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You make me sound like a bad person.
Cant you, just for a little bit... and for a moment... try to put yourself in my position? Do you think Im happy that I was born in a male body? Do you think I need any emotional reassurance that I have been born male?
When I still lived as a boy I never topped and did not let anyone near my penis.
Now that I live as a woman I am more relaxed with it...
Its a giant step for me that I am open to someone (a lover) touching it... and even give me oral sex.... I would let a lover do that if it pleased him.
Im not a bad person. If I love another Im not selfish. Of course I want to please a man. But why cant you respect that some girls who feel like woman just cant do it? I would not be able to stay hard... the idea of having to top just makes me feel sick....It feels very masculine to me... and makes me feel bad about being TS even more.
Its not because im selfish or delusional. Sure... I know there are guys out there that like to receive anal sex. Good for them. But why do you insist on me doing it?? Just because I was born in a body that did not match my soul... does not mean I was born to serve men with a lust for receiving anal sex.
I think it is selfish of a lot of T lovers to think that once we have a cock... they think it feels the same for us... and that we can do the same things with it.
On hormones a cock feels totally different....my whole sexuality has changed a lot! Its not the same.
You are so insensitive to judge us girls the way you do.
Let me stop you right there, I haven't passed any judgment on anyone. I am simply asking questions, because I'm not you, and I don't understand how you feel. That is why I am asking. Playing the victim isn't going to allow me to understand how you feel, and what you've been through in your life. The only way I am going to understand is if you are patient with me, and realize I want to understand you just as bad as you want me to understand where you are coming from, I am trying, I really am!
So from what I've gathered is you still haven't accepted being born a boy, and you feel bad about being a TS? That breaks my heart. There are women who have the same issues with their vagina, detaching themselves emotionally from something that is meant to give them immense pleasure. Everyone can be masculine and feminine, that is the beauty of people, you just happen to of worked on your emotional "feminine" side your whole life.
That doesn't mean you can't act out masculine behavior. Do you think the reason the idea of topping startles you so much is because you still haven't accepted your penis as part of who you are? To think your potential for sexual ecstasy hasn't even been reached yet...don't you want to grow?
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KittyPride
I dont really get it.
A lot of guys here insist they are straight but like to take it up the ass etc...
But when a Tgirl is fucked in the ass it must at least be bisexual lol.
It seems indeed that you' re not getting it. Where in my post do I point to any particular sexual act?
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catherinefan
It seems indeed that you' re not getting it. Where in my post do I point to any particular sexual act?
I was replying in general lol... not to you personally... sorry xx
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mathematics1900
Let me stop you right there, I haven't passed any judgment on anyone. I am simply asking questions, because I'm not you, and I don't understand how you feel. That is why I am asking. Playing the victim isn't going to allow me to understand how you feel, and what you've been through in your life. The only way I am going to understand is if you are patient with me, and realize I want to understand you just as bad as you want me to understand where you are coming from, I am trying, I really am!
So from what I've gathered is you still haven't accepted being born a boy, and you feel bad about being a TS? That breaks my heart. There are women who have the same issues with their vagina, detaching themselves emotionally from something that is meant to give them immense pleasure. Everyone can be masculine and feminine, that is the beauty of people, you just happen to of worked on your emotional "feminine" side your whole life.
That doesn't mean you can't act out masculine behavior. Do you think the reason the idea of topping startles you so much is because you still haven't accepted your penis as part of who you are? To think your potential for sexual ecstasy hasn't even been reached yet...don't you want to grow?
Okay since you are kind and nice... I'll answer kindly :D
But its going to be hard to explain this to you. This is also part of the frustration with being TS. People just dont understand... naturally of course. And I guess its a good thing they dont...
I havent worked on my emotional feminine side my whole life. I was denied that. Throughout my youth people insisted I was a boy for them. I have escaped from this deadly prison just in time only to discover Tlovers want to put me back in it.
Imagine if you were locked up all your life... like one of the daughters of that freak Fritzl..
And you are freed after years of trauma and anguish.... but people still see you as the girl that was abused and locked up...
And you meet a new lover...
And on a date he suprises you with a cage in his bedroom... and says... honey... just for you !
Would you not feel hurt?
But the guy will go on and say... "baby Im trying to understand... but isnt it that you havent reached your sexual potential yet? Arent you just in denial what you are? You are born for that cage!
The earlier you accept that.... the better it is for you...
This is truely how this feels for me.
Get it now?
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Originally Posted by
mathematics1900
So from what I've gathered is you still haven't accepted being born a boy, and you feel bad about being a TS? That breaks my heart. There are women who have the same issues with their vagina, detaching themselves emotionally from something that is meant to give them immense pleasure.
Sorry being TS is a handicap. Any handicap has its gifts... cause it can make you a better person... be more loving compassionate... even strong mentally (cause you go through a lot)...
But having a handicap isnt a "pleasure" and it should not be the pleasure of the guy you are dating.
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KittyPride
Still srs does not change a lot i think....its not like you suddenly stop being a TS...
You change...
From pre op Ts to post op TS.
Un-Gendering at it's best.
Blinks rapidly, then LOL.
Coz you are taking the piss, yes? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...basic/chin.gif
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Tyler___Durden
sorry lol.. I dont really understand what you mean hehe
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Okay since you are kind and nice... I'll answer kindly
But its going to be hard to explain this to you. This is also part of the frustration with being TS. People just dont understand... naturally of course. And I guess its a good thing they dont...
I havent worked on my emotional feminine side my whole life. I was denied that. Throughout my youth people insisted I was a boy for them. I have escaped from this deadly prison just in time only to discover Tlovers want to put me back in it.
Imagine if you were locked up all your life... like one of the daughters of that freak Fritzl..
And you are freed after years of trauma and anguish.... but people still see you as the girl that was abused and locked up...
And you meet a new lover...
And on a date he suprised me with a cage in his bedroom... and says... honey... just for you !
Would you not feel hurt?
But the guy will go on and say... "baby Im trying to understand... but isnt it that you havent reached your sexual potential yet? Arent you just in denial what you are? You are born for that cage!
The earlier you accept that.... the better it is for you...
This is truely how this feels for me.
Get it now?
The picture is definitely becoming more clear, you are definitely helping me to understand a lot more about the feelings of most tgirls. It is interesting that you chose the Fritzl case as an analogy for your own life. I can't imagine how draining it must of been to put on the front of being a boy, when all you really wanted to do was focus on your true interests.
In my eyes though the problem with the analogy is that through years of abuse those girls have become conditioned in a horrible fashion, because now making emotional connections with people and trusting them is going to be very difficult. Not entirely identical to your life but similar in regards to the intimacy issues that arise through abuse. Is a penis what makes a boy? You have a penis, but you obviously are not a boy. So I am curious as to what you think defines someone to be a boy?
I also didn't mean to say that topping, or allowing men to give you oral sex is what it means to hit "sexual potential". What I meant by that is when you become totally comfortable, on all levels with all of your desires and even in your own skin...that to me is the only time when you will be able to reach your sexual potential. Not many people get to that point though, because without emotional support from friends and family it feels like a daily struggle not to kill yourself. If those daughters of Fritzl were to tell me that they are asexual, that they don't get any pleasure from being touched, and they don't see how any could ever enjoy sex, what would you think? We could probably both agree that intimacy issues are a lot more common than most people are willing to admit.
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Sorry being TS is a handicap. Any handicap has its gifts... cause it can make you a better person... be more loving compassionate... even strong mentally (cause you go through a lot)...
But having a handicap isnt a "pleasure" and it should not be the pleasure of the guy you are dating.
You see having a penis as a handicap, I simply don't, if you saw what I saw, if you could view yourself through my eyes, then you would never speak about yourself in such a way. Also yes, it most certainly should be the pleasure of the guy you are dating, who else is supposed to enjoy your body? It is obvious you don't enjoy having your penis, so you might as well let me enjoy it, don't you agree?
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mathematics1900
The picture is definitely becoming more clear, you are definitely helping me to understand a lot more about the feelings of most tgirls. It is interesting that you chose the Fritzl case as an analogy for your own life. I can't imagine how draining it must of been to put on the front of being a boy, when all you really wanted to do was focus on your true interests.
In my eyes though the problem with the analogy is that through years of abuse those girls have become conditioned in a horrible fashion, because now making emotional connections with people and trusting them is going to be very difficult. Not entirely identical to your life but similar in regards to the intimacy issues that arise through abuse. Is a penis what makes a boy? You have a penis, but you obviously are not a boy. So I am curious as to what you think defines someone to be a boy?
I also didn't mean to say that topping, or allowing men to give you oral sex is what it means to hit "sexual potential". What I meant by that is when you become totally comfortable, on all levels with all of your desires and even in your own skin...that to me is the only time when you will be able to reach your sexual potential. Not many people get to that point though, because without emotional support from friends and family it feels like a daily struggle not to kill yourself. If those daughters of Fritzl were to tell me that they are asexual, that they don't get any pleasure from being touched, and they don't see how any could ever enjoy sex, what would you think? We could probably both agree that intimacy issues are a lot more common than most people are willing to admit.
Thanks for your answer and understanding. Love you for it.
You also asked a good question...
Im sorry if Im hard on you.... dont mean it that way... honest...
Your question: Is a penis what makes a boy? You have a penis, but you obviously are not a boy. So I am curious as to what you think defines someone to be a boy?
Thats a great question for me. Because I was treated and raised as a boy because of my genitals. But I remember thinking as a child I would one day prove them wrong, and I did.
For me being being a TS feels like rape yes. Emotional, physical and psychological. But not every Tgirl feels this way. We are no group actually and there are a lot of difference in genderdysforia.
But to answer your question... No my penis does not make me a boy. But what I do with it does. Thats how I feel it... and believe it to be. I dont hate my penis so much. I even enjoy getting rock hard and can even feel proud because of that. And I have reached my sexual potential... at least almost.
I am a pre op TS feminine bttm. Thats my sexuality... wether its oral or anal... I enjoy the two just as much.
Of course I would like to make love as a real woman with the body of a GG but I am at ease with my cock.
Its my overal looks that I feel more insecure about then my cock. lol
What makes a girl or boy isnt the genitals... Its not the looks even... its the heart and soul... thats what I believe.
At least its true for me.
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mathematics1900
You see having a penis as a handicap, I simply don't, if you saw what I saw, if you could view yourself through my eyes, then you would never speak about yourself in such a way. Also yes, it most certainly should be the pleasure of the guy you are dating, who else is supposed to enjoy your body? It is obvious you don't enjoy having your penis, so you might as well let me enjoy it, don't you agree?
haha no I dont agree.
I am dating a guy that has no interest in my penis and we have a great time together. again... I dont hate my penis...but Im just not able to top you with it... and call me selfish... but I want to be sure to please a men in all his desires... and if I cant grant a desire he has... I will feel bad... and leave...
I want to make someone happy....
If a man treats me like a woman... with respect and sensitivity... if he is a good kisser and cuddles... I get a rock hard penis lol.... so if any man would want to enjoy my penis in any way... they's have to make me feel good as a woman first.
A lot of chasers just cant do that. They tend to somehow still treat us as boys... yes just because we have a penis lol
Just like sociaty did when I was young.
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Well if you had read what I was saying There is a pressure to have sex right away with men, and yes I have been pressured... He also had promised things before having sex that never fell trough... So I was lied to and tricked, he stated he had emotional feelings etc etc.. all lies...
I'm young you live and learn.
But this is the pressure we get from chasers, and eventually we become so numb to it, that we are so guarded after a few.
Me being in the sex industry has got nothing to do with courtship, I really hate people generalizing that because we are escorts that we know everything in personal relationships.... I know everything about money, and traveling, and hustling.
I'm 21 mind you, I don't think many people here have been with someone at 21 and it lasted....
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catherinefan
I don't go against such studies, Evon, but one should also not blindly accept such findings. Experts on human sexuality are after all also known to change their mind on things quite often.
Seeing how beautiful you are, I'm sure you have no difficulty attracting hetero men. I'm also sure that you can have a perfectly fine relationship with such a man on a platonic basis. But a man sexually attracted to you is not just interested in your feminine splendor. He will also want to savour that special treasure between your legs, and that at least to some degree would make him bisexual in my book. Not gay but also not strictly hetero.
Same thing applies of course to women who develop a passion for tgirls.
By the way, some studies have also shown that we are all basically bisexual.
Well that study is dumb.... We may be in a way intersex but know many ts that hate men physically and are lesbian...
We are not a sexuality we are a gender....
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Originally Posted by
KittyPride
Still srs does not change a lot i think....its not like you suddenly stop being a TS...
You change...
From pre op Ts to post op TS.
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KittyPride
sorry lol.. I dont really understand what you mean hehe
You are defining Trans as a separate and permanent 'Other gender'.
I've a friend who identifies thus. And there is a huge historical record (pre-christian) to support the 3rd/Other gender view.
However, almost every Ts woman I know, identifies as female,
regardless of surgery's planned / undergone.
That also applies to all of my Ts friends who Escort / do Porn.
Yes we call ourselves 'transsexuals', 'shemales' 'chicks with dicks' or whatever. But that is only in ads or DVD covers. Outside work, referring to any of us as anything other than female would cause great offence.
My point is that you view appears to me to be at variance with the self-image of most women who have a Transsexual background.
(Not that this invalidates your self identity....though your post struck me as trolling. My apologies if this was not the case. xx)
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Thanks for your answer and understanding. Love you for it.
You also asked a good question...
Im sorry if Im hard on you.... dont mean it that way... honest...
Your question: Is a penis what makes a boy? You have a penis, but you obviously are not a boy. So I am curious as to what you think defines someone to be a boy?
Thats a great question for me. Because I was treated and raised as a boy because of my genitals. But I remember thinking as a child I would one day prove them wrong, and I did.
For me being being a TS feels like rape yes. Emotional, physical and psychological. But not every Tgirl feels this way. We are no group actually and there are a lot of difference in genderdysforia.
But to answer your question... No my penis does not make me a boy. But what I do with it does. Thats how I feel it... and believe it to be. I dont hate my penis so much. I even enjoy getting rock hard and can even feel proud because of that. And I have reached my sexual potential... at least almost.
I am a pre op TS feminine bttm. Thats my sexuality... wether its oral or anal... I enjoy the two just as much.
Of course I would like to make love as a real woman with the body of a GG but I am at ease with my cock.
Its my overal looks that I feel more insecure about then my cock. lol
What makes a girl or boy isnt the genitals... Its not the looks even... its the heart and soul... thats what I believe.
At least its true for me.
Well thank you for speaking with me, I don't think you understand how much of a treat this has been! I didn't think you were being hard on me, I just think you aren't quite sure how to take me yet, but I will simply win you over with my actions. I am also positive you are attractive, just like a woman to worry about how they look when you've already got a man who obviously doesn't mind. I definitely understand why you feel the way you do then about your penis, if I could ask you just one more question, lol, since you said you really don't want to top with your own equipment, if the guy compromised with you wearing a strap-on would that still be a total no for you?
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haha no I dont agree.
I am dating a guy that has no interest in my penis and we have a great time together. again... I dont hate my penis...but Im just not able to top you with it... and call me selfish... but I want to be sure to please a men in all his desires... and if I cant grant a desire he has... I will feel bad... and leave...
I want to make someone happy....
If a man treats me like a woman... with respect and sensitivity... if he is a good kisser and cuddles... I get a rock hard penis lol.... so if any man would want to enjoy my penis in any way... they's have to make me feel good as a woman first.
A lot of chasers just cant do that. They tend to somehow still treat us as boys... yes just because we have a penis lol
Just like sociaty did when I was young.
Interesting, this is very helpful, especially the kissing and cuddling part because I must say yes, most men would assume that to get a tgirl worked up all they have to do is send a picture of their penis, lol.
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catherinefan
It seems indeed that you' re not getting it. Where in my post do I point to any particular sexual act?
insinuating a guy who is into me like amy penis as well...
False, when I get my sex change a guy say, falls in love with me... Does that make ads admirer, mind you my below is no longer dangling from my legs...
Hs fantasy now is to pound my pussy till he cums... Generalizing a population of ts admirers just won't work.
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Uhmmm no we are not handicap...
That's like a black person saying their handicap cause they are black..
Unless you lose a leg or an eye, you are perfectly normal...
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Originally Posted by
KittyPride
Sorry being TS is a handicap. Any handicap has its gifts... cause it can make you a better person... be more loving compassionate... even strong mentally (cause you go through a lot)...
But having a handicap isnt a "pleasure" and it should not be the pleasure of the guy you are dating.
So very true. It's not always true though. Some people get ground down by the world because of their differences from the norm some get polished up.
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Tyler___Durden
You are defining Trans as a separate and permanent 'Other gender'.
I've a friend who identifies thus. And there is a huge historical record (pre-christian) to support the 3rd/Other gender view.
However, almost every Ts woman I know, identifies as female,
regardless of surgery's planned / undergone.
That also applies to all of my Ts friends who Escort / do Porn.
Yes we call ourselves 'transsexuals', 'shemales' 'chicks with dicks' or whatever. But that is only in ads or DVD covers. Outside work, referring to any of us as anything other than female would cause great offence.
My point is that you view appears to me to be at variance with the self-image of most women who have a Transsexual background.
(Not that this invalidates your self identity....though your post struck me as trolling. My apologies if this was not the case. xx)
Hi there I identify as female and I dont think Im any different emotionally and mentally from woman. What has made me different though is that I was not allowed to be myself in my youth... that has changed me... for life...
I dont see myself as being a third gender, I belong to woman.
What I meant with it... that pre op or post op... my situation does not change. I have a transsexual body. And there are people out there that will judge me as such. And will not accept me as they would accept a GG.
Thats what I meant.
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EvonRose
Uhmmm no we are not handicap...
That's like a black person saying their handicap cause they are black..
Unless you lose a leg or an eye, you are perfectly normal...
This is where we disagree entirely.
Skin color and genderdysforia are not even related in any sense.
Let me tell you it in another way.
I view it as a handicap. I should have been born in the body of a girl. Not a boy.
And it really has hurt me a lot and still hurts me.
You cant change that for me.
There are a lot of different kinds of gender dysforia... please accept the way I experience it.
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Well if you had read what I was saying There is a pressure to have sex right away with men, and yes I have been pressured... He also had promised things before having sex that never fell trough... So I was lied to and tricked, he stated he had emotional feelings etc etc.. all lies...
I'm young you live and learn.
But this is the pressure we get from chasers, and eventually we become so numb to it, that we are so guarded after a few.
Me being in the sex industry has got nothing to do with courtship, I really hate people generalizing that because we are escorts that we know everything in personal relationships.... I know everything about money, and traveling, and hustling.
I'm 21 mind you, I don't think many people here have been with someone at 21 and it lasted....
Well there is also pressure in society to do heroin, get married, have children, join a church, and be rail thin, why don't you succumb to all those other pressures in the world, why is sex so irresistible for you? If you knew anything about hustling you wouldn't of been hustled out of some easy sex because the dude promised you objects and shared some feelings. I think more than anything you are just embarrassed for making a bad choice. I mean, who can blame you though? You're lonely, you want a real connection, someone to look at you and see you, not just a hole to pay for...
I am sorry that you don't believe working in the sex industry affects your relationships but you couldn't be more wrong. I mean hell, people can't even handle dating cops and doctors, do you think it is going to be easy dating a provider?
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Ah, ok I see what you mean.
Voice coaching, FFS, Geographical relocation & thus breaking ties, SRS, HRT, Hair replanting, Lower rib removal, dental feminisation, body fat sculpting, can help. Though it costs and people die in surgery's.
Risk vs reward. Difficult call.
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mathematics1900
Well thank you for speaking with me, I don't think you understand how much of a treat this has been! I didn't think you were being hard on me, I just think you aren't quite sure how to take me yet, but I will simply win you over with my actions. I am also positive you are attractive, just like a woman to worry about how they look when you've already got a man who obviously doesn't mind. I definitely understand why you feel the way you do then about your penis, if I could ask you just one more question, lol, since you said you really don't want to top with your own equipment, if the guy compromised with you wearing a strap-on would that still be a total no for you?
You are enjoyable ! :D
Thanks for the compliments... I like them....its great to see you can read between the lines :)
Eeeehm... welll..... If I loved that guy? Like a serious relationship? Yes I guess I would do it for him. Mayble not with a strap on... But I would not mind plugging him or milking him. If I loved the guy, why not.
But I tend to be attracted to guys that aren't into that lol.
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mathematics1900
Interesting, this is very helpful, especially the kissing and cuddling part because I must say yes, most men would assume that to get a tgirl worked up all they have to do is send a picture of their penis, lol.
Hope its of some use to you.
Mind you... there are a lot of difference between Tgirls...
For example...
Evon and I have a different opinion about it being a handicap.
I experience it as a handicap... but still I wont get the surgery done.
Evon will get surgery but experiences it differently then I.
Its really confusing for you boys...
Its just as confusing for me too.
These differences.
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Tyler___Durden
Ah, ok I see what you mean.
Voice coaching, FFS, Geographical relocation & thus breaking ties, SRS, HRT, Hair replanting, Lower rib removal, dental feminisation, body fat sculpting, can help. Though it costs and people die in surgery's.
Risk vs reward. Difficult call.
But you assume you will never want to talk about your past again and what you went through? A stealth life would not be healthy for me. I like to be able to share my feelings... also... being able to be a woman is something special for me. Something I am gratefull for everyday. In this way I am different from most woman also.
I could not live a stealth life.
I want to share my feelings and emotions with the people close to me.
Besides... being a TS is nothing to be ashamed of.
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You are enjoyable !
Thanks for the compliments... I like them....its great to see you can read between the lines
Eeeehm... welll..... If I loved that guy? Like a serious relationship? Yes I guess I would do it for him. Mayble not with a strap on... But I would not mind plugging him or milking him. If I loved the guy, why not.
Thank you, that is sweet of you to say! Super interesting, that is all I needed to know, and I must say you are a unique person and I am glad we got to talk a bit. :-)
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EvonRose
insinuating a guy who is into me like amy penis as well...
False, when I get my sex change a guy say, falls in love with me... Does that make ads admirer, mind you my below is no longer dangling from my legs...
Hs fantasy now is to pound my pussy till he cums... Generalizing a population of ts admirers just won't work.
yeah, but it will be a different type of objectification. Pr op or post op or even if you were a gg there will always be a large number who objectify you for your beauty. You are stunning. I guess that is a blessing as well as a curse in our society. I think it's a false assumption to think your penis attracts them now. It may attract some or many but beauty is beauty. You and a lot of other women in this forum are stunning and are going to get objectified for that alone. I'd be full of crap if I didn't admit to looking you up after reading your posts and frankly your attractiveness is quite independent of whether you dangle or not and you exude sensuality in your pictures. i am sure some only care about that part but it's probably less than you think. I can't believe that most guys dont see beautiful women. the thing is it's not really abetter place as far as finding a real partner it's still objectification. it's the issue GG face everyday. Guys tend to put charactor traits on beautiful women they wish them to have rather than see who they really are. i've done it. It is shitty for everyone involved when a fantasy is the basis of a relationship. I hope I didn't offend you with those remarks it wasn't my intent at all. I also am sure your statement is 100 percent true but, hope you find someone who wants more than that at that point :)
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Well there is also pressure in society to do heroin, get married, have children, join a church, and be rail thin, why don't you succumb to all those other pressures in the world, why is sex so irresistible for you? If you knew anything about hustling you wouldn't of been hustled out of some easy sex because the dude promised you objects and shared some feelings. I think more than anything you are just embarrassed for making a bad choice. I mean, who can blame you though? You're lonely, you want a real connection, someone to look at you and see you, not just a hole to pay for...
I am sorry that you don't believe working in the sex industry affects your relationships but you couldn't be more wrong. I mean hell, people can't even handle dating cops and doctors, do you think it is going to be easy dating a provider?
Uh no i have a boyfriend, I'm not lonley...
I am embarrassed for believing him yes, but I was also younger.. there are a lot of things I'm embarrassed about such as wetting my bed at 12...
Im a dominatrix, and the guys I have dated and dated have been perfectly fine with it....
I have graduated school, kept my family together, kept a close niche of friends, moved from one coast to another, in a healthy relationship, travel, and still find time to go out, shop, do my hair and nails... honey
Being a provider has not affected that aspect of my life... Think again.
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Originally Posted by
mathematics1900
Thank you, that is sweet of you to say! Super interesting, that is all I needed to know, and I must say you are a unique person and I am glad we got to talk a bit. :-)
Same for me xx
love
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Re: Men on dating ts women
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Originally Posted by
allurstouse
yeah, but it will be a different type of objectification. Pr op or post op or even if you were a gg there will always be a large number who objectify you for your beauty. You are stunning. I guess that is a blessing as well as a curse in our society. I think it's a false assumption to think your penis attracts them now. It may attract some or many but beauty is beauty. You and a lot of other women in this forum are stunning and are going to get objectified for that alone. I'd be full of crap if I didn't admit to looking you up after reading your posts and frankly your attractiveness is quite independent of whether you dangle or not and you exude sensuality in your pictures. i am sure some only care about that part but it's probably less than you think. I can't believe that most guys dont see beautiful women. the thing is it's not really abetter place as far as finding a real partner it's still objectification. it's the issue GG face everyday. Guys tend to put charactor traits on beautiful women they wish them to have rather than see who they really are. i've done it. It is shitty for everyone involved when a fantasy is the basis of a relationship. I hope I didn't offend you with those remarks it wasn't my intent at all. I also am sure your statement is 100 percent true but, hope you find someone who wants more than that at that point :)
Wellt hat's what I believe if a guy thinks I'm hot then nothing is stopping him from wanting to fuck me regardless..
So this is why i think just because men like ts I don't think it makes them gay.. After all men hetero men are genetically gonna go gaga for
Long healthy, thick hair
a small waist
an hourglass figure
full lips
small nose
smooth, soft and healthy glowing skin.
If a guy likes only vaginas that means a guy then would like Rosie Odonell who has a vagina....
And I'm sure men would rather fuck half the girls on this forum over her...
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Damn,no sleep for the wicked I guess
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actually i did sleep...
I had a dream, that trannies and gg will unite...as one.
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Uh no i have a boyfriend, I'm not lonley...
I am embarrassed for believing him yes, but I was also younger.. there are a lot of things I'm embarrassed about such as wetting my bed at 12...
Im a dominatrix, and the guys I have dated and dated have been perfectly fine with it....
I have graduated school, kept my family together, kept a close niche of friends, moved from one coast to another, in a healthy relationship, travel, and still find time to go out, shop, do my hair and nails... honey
Being a provider has not affected that aspect of my life... Think again.
I like how you called me honey, it shows you are already starting to place me beneath yourself, or are you simply making a preemptive strike to protect your feelings? Since it is easier to brush off the comments of a peon, am I correct? Also you wet the bed at age 12, that is very uncommon. It is possible you had issues with your muscular system controlling your bladder but you didn't say "wet the bed until 12", simply "when I was 12 I wet the bed." Strange...
Also does having a boyfriend mean you're not lonely? Lots of people are in completely non-fulfilling relationships, you're telling me this guy completely gets you, he understands you, he's connected with you on a level where he could simply look in your direction and make you cry? Of course not, I don't think you've been that in touch with your emotions for a long time, or am I completely off base?
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Re: Men on dating ts women
Great debate and communication going on in this thread...thank you
There may of been some argument and degradation, but understanding and apologies come from it
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Re: Men on dating ts women
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Originally Posted by
mathematics1900
I like how you called me honey, it shows you are already starting to place me beneath yourself, or are you simply making a preemptive strike to protect your feelings? Since it is easier to brush off the comments of a peon, am I correct? Also you wet the bed at age 12, that is very uncommon. It is possible you had issues with your muscular system controlling your bladder but you didn't say "wet the bed until 12", simply "when I was 12 I wet the bed." Strange...
Also does having a boyfriend mean you're not lonely? Lots of people are in completely non-fulfilling relationships, you're telling me this guy completely gets you, he understands you, he's connected with you on a level where he could simply look in your direction and make you cry? Of course not, I don't think you've been that in touch with your emotions for a long time, or am I completely off base?
No I wet my bed because i am from a country over 100 degrees and having to adjust to a city that's always cold... Sweetie...
Your way off base i am very emotional person, but i know how to separate business with real life..
You know me as Evon Rose my hustling, money making, dom side..
But you do not know the real me outside of this this forum and this industry you don't even know my real name, my hobbies, what food i like, or movies, or games.. makign assumption based on the person alter ego/work persona is off based...
So your assumptions are offensive, and that's why I choose to place you beneath me. Rather than take time to asses the situation, you come to a conclusion. Therefore, I don't need to sit here and try to understand you either...
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Re: Men on dating ts women
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Originally Posted by
EvonRose
actually i did sleep...
I had a dream, that trannies and gg will unite...as one.
Why just tg gg unite,why not everybody...what are you sexist or something???(that was a joke by the way)
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Re: Men on dating ts women
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doctor screw
Why just tg gg unite,why not everybody...what are you sexist or something???(that was a joke by the way)
haha...
No because boys ruin everything...
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Re: Men on dating ts women
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EvonRose
A hetero predominant is bisexual....
so youre gonna pigeonhole 5 areas on his scale into 1 lable? that retarded
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I think that before people start going on about the different terms for it I think they need to educate themselves on sexual terms...
you in particular
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There are many exclusive hetero who only like gg and sometimes ts...
any guy whos into ts is in no way a 0 on the kinsey scale and therefore no exclusively heterosexual
i suppose its debateable whether or not attraction to transsexuals even fits in that scale at all or whether that an axis entire perpendicular to it but thats a different matter
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hefzfavebunii
THANK YOU!!!!!!! :Bowdown: You can easily come to this conclusion, because I'm guessing your fragile identity doesn't require believing the men who fuck you to be "heterosexual", like hers does.
im not into being fucked by men but i guess youre welcome?!? i dont even know how to respond to that post
anyway more to the point i come to this conclusion (like anybody with a working intellect will) because ive seen to much to still live in a naive world where things can be categorized and labeled easily
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Re: Men on dating ts women
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EvonRose
Generalizing a population of ts admirers just won't work.
You feel he's hetero........I feel he's bi-sexual.
If I'm generalizing aren't you doing the very same thing?
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I feel like I'm so superior with a bunch of little brains...
I can't argue with people who think gender dysphoria as a sexuality...
Sexuality is the attraction of the same or opposite gender or the non attraction.
Transexuality is a gender as is male or female..
Within this gender, there is an umbrella of sexuality...
You wiki links shows nothing about transsexuality, because we mtf are with the female group.
I am a transexual mtf making me hetero/curious female therefore, a man attracted to me would be heterosexual or bisexual man or bisexual or lesbian female...
How can you guys not know this? I am so appalled by the stupidity of many people here. Yet they argue about something that is not even related..
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Re: Men on dating ts women
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Originally Posted by
muh_muh
any guy whos into ts is in no way a 0 on the kinsey scale and therefore no exclusively heterosexual
But what about a guy that dates a masculine looking girl...but because the girl has a vagina he is straight?
When another guy falls for a feminine TS he must be bisexual...
Something does not really add up here...
