the dons playing this like it's a reality show finale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc7Qje1aaGw
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the dons playing this like it's a reality show finale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc7Qje1aaGw
I like Hillary. Always have. She's a bit more conservative than I'd like, but nobody's going to be in lockstep with me. She's been vetted & investigated constantly for the last 23 years, & nobody's been able to come anywhere close to actually pinning anything on her. There's nothing there. It's all just a bunch of lies, told by assholes who have nothing else to talk about because they never had anything to talk about in the first place.
The loud mouth reactionaries saw her abilities to organize when she trotted out the healthcare proposal in '94 & knew she was gonna make a run for the White House. They've been trying to paint her as more evil than the devil ever since. None of it washes. It's been the most vile, disgusting, & dishonest vilification I've ever seen. And I'm 65 years old. I've never seen anybody attacked like this, for so long a time, without any supporting evidence to back any of it at all. The theory of memes is if you repeat a lie enough, it'll start becoming regarded as fact, regardless of how ridiculous it was/is. The kool-aid drinkers will buy it no matter what, If it's told by one of their demigods.
The Republicans just got a taste of their own medicine with this October surprise. All the whining and claims that Trump admitted to unwanted groping are every bit as bogus as the attacks on Sen. Clinton. But nobody cares other than Donald Trump, because he made himself vulnerable to the same kind of memetic silliness he's been spouting himself. I don't buy any of it, & all those accusing women crawling out of the woodwork is too convenient to be anything more than a political ploy. Dollars to donuts they just fade away after the election. Trump didn't realize how much scrutiny a politician has to put up with. Oops!
Don't get me wrong. There's nothing I'd like better than to see Donald Trump lose all 50 States to the bitch of his nightmares. He's earned it with all of his diligence and hard work at being a buffoon. The Republican Party earned their share of grief by being too chickenshit to refute the crazy. Goes around comes around and all that crap. We all knew how bad it was when John McCain was basically forced to accept Sara Palen as his running mate. The most ignorant & stupid person ever to be in that position. Pretty fuckin' sad. It's been a major embarrassment for the whole nation in the eyes of the world.
I don't have the attention span to look into every accusation made against her, but if one does a random sampling of the ones you can pay attention to, they always lack substance. The recent thing Republicans are talking about to bolster Trump's absurd claim of election rigging (which even though untrue can lead to rioting and violence when he loses) is that there is voter fraud. Their evidence of this is that recently deceased people have not been eliminated from the polls of registered voters.Quote:
Originally Posted by hippifried
However, this does not lead to the conclusion that people are impersonating the dead to vote under their names, or that the dead are being resurrected and voting for Hillary...but the fact that the records of deaths cannot be immediately reconciled with the records of voter registration is being used to fuel this spurious claim. We also keep hearing about how the media is rigging the election for Hillary because a lot of media members support Hillary. Well, so too do a large number of educated people. This is not rigging in any conventional or unconventional sense. It only shows that Trump doesn't know what the word rig means. Not surprising from someone who said something in the debate about large "swatches" of land....I haven't worn a swatch in decades.
with ailes having left trump in free fall, his last ditch effort is to sabotage the election by saying it's rigged and refusing to concede if he loses.
and you're right: trump doesn't know what the word rig means. while the 20000 wikileaks pages of emails are pretty damning, most people will pay attention to the groping offense more- afterall, what makes a better halloween costume?
Attachment 974182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOUFsCS7xYE
trump actually managed to fuck up his own speech @ the al smith charity dinner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ngEujYYKcI
meanwhile, clinton faired much better despite a few cringeworthy jokes in the beginning
I thought a couple of Trump's jokes were okay. They got really weak at one point in time...I wonder if this was the difference between professionals helping him write a few of the early ones and him insisting on his own taste right around the time he got to the "Hillary is so corrupt...." joke.
Hey Maria Bartiromo- thanks for the October surprizes,,,,,
Nothing "conservative" about those tits except for the Cro-Magnon-type subliminal messages they broadcast.
Maybe it's just the pig that I am......
I'm with HER"S.
I think something you don't hear about is that the core-trumpists don't like that the Dems have a BLACK man in the highest seat of the land, and they got nothing.
As a STRONGMAN, Trump not only has shown feet of clay, he's not a very good actor either.
Just like our first black president proved to be the opposite of the caricature,
the first woman president has the daunting task of having to shit nineteen trillion US Dollars.
I hope she didn't accidentally delete the plan on how to do that when she scrubbed her hard drive.
I do feel like if Hillary doesn't hostess a nineties type economy again in say....three years, ........she will be viewed as a failure.
Save us Hillary, save us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csEQuote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
If he wins you get a free pony.
^^^ as much as i appreciate (somewhat) his sense of humor i really hate his campaign slogan; also wish he took the satire to the nth degree rather than his current shtick but kudos to him for getting out there and making politics look barnum and bailey circus it really is.
speaking of circus', this exchange betwix newt "my face is actually a clown mask welded on my face" gingrich and megyn kelly on polls and "reality" is pretty interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RVqTfIKGbU
Trump and Kelly Ann have been using the BREXIT card to discredit the polls showing him about to get trounced. He's a fucking moron but I figured Kelly Ann had a little more respect for facts. In early Jine, a few weeks before the vote, the majority of polls had the result too close to call. A few actually had Leave slightly ahead.
But for Trump to make stuff up is par for the course.
In addition there is the fact that the EU Referendum was a simple Remain/Leave choice and had Leave won by a margin of 0.1% the result would have been Brexit, whereas a US Presidential election is not a 'first past the post' vote but a process whereby the States vote, and the Electoral College decides, and it is possible for a candidate to win the popular vote fail to win the Presidency. The comparison with Brexit must be lost on most Americans anyway as I doubt they even know what the EU is.Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
This is standard waffle from an experienced politician who has baited the Clinton family ever since they stole half the wardrobe of the Republican Party to win two elections. When the Polls say you are winning you give a guarded affirmation that they are right while insisting the only Poll that matters is taken on Election Day. When the Polls are against you it is because a) the polls are flawed, b) the results are weighted and thus take no account of potential last minute changes of mind, and c) your own statistics show a different and more positive trend that will become clearer on election day. The simple message is that you must always stress you are strong, that you are ahead, that your have widespread support, and never, never, never even indicate you are losing a single vote -a standard campaign rule in all and any election.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
Newton Gingrich also failed to expose a bias in Fox News by ignoring the fact that Trump makes headlines because of what he says and in particular because he tends to respond to criticism by going on the attack, creating more news that Trump wants the media to report. Hillary Clinton by contrast does not or rarely gives the Media enough daily material to create headline news. Here you see the difference between a clever politician with an experienced team that, yes, knows how the play the media, compared to a foul-mouthed intruder whose campaign is 90% personality and 10% policy, to be generous even to Trump. He craves media attention, so Gingrich cannot complain when he gets it.
And what is all this free advertising for the Trump Hotel business? He says his new DC Hotel is the most valuable real estate in DC other than the White House. More valuable than Congress, the Smithsonian, the Lincoln Memorial? Maybe one needs to be an American to comprehend this. And is Trump asking for the people's vote or their dollars? Can't believe this is even legal!
How sad is it that we have forgotten 2000 when Gore beat Bush in the popular vote and lost the Electoral Vote.
You don't need to study analytics to understand the Electoral College. Most states have voted the same way for at least the last twenty years and the makeup heavily favors the Democrats. The Republicans need a lot to go their way to win.
But in this instance the race was over in February. We just need to sift through two more weeks of garbage. Then we get the anti-Hillary memes.
Sadly, I actually think Trump Tv is going to end up making his family money. I don't think he planned it that way but the way his campaign has gone, even if his hotel brand is damaged, he does have enough followers and capital to develop a successful television network. I'd be surprised if we don't see him create something to the right of fox, with moonbats fulminating against the so-called left wing media.
Of course he denies wanting to start the network but that's just because he doesn't want to be accused of giving up on the election and focusing on that. But it's not hard to see him complaining after he loses that the media was against him all along and it's his patriotic duty to start a network that tells the truth. We'll see...it might be too expensive for him to get off the ground by himself, but Jared Kushner, his son in law has already met with various industry people.
i don't know about that. trump has proved that he cannot really manage a business for long (eg. trump university, trump steaks, go trump, trump vodka, trump mortgage, trump magazine or donald trump jr. all failures.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
if there's going to be a trump tv it will be an online thing only kinda like sarah palin's paid subscription service that barely managed 12 months of business: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...line/29849771/
steak anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyONt_ZH_aw
ha! the whole interview betwix newt and megyn kelly didn't even surprise trump. he always knew she was biased says his senior advisor
i love how trump knows all these things, including being an expert in military stratergy
After reading a little bit about it, I think you're right. Expensive to start up, difficult to manage, takes years to generate profits even if it's done well. He doesn't have the management skill to do it...it could be done with his audience, but not by him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
I mean if he actually brought in a team of really talented people and worked with them...eh not his style:)
My greater worry, should Hillary win, is the continuation of obstructionism on the part of the legislative branch. Cruz and McCain have already promised that Republicans will block any and all of Hillary’s Supreme Court Nominees. It is already unprecedented to have blocked (without a vote) Obama’s most recent nominee for over three-hundred days now. The Senate is neglecting its duty to CONSIDER and vote usurping the Constitutional power of the president to appoint judges to the Supreme Court with the ADVICE and CONSENT of the Senate. If the Senate remains red, the Court may remain crippled for the next four years. The Dems NEED to take the Senate.
The House will almost assuredly remain red. I expect all proposals for fixing our Health Care system will die in House. Likely the House will vote fifty more times to overturn Obama Care. Members of the House are already hinting they’ll investigate Hillary’s emails again. The Dems NEED to win more down-ticket races. Hillary NEEDS a mandate.
Trump will not lose gracefully. My biggest worry is his gun-toting fans may take things into their own hands. We’ll see more Bundy-like take overs of Federal Wildlife preserves, more racism, more alt-right and neo-nazi activity all spurred on by Trump’s tweets and whatever new Palinesque media venue (Breitbart TV?) he’ll find for himself.
The GOP is not dying; it’s transforming - into something very ugly. It’s been transforming ever since Obama was elected (a black president President - OH MY - can’t be one of us - must be a Kenyan with anti-colonialist politics) and teabaggers started carrying guns into townhall meetings where citizens were asked to give their input on what they would like to see in a federal healthcare system. Remember the signs that read, “Keep UR Govt Mits Off My Medicare.”
Someday in the near future, some Caligula from this darkly devolving GOP is going to make it to the White House. I just hope he doesn’t usher in the next Dark Age.
except do you think a guy (or guys) like this can hit a still target? especially when that target has secret service agents around.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Attachment 975489
even the last guy that tried couldn't get it done and only just recently got parole. anyone know who john hinkley jr. is voting for or will he sit this one through?
No I don't think threats of assassination will be any higher for Hillary than for Obama, but I do fear more guns on display at protests, counter-protests and Bundy-like occupations - these things don't always start out with the intent of violence, but they can escalate to that pretty quickly. Polling officials are already fearful there may be violence at the polling places during this election - Trump and telling his followers to go to polls and make sure there are no shenanigans, "You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying." I'm afraid I do know what he's saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
oh you mean like joe walsh recently threatened/said?
i think what these yokels never take into account is how outnumbered and out armed they are. it's the whole tell don't show mentality
Seems a bit smug. It's not that we don't know what the EU is (very similar to the original American Articles of Confederation that got tossed in the round file during the constitutional convention because it was an unsustainable system), we just don't care. Been there done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
There's nothing going on in the US that even remotely compares to Brexit. Well... except for all the reactionary hysteria. We have Trump leading the crazy charge here. But Brexit actually won over there. We'll see how this shakes out in the days ahead. I'm thinking this just may a turning point in the relationship between the voters and the media coverage. Hope so.
Not smug at all. You are intelligent and well-informed, but many of your fellow Americas are not probably because, as you indicate, they don't care. A Gallup poll, 2004 to be fair, discovered 77% of Americans do not know what the EU is or does. Another reason my remarks are not smug is that on our side, I doubt 77% of British citizens can accurately describe how the US President is elected, or name a single Senator or Congressional Representative. And it is when you realise those 77% -on whichever side of the pond they live- make up most of the people voting that you worry about the futureQuote:
Originally Posted by hippifried
Case in point. I thought the European Union was formed in the 1990s' after the fall of Communism. Come to find its roots date to back to after the second world war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
trump suggested we cancel the elections and give him the presidency. i actually like that idea of repealing democracy and making him commander-in-chief.
no need to fret- turns out it's totally cool for us white guys to do "bundy-like occupations"Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...027-story.html
Here is the political ad of the election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjRwNUQDRU
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Can Americans? They should explain in great detail to me until I fully understand. On the condition that I explain the rules of Cricket to them. Then let's see what is complicated.
Cricket has been played in the US since the 18th century and the Staten Island Cricket Club is one of the oldest in the world, though these days it is mostly played by immigrants (and descendants) from the Caribbean -you may have read Joseph O'Neills's novel Netherland (Pantheon, 200-eight) of whose plot the NYT review noted-Quote:
Originally Posted by martin48
The book’s second story line, and perhaps its more resonant one, is about the solace Hans finds in the vibrant subculture of cricket in New York, where he is among the few white men to be found on the hundreds of largely West Indian teams in the city, teams that fan out, in the hazy summertime, across scrabby, lesser-known public parks
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/bo.../Garner-t.html
Maybe 77% of Caribbean origin Americans do know the rules of Cricket. Is that satisfactory?
Easy.
You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game
I think I'm beginning to understand what Deepak Chopra's been saying all these years!
Donald J. Trump might be in love with American Indian voters, his declared love for India however sounds hollow given the attacks he has made on foreigners taking the American jobs he is going to 'repatriate' at the expense of...er...the Tata Group and other Indian conglomerates. Tata was founded in 1868 and is the largest industrial conglomerate in India, it also runs a consultancy service which the Trump claims is linked to the Clinton campaign.
Apparently Mr Trump doesn't in fact love Indians, or not all of them, as his campaign team argued-
"HCL and Tata are responsible for the layoffs of workers from Disney , Southern California Edison, Northeast Utilities, Xerox, University of California, Siemens, and countless others," it added
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...campaign=cppst
Meanwhile the prospect of a Trump Presidency has led to a fall in the value of shares in India IT giant Infosys-
Concern around the US election had focused partly on concerns that Donald Trump, if elected, could introduce policies to restrict companies’ use of Indian IT contractors: for example, imposing high minimum pay levels for skilled foreign workers in order to encourage hiring of local people. Companies could also be deferring projects involving outsourcing in order to avoid criticism, he added, noting the heated rhetoric on the subject during the campaign.
https://www.ft.com/content/a354488c-...34b78Northeast Utilities, Xerox, University of California, Siemens, and countless others," it added
Indians don't take jobs. They buy motels.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/op...one-share&_r=0
Possible Hatch Act violation by Comey.
Comey's underlings in the FBI felt betrayed when he dropped the email investigation against Hillary. He felt betrayed by the evidence which never accumulated to anything he could act upon. He disappointed himself, his party and it all added to his longtime hatred of the woman who threatens his long held conservative ideals. He gave in to the pressure from without and within. As a result he may come under pressure of an investigation of his own actions: Is he attempting to use his position in the FBI to influence an election? Poor James Comey is under so much pressure from so many different directions, I don't believe he's even in control of himself anymore.