Boston Marathon

its a serious question douche-hole....grow up

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Originally Posted by dderek123

Fair enough.
I really don't get that reference though.

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In the USA, trying to sell someone the Brooklyn Bridge is a synonym for trying to put one over on someone who's unusually naïve or gullible, from the notion of a fast-talking New Yorker selling it to some unwary tourist from somewhere unsophisticated and rural.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

Yep - kudos to the police operation that finally took this oung man alive. So as biboysays we might get some insight into his motivation. Good to let the law take its due course.

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I'm especially keen to see this young man tried as a common criminal in the U.S. court system rather than as an enemy combatant by a military tribunal. I'm not clear on whether he's a citizen or a permanent resident but either way, as someone who's in the country lawfully, constitutional protections regarding due process accrue to him. Treat him as anyone else whose criminal actions resulted in four deaths and the injury and maiming of 180+ people. To do anything else is to lend credibility to his political cause.

Honestly, it's starting to look like his older brother was the one who had a hate-on for the U.S., he complained about how he couldn't get along here and didn't have any American friends, and how American people "lacked morals" (which, BTW, is a square in "Authoritarian Government Bingo"). He probably pulled his younger brother in for the ride, who knows why, it looks like the younger brother looked up to the older one a great deal.

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Originally Posted by BiBoyinBeantown

I'm especially keen to see this young man tried as a common criminal in the U.S. court system rather than as an enemy combatant by a military tribunal. I'm not clear on whether he's a citizen or a permanent resident but either way, as someone who's in the country lawfully, constitutional protections regarding due process accrue to him. Treat him as anyone else whose criminal actions resulted in four deaths and the injury and maiming of 180+ people. To do anything else is to lend credibility to his political cause.

Honestly, it's starting to look like his older brother was the one who had a hate-on for the U.S., he complained about how he couldn't get along here and didn't have any American friends, and how American people "lacked morals" (which, BTW, is a square in "Authoritarian Government Bingo"). He probably pulled his younger brother in for the ride, who knows why, it looks like the younger brother looked up to the older one a great deal.

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What rights should Dzhokhar Tsarnaev get and why does it matter?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...mirnada-rights

interesting...

http://gma.yahoo.com/boston-bomb-sus...opstories.html

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...BkI/story.html

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Originally Posted by BiBoyinBeantown

I'm especially keen to see this young man tried as a common criminal in the U.S. court system rather than as an enemy combatant by a military tribunal. I'm not clear on whether he's a citizen or a permanent resident but either way, as someone who's in the country lawfully, constitutional protections regarding due process accrue to him. Treat him as anyone else whose criminal actions resulted in four deaths and the injury and maiming of 180+ people. To do anything else is to lend credibility to his political cause.

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Dzhokar Tsarnaev, the survivor, became an American citizen on 9/11/2012.

As posters to this thread are probably aware, Dzhokar has not yet been mirandized. The law allows that under circumstances where public safety is an immediately issue a suspect may be questioned before being informed of his or her rights as a citizen. Were Dzhokar to be tried as a common criminal (which in my current thinking is preferable) not mirandizing him might render the information thereby obtained unacceptable to an ordinary criminal court. Is this a step toward trying Dzhokar as a terrorist in a military court? Any lawyers here?

The younger brother ran over and dragged the older one to his death. Maybe the injuries in that disputed picture occurred then.

I'm guessing that they will try to question him without the Miranda Rights for the purpose of gathering any intelligence info he may possess (if he remains conscious long enough to even be able to do that). As far as using his statements to convict him in a court of law - the issue would probably be moot anyway - I'm sure they have enough evidence against him without him saying a word.