McCain chose a woman as VP

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Originally Posted by Stoked

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Originally Posted by Felicia Katt

She disputes that man made activity has an impact on global warming. She favors increased drilling offshore and in the ANWR. She opposed putting polar bears on the endangered species list.

She is opposed to virtually all abortions including those for victims of rape or incest or to preserve the health of the mother.


With his choice for VP, McCain is trying to again be a Maverick, but this was a Pinto move and it will blow up in his face.

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I'll take on these three

Man made activity has not definitively been proven to cause global warming. And in fact, the global temperature has been decreasing
since 1998.

I am for oil independence too and drilling offshore and in ANWAR. Or would you rather continue to buy oil from nations that seek to destroy us? This does mean I am not in favor of other "greener" sourcs of energy... but until then, and that isn't happening anytime soon, the world depends on oil, so do we.

OPPOSED to all abortion, as opposed to those who BELIEVE IN all abortion, the outright killing of humans, yet worry about the polar bears making the endangered list? Whoa!

It was a great move... look how upset it has made Dems and how quickly the base has felt the necessity and moved to tear her down... even you Felicia.

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forget it, man. people on here just don't want to listen to reason...

http://thepage.time.com/2008/09/01/m...n-is-pregnant/

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17-year-old daughter of Republican veep nominee is five months pregnant and plans to marry the father of her unborn child.

Palin: “Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family.” Read full campaign statement: http://thepage.time.com/mccain-state...-bristol-palin

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Well that was unexpected.

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Originally Posted by braveman

Yoda,

You must understand something. Stoked can not make a point without resorting to insults. He's quick with them too.

I've seen plenty of your posts and you, like most of us on HA, can disagree with others and not resort to name-calling.

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Stoked

Bro... you have now put words in my mouth so you could raise a point.. I did not say, or write, " that this should not be a big public issue."

I was done responding because I thought you were an idiot, now you have proved it.

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So if I am an idiot, what are you? I figured that it would come down to name calling. But you don't have to answer what you are, because I know. You're a racist.

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Originally Posted by Stoked

... You would rather have everyone take government handouts than kicking their sorry ass out of the food stamps line and making something of their life? ...

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Yeah, I've been on your ass, since you came on posting those conservative, or what you call yourself, code words. Your done responding because you cannot answers the numerous challenges I have made regarding your philosophies.

But I will apologize if I misinterpeted some of your words. Your statements like the one above have me seeing red. But though I have seen red, I can still see your true colors.

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Beautiful Braveman... you praise yodajazz for not resorting to name calling, when in that exact post he called me a racist... you bonerhead!

At a press availability in Monroe, Mich., Barack Obama said: "Back off these kinds of stories."

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"I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor and/or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."

On charges that his campaign has stoked the story via liberal blogs:

"I am offended by that statement. There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us," he said. "Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired."

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13050.html

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Originally Posted by Stoked

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Stoked

Bro... you have now put words in my mouth so you could raise a point.. I did not say, or write, " that this should not be a big public issue."

I was done responding because I thought you were an idiot, now you have proved it.

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So if I am an idiot, what are you? I figured that it would come down to name calling. But you don't have to answer what you are, because I know. You're a racist.

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Originally Posted by Stoked

... You would rather have everyone take government handouts than kicking their sorry ass out of the food stamps line and making something of their life? ...

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Yeah, I've been on your ass, since you came on posting those conservative, or what you call yourself, code words. Your done responding because you cannot answers the numerous challenges I have made regarding your philosophies.

But I will apologize if I misinterpeted some of your words. Your statements like the one above have me seeing red. But though I have seen red, I can still see your true colors.

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WTF?

I can prove you are an idiot if i choose, by dissecting your "numerous challenges". They are so sophomoric and wrong, to do so would be a waste of my time. Therefore, describing you as an idiot is not name calling, its a descriptive, and, I might add, applicable word.

What have I written that proves I am a racist?

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Throughout history, battles, wars, empires, and even chess matches have been lost by underestimating the qualities of the opposition. Whether I am an idiot or not, I am learning from you. So I am thankful for you, for giving of yourself.

As far as you being a racist; certain code words have been in use since at least the sixties. Your comment about people receiving food stamps being sorry assed is very typical of racists. All kind of people recieve food stamps but the public perception is synonymous with people of color. Nazis and white supremacists are very open about their beliefs. But it is the hidden ones, who use other excuses, are in fact the most harmful.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Who?

then again ...

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Thats the part that scares me too :wink:

The pregnant, unmarried daughter of a 'moral values' candidate story may sell more newspapers, but the 'troopergate' investigation into Palin's possible misuse of authority is more interesting to political junkies like me. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26499411/

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Originally Posted by ottorocket

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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me

Let me guess, Janet? Like Otto, you're an objective "Independent"?


Yeah, sure you are.

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You like to spoon feed everyone here your own thoughts about our politics...Don't try and define others to win brownie points in the sophomoric debate here...you haven't a fucking clue what mine are. But let me tell everyone what they are so you don't FURTHER muddle up anyone else's opinion about me...


I voted Clinton/Gore in 92' and 96'
Voted Dubya in 01'
Went Independent in 04' and didnt vote ...

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"Sophomoric"? "Brownie points" ? When I suspected (posts immersed in RW talking points) where you were positioned on the political spectrum, I asked you (twice I believe) who you voted for in the last two presidential elections since you were claiming to be an Independent. It was just a simple question and you couldn't answer it. Now your response is this? What you listed here confirms what I suspected all along and why you are not an Independent as you claim to be.

... How did you feel about Bush's decision on invading Iraq? Bush's goal of privatizing Social Security? Etc.

Hey, it's just a label -- you don't qualify for. Deal with it.

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ABC Confirms: Palin Was AIP Member

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...s-of-frin.html

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http://i38.tinypic.com/dfzi4o.jpg

CNN briefly mentioned it but never really said much else. It seems worthy to be a big story to me but barely is gaining traction despite ABC and the NYTimes reporting she was a member of this anti-american political party.

Obama says Palin's family off limits

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Sen. Barack Obama said firmly that families are off-limits in the campaign for president, reacting to news that GOP running mate Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter is pregnant.

"Let me be as clear as possible," Obama said. "I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president."

Obama said reporters should "back off these kinds of stories" and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.

"How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off-limits." Watch more of Obama's comments »

Bristol Palin, a senior in high school, is about five months pregnant, according to an aide to Sen.

the information now because of rampant Internet rumors that Sarah Palin's 4-month-old baby, who has Down syndrome, was actually Bristol's.

Obama became annoyed when asked about a Reuters news service report that quoted an unnamed senior McCain aide saying that Obama's name appears in liberal blogs speculating about Trig's parentage "in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their 'campaign of change.' " Watch analysts weigh in on the Palins' announcement »

"I am offended by that statement," the Illinois senator retorted, not letting the reporter finish his question. "There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us.
"We don't go after people's families; we don't get them involved in the politics. It's not appropriate, and it's not relevant," he added. "Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I ever thought that there was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...ef=mpstoryview