
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Originally Posted by
Nicole Dupre
Kelly, I understand "misery loves company", but that doesn't mean when chasers are "pissing on my back" you can tell me that it's "raining". It's not that simple. I often date VERY REGULAR guys; guys who are mechanics, work as chef's, laborers, etc. I like down to earth guys. Not only are they often in better shape and gorgeous, but THOSE guys actually deserve a chance to be educated. Not the guy looking for any free dick from any gender in any city he finds himself in. Those guys are dogs. They're dogs to GGs, they're dogs to twink boys, and they're dogs to us. Stop protecting them as a blanket policy. It's not as black and white as you're making it sound and you know it. Sure. There are jaded women and jaded transwomen. But are you going to honestly pitch this speech to the guys on HungAngels? lol Where there's a 50/50 chance you're talking to a bunch of dogs and closet cases? lol I know you're not that gullible, Kelly. lol
She might be... I mean she did state she was kinda closed of and lived in a picket white fence.... Kinda...
Maybe that's why we are not agreeing because i see the real world, and she's been sheltered... Not a bad thing.
I mean she states something about transitioning like it's easy for anyone... her truth is not my truth...
Physically I had no issue changing... I didn't need to get face surgery to look more feminine, or to get body surgery to achieve that I have achieved full feminization naturally... So i had it easy, however family life was difficult that changed many aspect of my life as well... So we have different struggles but very similar, so you can't say just because your family life was hard, doesn't mean you become jaded or cold just by avoiding chasers... that's quite ignorant.
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EvonRose
I feel like I'm so superior with a bunch of little brains...
I can't argue with people who think gender dysphoria as a sexuality...
Sexuality is the attraction of the same or opposite gender or the non attraction.
Transexuality is a gender as is male or female..
Within this gender, there is an umbrella of sexuality...
You wiki links shows nothing about transsexuality, because we mtf are with the female group.
I am a transexual mtf making me hetero/curious female therefore, a man attracted to me would be heterosexual or bisexual man or bisexual or lesbian female...
How can you guys not know this? I am so appalled by the stupidity of many people here. Yet they argue about something that is not even related..
i am not surprised. Assumption as fact is the root of most prejudice in the world. Intellectual curiousity is a trait most don't aspire to because it means challanging ones own beliefs and sometimes changing them. It isn't stupidity imo it's a disinterest in learning and willed ignorance. Some people prefer the safety of ignorance over the potential cognitive dissonance that comes with learning their views are wrong.
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Originally Posted by
Nicole Dupre
Kelly, I understand "misery loves company", but that doesn't mean when chasers are "pissing on my back" you can tell me that it's "raining". It's not that simple. I often date VERY REGULAR guys; guys who are mechanics, work as chef's, laborers, etc. I like down to earth guys. Not only are they often in better shape and gorgeous, but THOSE guys actually deserve a chance to be educated. Not the guy looking for any free dick from any gender in any city he finds himself in. Those guys are dogs. They're dogs to GGs, they're dogs to twink boys, and they're dogs to us. Stop protecting them as a blanket policy. It's not as black and white as you're making it sound and you know it. Sure. There are jaded women and jaded transwomen. But are you going to honestly pitch this speech to the guys on HungAngels? lol Where there's a 50/50 chance you're talking to a bunch of dogs and closet cases? lol I know you're not that gullible, Kelly. lol
I actually wasn't speaking of you Nicole.
I feel from talking to you off here you have a strong sense of self and use the board as playground like I admitted to doing.
And I am by no means protecting every man on here..there are quit a few I wont name..that deserve that term Chaser and deserve a dunce cap for how some how of them act.
But I feel a majority aren't that bad as they are made out to be.
And some when they are disrespected by a trans-girl react and then that causes other girls to react and then the captain save-a-hos react for brownie points...
Then those men in turn act like assholes for the rest of their time here, because they are on the defense..
And this goes for real life too..you know some girls just have a smart ass mouth..which get them into trouble and put men off..
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allurstouse
i am not surprised. Assumption as fact is the root of most prejudice in the world. Intellectual curiousity is a trait most don't aspire to because it means challanging ones own beliefs and sometimes changing them. It isn't stupidity imo it's a disinterest in learning and willed ignorance. Some people prefer the safety of ignorance over the potential cognitive dissonance that comes with learning their views are wrong.
What I stated is not a view it's scientific...
It's better to have some sort of foothold than to make up your own unprofessional labels, this is why any people here are confused...
There is nothing wrong with sexuality..
But to say gender is a sexuality is not a fact... And and it is a scientific fact. Proven... No matter how much some like to change that, what comes up comes down... It's the truth deal with it.
There is no prejudice in my view, I embrace all sexual preference, it is the people themselves who don't embrace their sexuality and they try to make up their own identity... That confuses people.
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Originally Posted by
KellyShore
Grim I found almost every post you made as a way to score brownie points..kudos
Yeah maybe I wanted prince charming in high school, like every female does..especially when I used to watch Sleeping Beauty on repeat..
But you grow out of it typically in college and through dating error and mistakes..social networking with the opposite sex.
HOWEVER - I just think where a lot of issue stem from is girls love to play the victim and "misery loves company"
I'm sorry if I don't have much pity for girls who play that card. I went to high school in a town of 2500 people as a female. I never let my transition handicap me or allow others to define who I was. I honestly think girls who transition older have a harder perspective on social dating and differentiating why men act differently in a "escort" setting than they would outside it. Since a lot of sex workers turn to it to afford the expenses of transition. This typically will be most of their social interaction and relationship with men for most of their transition. Which of course gives them a miscued look at things. This is why I suggest counseling..
I also apologize if I have understanding and empathy for what a man goes through when he dates a transsexual openly. Why do I have that empathy? Because I remember how it was the first day I transitioned. I remember the family arguments and trials I had. I remember when my father three months later called me his "little princess and I always was". I remember when kids in school after a year of teasing my freshman year started to come around. I remember how hard it was grasping for my identity after my mother died. I remember every tid bit and I remember feeling grateful how my life turned out in many ways. Still to this day I'm grateful how easy I have honestly had it. It's why I became a transgender activist in the first place. What the problem is girls forget so easily what it was like to take their first steps.
You usually see the change somewhere around the time a girl gets implants or she becomes "beautiful" or passable. However somehow those trials of sadness through her transition are always in the back of her head, and she in turns acts out. By degrading others the way she may of been degraded. It lifts her up.
She also feels a sense of "I'm so hot" I can degrade this guy and he still wants me. It's a way of power. As you will see many girls in this thread reassure themselves of their beauty and how passable they are by the men they date. So even though many have a bad view of men, they still base their passability on the men they date.
Less on if they can walk down the street, be treated like normal in any public setting. Including going in a girls locker room say in a public gym and having no one think the wiser. All those things that any transsexual woman should be grateful for, they aren't. So many transsexual women who aren't passable would kill to have that blessing, so if I don't have pity for a lot of the girls on this board and girls from the adult world you will just have to forgive me.
I feel many ALLOW how they are treated.
I feel many enable men to treat us with disrespect, instead of educating them, they argue and demean them. Which doesn't bring the good out in anyone.
It saddens me when I see friend after friend who finds a great guy, but oh no something in his past puts him on the chopping block. Whether it be he slept with another trans or dated one or slept around figuring out what they want.
Here's a news flash..when people are trying to figure out their sexuality..they SLEEP AROUND A LOT. Especially when it goes from being straight to something alternative. Because SEX plays such a vital role on how one identifies themselves.
There are cases when someone feels they are gay, but do not enjoy sex with men. They surprisingly enjoy sex with women. But in this case the male still feels he is a gay man.
I just think being a trans woman and being around trans women MANY are their own worst enemy not only in life partner relationships but friendships in general.
It's where a lot of the cattiness, backstabbing, hating on one another' looks all stem from, and it's why when a girl who is farther down the line in her transition will look down on another transsexual who isn't. Because they need that sense of validation and power, to feed their own hole and ego..
Do you understand what I am saying now Grim?
Gee Kelly that are some awefull generalisations you are making...
Anyway....i dont recognise myself in it at all....except for maybe that you are right my pasts haunts me...but in a good way...or maybe bad who can tell...anyway i am not lusting for power over men...or feeding my ego etc...
I guess i lost a lot of that ego long ago...
I am not proud of my looks...i know looks are superficial...
When i lived as a boy i was the same person on the inside...so if anyone gives me a compliment...it falls back into the history...its not "received" i cant catch compliments easely coZ always in the back of my head are the menories of how i was treated before...
I find no pleasure in insulting men....i just want the one im with to be respectfull towards my femininity....
Also im very sensitive...so all that ego talk and fighting is really not for me...but i know how to defend myself.
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Originally Posted by
EvonRose
What I stated is not a view it's scientific...
It's better to have some sort of foothold than to make up your own unprofessional labels, this is why any people here are confused...
There is nothing wrong with sexuality..
But to say gender is a sexuality is not a fact... And and it is a scientific fact. Proven... No matter how much some like to change that, what comes up comes down... It's the truth deal with it.
actually I was agreeing with you lol. I am familar with the difference between sexuality and gender because i was curious enough to learn and challenge my assumptions.
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KittyPride
Gee Kelly that are some awefull generalisations you are making...
Anyway....i dont recognise myself in it at all....except for maybe that you are right my pasts haunts me...but in a good way...or maybe bad who can tell...anyway i am not lusting for power over men...or feeding my ego etc...
I guess i lost a lot of that ego long ago...
I am not proud of my looks...i know looks are superficial...
When i lived as a boy i was the same person on the inside...so if anyone gives me a compliment...it falls back into the history...its not "received" i cant catch compliments easely coZ always in the back of my head are the menories of how i was treated before...
I find no pleasure in insulting men....i just want the one im with to be respectfull towards my femininity....
Also im very sensitive...so all that ego talk and fighting is really not for me...but i know how to defend myself.
It would only generalizing if I said ALL or every last one of us..
I am saying it's common for transsexuals in the adult world to feel or act this way..
Many do...many are right now..many will continue acting this way...
And girls that keep denying this..drive me nuts..
"Oh I don't do that.."
Well no one said you did that, but many do..
and for you to act like it doesn't go on..
is like acting like the Holocaust never happened...
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allurstouse
actually I was agreeing with you lol. I am familar with the difference between sexuality and gender because i was curious enough to learn and challenge my assumptions.
Oh yeah i know, i was backhanding the guys we are talking about.. hehe
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KellyShore
It would only generalizing if I said ALL or every last one of us..
I am saying it's common for transsexuals in the adult world to feel or act this way..
Many do...many are right now..many will continue acting this way...
And girls that keep denying this..drive me nuts..
"Oh I don't do that.."
Well no one said you did that, but many do..
and for you to act like it doesn't go on..
is like acting like the Holocaust never happened...
You call that a holocaust?
Well I think a lot of Tgirls deserve chasers because of their masculine behavior... and a lot of chasers deserve those Tgirls coz they are after transwoman that are half men anyway...
I know a lot of transwoman dont live in reality...
Ive talked to some that claimed they slept with men who did not notice at all they were TS... while I could obviously see it... let alone that men would not sense it...
Also a lot of them are in some sorth of denial that they are TS.
I know a girl that wanted to show her new date to a transgirlfriend of hers... and introduce him as "finally found a guy that isnt a chaser or cockhound" Turned out that he dated with her pre op girlfriend before and he especially like the cock lol
But my girlfriend did not tell her... not to dissapoint her... or betray the guy.
I am totally at ease with guys that have been with TS before... even TV's no problem!!! Its actually a plus cause you know they wont go mental after sex with strange feelings of guilt or go into a sexual identity crisis.
To be honest I really dont like men that do that. lol
I have been able to avoid it... but I think its horrible. happened to a lot of Tgirlfriends of mine. I kept my ears open and listened very carefully to them and tried to make sure it never happened to me.
I was warned for the cockhounds long before I ever dated fortunately lol.
I remember at first being so dissapointed to hear it and even kind of upset. But I had to take this for real.
Good thing that are guys out there that match with me too.
Also you are right about dating heterosexual men. Its not that easy. Especially for him... cause he has to give up his heterosexual identity to the outside world. It actually makes ME feel very bad for those guys.
Its unfair for them also.
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I am twice as old as some of you and really respect your grasp on your identitys at your age. The conversation in the thread has been pretty introspective and loaded with insight. Most 20 or 25 yr olds don't have a clear sense of themselves as adults. I don't mean gender or even sexuality. I mean your view of your core selves as adults. Most 20 somethings lack that. Maybe it's the introspection your genetic mismatch with gender must of led to? Anyway just a compliment from the fairly ignorant. I thought it worth noting it's a trait that repeats itself over and over in the thread you all share that most 20 somethings don't have and it makes their lives a bit harder.
I actually wish I lived in a bigger city to just meet and get to know some of you. Your life histories, points of view, experiences are mostly not a shared experience for me and without seeming creepy I have learned a lot since I came here. Anyone whose daily life consists of speaking truth to power (society) and standing for that truth http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1592 is imo is worth listening to and getting to know other than sexually
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Well duh you have never heard of me, I don't do porn, and I remain under the radar because of my family being in public eye.
Live in a country your whole life, then move to a cold weather.
http://www.ayushveda.com/health/bedwetting.htm
scroll trough emotional and environmental changes....
Take time to educate yourself before sounding dumb.
Your not trying to understand anyone. Actually by me bringing up the bed wetting problem and then you make me feel like it's some bad thing to further my embarrassment only shows me the true intent of you even conversing with me...
And no i will not share my personal hobbies, you want to find something wrong with my hobbies as well? Not gonna happen, totally lost my trust.
Embarrass you, how on earth am I going to embarrass a secure and confident woman like yourself over the internet? I have lived in a hot country my whole life and moved to a cold climate and the bed wetting didn't happen to me, am I dumb because I was uninformed? That is a pretty bold statement coming from someone with constant grammatical errors in every post. You are even too insecure to share your hobbies for fear that I might criticize them? It is your choice whether or not you want to trust people, and it is obvious you have some very deep trust issues. I am trying to understand and even if you refuse to answers questions, I'll simply keep reading your posts until I have gathered enough information so that I can ask even more informed questions. This is going to make you uncomfortable, but that is the only way to grow.
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Grim I found almost every post you made as a way to score brownie points..kudos
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Do you understand what I am saying now Grim?
Blew my mind.
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Kelly, I understand "misery loves company", but that doesn't mean when chasers are "pissing on my back" you can tell me that it's "raining". It's not that simple. I often date VERY REGULAR guys; guys who are mechanics, work as chef's, laborers, etc. I like down to earth guys. Not only are they often in better shape and gorgeous, but THOSE guys actually deserve a chance to be educated. Not the guy looking for any free dick from any gender in any city he finds himself in. Those guys are dogs. They're dogs to GGs, they're dogs to twink boys, and they're dogs to us. Stop protecting them as a blanket policy. It's not as black and white as you're making it sound and you know it. Sure. There are jaded women and jaded transwomen. But are you going to honestly pitch this speech to the guys on HungAngels? lol Where there's a 50/50 chance you're talking to a bunch of dogs and closet cases? lol I know you're not that gullible, Kelly. lol
Now you have beef with dogs and closet cases? Lol, chasers are pissing on your back? Then you drop them, what is the big deal? Why do you get into such a tear about these men, they are individuals, drop them as such. If the guy isn't respecting you and treating you how you want to be treated, then stop talking to him. It is that simple!
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mathematics1900
Embarrass you, how on earth am I going to embarrass a secure and confident woman like yourself over the internet? I have lived in a hot country my whole life and moved to a cold climate and the bed wetting didn't happen to me, am I dumb because I was uninformed? That is a pretty bold statement coming from someone with constant grammatical errors in every post. You are even too insecure to share your hobbies for fear that I might criticize them? It is your choice whether or not you want to trust people, and it is obvious you have some very deep trust issues. I am trying to understand and even if you refuse to answers questions, I'll simply keep reading your posts until I have gathered enough information so that I can ask even more informed questions. This is going to make you uncomfortable, but that is the only way to grow.
Your dumb for speaking against my bed wetting problem as a child without proper knowledge... Obviously I gave you an article about it it's actually not as uncommon you made it seem...
It's a porn forum I don't proof read what I type because i rather type and get it down with, you get my point so what's the issue? Now if we were in school that I happen to be 3.97 GPA... I would proof read it for fear of grading or of I was typing up something important for...
If your only dig at me is the grammatical error, you obviously ran out of things to say... Do better.
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EvonRose
Your dumb for speaking against my bed wetting problem as a child without proper knowledge... Obviously I gave you an article about it it's actually not as uncommon you made it seem...
It's a porn forum I don't proof read what I type because i rather type and get it down with, you get my point so what's the issue? Now if we were in school that I happen to be 3.97 GPA... I would proof read it for fear of grading or of I was typing up something important for...
If your only dig at me is the grammatical error, you obviously ran out of things to say... Do better.
When the attack is on grammar and punctuation you really don't need to respond. it means you won the argument and someone is just tossing red herrings and trying to create straw men to escape admitting it
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Your dumb for speaking against my bed wetting problem as a child without proper knowledge... Obviously I gave you an article about it it's actually not as uncommon you made it seem...
It's a porn forum I don't proof read what I type because i rather type and get it down with, you get my point so what's the issue? Now if we were in school that I happen to be 3.97 GPA... I would proof read it for fear of grading or of I was typing up something important for...
If your only dig at me is the grammatical error, you obviously ran out of things to say... Do better.
A child without proper knowledge? Do you think the majority of the population spends time reading on the extensive amounts of possibilities that would cause bed wetting? You are getting more and more delusional as this progresses. Yes, it is pretty uncommon otherwise you wouldn't of had to inform me about it. Ahhh, a porn forum, where sounding intelligent doesn't matter if you've got tits? I see, I just misunderstood what you're about and now I'm getting a better picture, no worries, we'll get there together Evon.
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When the attack is on grammar and punctuation you really don't need to respond. it means you won the argument and someone is just tossing red herrings and trying to create straw men to escape admitting it
Lol, right...it isn't as if someone sounds ridiculous calling me stupid when their literacy is worse than my 10 year old niece.
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mathematics1900
A child without proper knowledge? Do you think the majority of the population spends time reading on the extensive amounts of possibilities that would cause bed wetting? You are getting more and more delusional as this progresses. Yes, it is pretty uncommon otherwise you wouldn't of had to inform me about it. Ahhh, a porn forum, where sounding intelligent doesn't matter if you've got tits? I see, I just misunderstood what you're about and now I'm getting a better picture, no worries, we'll get there together Evon.
Lol, right...it isn't as if someone sounds ridiculous calling me stupid when their literacy is worse than my 10 year old niece.
You really don't think a child who had suffered a civil war resulting in a bullet flying trough her bed and almost getting kidnapped, then moving to the US in an uncommon scary environment, not to mention the 50 degree drop in temperature that she's use to living had nothing to do with her wetting her bed at night?
I am a woman of facts at leas I'm smart enough to read up on something than someone who blabs about bullshit...
Well sorry english isn't everyone's 1st language ass!
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You really don't think a child who had suffered a cicil war resulting in a bullet flying trough her bed then moving to the us in an uncommon scary environment, not to mention the 50 degree drop in temperature that she's use to living had nothing to do with her wetting her bed at night?
I am a woman of facts at leas I'm smart enough to read up on something than someone who blabs about bullshit...
Well sorry english isn't everyone's 1st language ass!
English isn't my first language either, but I am guessing my first language made it easier for me to transition over to English as opposed to what you're first language was...
Thank you!!! Evon, did you see what just happened there? You shared something personal with me, you told me that you were in a civil war and that you were scared and anxious about your new environment. Now it is completely possible that the weather had a lot to do with the bed wetting, but I was just wondering if there was anything there, and there was! I am so happy you shared with me, that is all I wanted. :-)
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SammiValentine
hey why dont you say what you really think, dont be shy!!! ;)
Just a theory and only pertains to the girls that get all bitchy about guys who enjoy something extra.
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Nicole Dupre
And theories like that are what make you the retarded nobody that you are.
says the tranny with the Pep-BOy tattoo.
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I tend to agree with Evon on the writing bit...
My forum writing is a lot different than my article/blog writings or when I am writing something important...
I tend to slack off a lot..and use a lot of these .................
And space things
And do other things so it's faster to type and read....
Oh and I forgot this - I do that a lot lol
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Another view
Huge academic peer reservations, but I thought it would be fun to throw into the mix!
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Don't worry Evon
I wet my pants too.
all the cool kids wet their pants
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Are we teasing Evon again???
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KittyPride
But what about a guy that dates a masculine looking girl...but because the girl has a vagina he is straight?
When another guy falls for a feminine TS he must be bisexual...
it is not about looks it is about context
this is really male psychology 101 and youd know this if you had ever heard men talk about transsexuals with other men
a truely exclusively heterosexual male will never be into someone who has been a man may still have male genitals and will forever be genetically male no matter how beautiful and feminine she might look
the thought that he is effectively having sex with a man will forever be a turn off
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KellyShore
Oh and I forgot this - I do that a lot lol
well at least youve beaten the habit of using "lol" for punctuation ... wait no spoke too soon
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People are mean to me because they're just jealous...
I got a bigger cock than most of you so shut up!
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KittyPride
You call that a holocaust?
Well I think a lot of Tgirls deserve chasers because of their masculine behavior... and a lot of chasers deserve those Tgirls coz they are after transwoman that are half men anyway...
I know a lot of transwoman dont live in reality...
Ive talked to some that claimed they slept with men who did not notice at all they were TS... while I could obviously see it... let alone that men would not sense it...
Also a lot of them are in some sorth of denial that they are TS.
I know a girl that wanted to show her new date to a transgirlfriend of hers... and introduce him as "finally found a guy that isnt a chaser or cockhound" Turned out that he dated with her pre op girlfriend before and he especially like the cock lol
But my girlfriend did not tell her... not to dissapoint her... or betray the guy.
I am totally at ease with guys that have been with TS before... even TV's no problem!!! Its actually a plus cause you know they wont go mental after sex with strange feelings of guilt or go into a sexual identity crisis.
To be honest I really dont like men that do that. lol
I have been able to avoid it... but I think its horrible. happened to a lot of Tgirlfriends of mine. I kept my ears open and listened very carefully to them and tried to make sure it never happened to me.
I was warned for the cockhounds long before I ever dated fortunately lol.
I remember at first being so dissapointed to hear it and even kind of upset. But I had to take this for real.
Good thing that are guys out there that match with me too.
Also you are right about dating heterosexual men. Its not that easy. Especially for him... cause he has to give up his heterosexual identity to the outside world. It actually makes ME feel very bad for those guys.
Its unfair for them also.
Kitty, great post! I've never understood the TW with the "Prince Charming" mentality, thinking their going to meet a man who has no experience with TW and will bet totally ok with it. The questions of his own sexuality are surely going to come out. The shame, anger and guilt will cause all kinds of crazy behavior.
As far as trans-women who live in denial, those who are ashamed or get angry because you know they are trans and get angry about it - I have zero tolerance with them. If a TW isn't ok with herself; how the hell is she going to be ok with me being into her. SMH
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EvonRose
People are mean to me because they're just jealous...
it's scary to think this was the only reason you could think of. you don't even think there is a chance that maybe they don't agree with you, or perhaps you could be wrong about something?
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bluesoul
it's scary to think this was the only reason you could think of. you don't even think there is a chance that maybe they don't agree with you, or perhaps you could be wrong about something?
Selective quoting?
I'm sure your more mature than than little pion...
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People are mean to me because they're just jealous...
I got a bigger cock than most of you so shut up!
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Aren't you of Asian decent? By the numbers the chance of you having a bigger cock than most isn't likely.
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mathematics1900
Aren't you of Asian decent? By the numbers the chance of you having a bigger cock than most isn't likely.
Well guess what, people have vouched for me... I have reviews
Racist... lol.. Im a quarter pacific islander, Filipinos are not necessarily asians...
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Amy Irving got a 100 million dollar divorce settlement from Steven Spielberg for NOT getting along!!! Now that's TALENT!!
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buttslinger
Amy Irving got a 100 million dollar divorce settlement from Steven Spielberg for NOT getting along!!! Now that's TALENT!!
And she deserves it, you don't know if Steven Spielberg was an ass to her...
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EvonRose
Selective quoting?
I'm sure your more mature than than little pion...
i didn't quote the other part of your sentence for 2 reasons:
1). it didn't support your earlier statement and
2). seemed like a separate thought
also i don't see how my treatment of your entire quote would change things to support your current claim.
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bluesoul
i didn't quote the other part of your sentence for 2 reasons:
1). it didn't support your earlier statement and
2). seemed like a separate thought
also i don't see how my treatment of your entire quote would change things to support your current claim.
it was a sarcastic joke asshole!
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Well guess what, people have vouched for me... I have reviews
Racist... lol.. Im a quarter pacific islander, Filipinos are not necessarily asians...
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Interesting, you're Filipino! You are right since the Philippines were a colony of Spain. One of my favorite professors was from the Philippines and the great thing about it was that I already knew Spanish and we could speak to each other, it was pretty interesting. Also my sister is pretty obsessed with Pacific Island men, like The Rock, lol.
