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I'm British, I don't care. i'm not American, and his election should it happen woulnd't bother me...
Well; It should holzz. WAKE UP! This man is a f++king lunatic! It's not only the Americans who will need to sleep with one eye open but the rest of he world too!
Hollz; If you're not interested in Politics don't write pointless comments under these threads. If you are interested; be f++king scared of this guy! :nervous:
So Trump wants to arm teachers and kids! Blames the mental ill - why are they such a problem? Because you have a healthcare system that benefits only those that can afford it. Mental health in the US is managed by the US Prison Service. Why can't people like Trump understand that?
I tried to watch most of the latest Republican candidates debate on youtube but the fourth part was not available for copyright reasons. I don't think they discussed gun control (not even its relationship to bacon, see youtube clip below) or foreign policy. The greatest cheer from the public came when I think it was Ted Cruz complained about the 'mainstream media' ganging up on them, and this from a man who claimed he wanted to focus on 'substantive issues'. Where Fox News and the Murdoch press fits into the US media environment I evidently do not know.
My impression is that Trump is losing interest, apart from the usual sarcastic remarks about his competitors he had little to say about policy that showed any grasp of what taxation or social security might look like in detail. But I also wonder how others like Ben Carson and Rand Paul are allowed to promote 'flat tax' ideas which have been considered elsewhere and then dropped -here in the UK the United Kingdom Independence Party used to have a flat tax policy which they dropped because it simply doesn't work in terms of raising tax revenue, and is blatantly unfair.
Jeb Bush came across as someone who has given up the fight, I think he will have dropped out by the New Year. I cannot understand the appeal of Ben Carson who to me is inarticulate and has no grasp of policy, Kasich appears to know what he is talking about and is making extravagant claims for Ohio which may be true for all I know, but does come across as a headmaster lecturing schoolchildren. Chris Christie comes across as a bully and the smart person's favourite, Marco Rubio came out on top, at times he even sounded reasonable, which these days must be an achievement for a Republican.
Most striking is that none were prepared to admit the Party in Congress is divided against itself and may be to blame for the gridlock and caving in to 'special interests' that they insist is why Washington is out of touch with the voters, and none look to me like Presidential material. It may be easy to mock Hillary Clinton and summon the ghosts of the past to rise up and swarm all over her campaign, but she is the only candidate so far who appears to have experience in policy making at the highest level, and a degree of seriousness and application that the others lack.
Though still to early to call, it looks to me like Rubio has the staying power, while most of the others are a waste of time, but who knows how the voters will call it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaZGaJrd3x8
As always Stavros, your analysis is spot on. Rubio looks like he can pick up the remnants of the inevitable Trump-Carson meltdown and hold on until the finish line. But in the general versus Hillary he'll be drubbed as bad as Goldwater in '64.
BTW. Did you catch the part wher Marco said his kids are getting a proper Christian education? made me wanna barf
Thanks for the compliment, but there is a long way to go and my views divorced as they are from the home ground may be more superficial than most Americans. The comment on the Christian education is par for the course these days, it might even suit the Republican Party to declare itself a Christian party...or, let's not go there.Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
In the UK press the news today is that a billionaire called David Singer is backing Rubio, which may enable the lad to open campaign offices in various states where none so far exist; while the Republican National Committee has effectively told NBC it won't co-operate with them in the debate scheduled for February because of the 'inane' questions asked by the biased team in Boulder. That sounds to me like a child taking his ball away from a game when he can't score. The problem is the format, as we have noted before, because there isn't enough time to drill down into the details.
Ms Fiorina for example wants to reduce 75,000 pages of tax regulations to 3. I suspect she actually wants to abolish tax on everything other than the armed forces but is too coy to say so, but if there is a serious debate to be had on taxation, at one time the most toxic issue in American politics, a debate featuring seven people with 30 seconds of air time is not the place for it.
Where is the debate on education or science; energy and climate change; agriculture and food? There are a host of hugely important issues that are not raised and maybe yes, it is because the pundits want to create good tv and so it is better (and easy) to bait Trump, and ask fatuous questions like 'What is your greatest weakness? rather than look at the state of California and ask -is the USA facing a long term crisis of food production, and how would you deal with that?
It is just as bad over here a lot of the time.
don't care...if anything he represents how most Americans are politically. i think we need to end this "special relationship", bring all troops home,and focus on national defence. this includes renewing Trident. Even if Hilary won, or Bush III, or Jindal or anybody else, this "alliance" with the USA doesn't serve us.
Really - one of those U-turns?Quote:
Originally Posted by holzz
On 09-11-2014:
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Originally Posted by holzz
What do you Brits make of our next first lady?? ha ha ha.
http://s2.postimg.org/u1ygdfu7t/Melania_Trump_2.jpg
pictures upload
To be honest...quite a few of them have attractive wives.
Trump is ok. Some questionable views but then again he is American and a Republican at that.
At least he is not.bought and sold like the politicians
It'll be interesting to see the new poll numbers, post Paris massacre
could be a big bounce for Trump
I seriously fucking hope not!Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
"Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Saturday that the terror attacks in Paris would have been 'a much, much different situation' had the victims been armed with guns."
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-guns-20151114
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rmed-guns.html
Apparently he said something similar after the Charlie Hebdo attack earlier in the year.
What a total arsehole... (Trump, not you flabby...)
At least if Trump were elected we could have a Military Junta to drag that fool out of the White House around April 2017 and enact Martial Law. After we cleaned up the Middle East's problems through brutal savagery the likes of which the world had never seen, we could take over the Banks and the IRS and reshuffle a few things. Maybe kill a few lawyers for treason. Balance the books to ZERO.
The Candidate said this:Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
"When you look at Paris — the toughest gun laws in the world, Paris — nobody had guns but the bad guys. Nobody. Nobody had guns," Trump said at a presidential campaign rally in Beaumont, Texas.
Evidently The Candidate has not seen the footage of the gunfight between the Gendarmeries and the gunmen at Le Bataclan concert venue around the junction of the Boulevard Voltaire and the Passage Saint-Pierre Amelot, because the police in Paris are not only armed they even call them the Gendarmeries...when did the average American last take their gun to a rock concert?
Trump has nothing to say about the massacres in Paris that is worth hearing, it is as simple as that. Whether or not what he does say will improve his chances of becoming the Republican Party's candidate I don't know. Talking tough may sound like the best remedy but unless he is prepared to put some detail into it, it will just be another slide in the power point presentation of the kind we got from Sander in the Democrat debate in Iowa. Someone needs to take that man into a room and tell him what is actually happening in the Middle East, he is even more embarrassing than Trump.
Yeah...on the Democratic side, as shown during their last debate, the transpired events in France may have helped to solidify Hillary Clinton's wavering support...at least I would think so. Her tenure as Secretary of State gives her an edge in experience and at least during the mideast foreign policy portions of the debate, she comes away as the most trust worthy of the three when it comes to situations such as this.
She's definitely going to have the support of moderate Democrats I would think. When people need to feel safe, they might prefer to throw their support behind a candidate who seems to have the gravitas for this. Love her or hate her, of the Democrats, I think Ms. Clinton has this.
Bernie Sanders....................not so much.
Not at all.
The gun stuff notwithstanding, I think a lot of people like tough talk. I have to admit that even though I know Trump is completely full of shit I like to hear someone say they will obliterate ISIS. But in reality, one can be committed to killing them without putting it in such blunt terms. I do kind of get tired of Washington speak, where you say you will degrade them or neutralize them....but the alternative is promising things you can't deliver.Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
I have not watched the democratic debates. I made up my mind very early on that Hillary was the only reasonable choice...Sanders seems to be a man who has the same answer no matter what the question is. Far too one-dimensional.
Homer Simpson will be nominated before Trump, .....relax.Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
I'm thinking European Hard-Liners should be getting more popular due to current events.
Odds for Trump have gone from 100-1 a few weeks ago to 7-1. If Hillary gets indicted by the FBI............then I take back my Homer Simpson joke. America will be great again.
The terror attack in Paris, either intentional or not, hit young progressives. It also may turn out that some of the participants involved may have gotten there by infiltrating the Syrian refugees...mass acceptance of which is also more of a progressive ideal...and a fear of which would bring out Republican voters big time. It could change the minds of some progressive voters and certainly of progressive Independents. Because of this, I believe that if the elections were held tomorrow, almost any of the Republicans left on the big stage would win the election for President. Its just how politics work.
But there is still a lot of time to go before the election.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...point-4-supre/
This was the closest thing I could find to an all purpose thread for the election. But maybe the biggest thing at stake in the next election is the court. Bader Ginsburg, Scalia, and Kennedy are 80 years old or older and Breyer is 78. The court will be deciding issues such as the constitutionality of banning gay marriage, the affordable care act, and regulation of abortion...the court can always overturn old decisions because it's the highest court in the land. To me, this is the most long-lasting change. If a Democrat appoints four new justices, you have Kagan and Sotomayor plus four more with similar ideological leanings (three will do actually)...equals a majority for quite a long time.
America has never been great...for ALL of its residents. In America's past there's always been someone marginalized (Blacks, the Japanese, Jews, LGBT, women, children, the poor)...and electing Heil Toupee won't change that. So miss me with that "Make America Great Again" bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
Ben, as I have said before, Obama followed by Clinton really is AS GOOD AS IT GETS for the BLACK and LGBT community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben in LA
And they get my vote, I'll be dancing election night....
HOWEVER....if Hillary erased some damning email and the FBI techies can "un-erase" it, then suddenly everything changes.
Sanders, O'Malley, and Biden are all beatable.
And if it came down to Trump, Carson, Rubio, or Cruz.............
Trump V. Sanders???
I dunno!!???????
Don't you just love hypotheticals. You can use them spread all kinds of shit. What if Rubio shot and killed a loan shark who held his mark and the FBI finds out?Quote:
if Hillary erased some damning email...
The election is a few weeks less than a year away. Anything can happen. Anything might be discovered. What if Jesus descends from the clouds and endorses Frank Oz? Vote for Oz, Christians will.
On the details you are right; but it is as an idea that America is great. And even with its flaws the USA has been a great success compared to most other states, showing an ability to change which seems close to impossible in, for example, the United Kingdom or France where ossified institutions persist with no regard whatsoever for the social changes taking place around them. That might not be much comfort for Americans who are not really bothered by what happens elsewhere, but it might explain why many people would swap their life in Birmingham for a new one in Birmingham. However quite a few Brits do retire to Florida, which does need some explaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben in LA
I don't know who Frank Oz is, but I suspect that if Jesus did descend from the clouds, it would not take long for him to be arrested and end up in in a police cell. What happens after that I dread to think for a man with long hair, a beard and of Middle Eastern appearance...Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
In this case I guarantee you that damning emails were erased. And the FBI is looking for them. So it's not really that hypothetical.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
They actually vetted Rubio for a possible vice-president position last election and they found stuff.
The voice of Yoda, Frank Oz is. Emails erased guarantees there are none.
Hmmm...there are times when I realise I must live a sheltered life. I will assume Yoda is a brand of yoghurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
By almost any measure, Obama has been terrible for minorities (especially African-Americans).Quote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
Under Obama:
Black Poverty Rate has gotten worse
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/oba.../08/id/545866/
Black Unemployment Rate is virtually unchanged, still worse than overall unemployment rate
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/u...r-barack-obama
Minorities' Median Household Income has sharply dropped
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...eat-recession/
Black Household Median Net Worth has fallen by a fifth, and is 1/13th that of white households
http://townhall.com/columnists/larry...8985/page/full
Black Home Ownership is down, despite white home ownership going up
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-deroy-murdock
Simple, Florida has much better weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Izz gonna git HOTT for ISIS, you betcha, don't worry France, don't worry Downtrodden, TRUMP is ON THIS!!!!
http://s7.postimg.org/q11g8cinf/trumpff.jpgupload photos
Why not just build a bloody great wall.
Plan attached
If you're planning a direct tunnel between the US and England, then I want Hadrian's wall rebuilt...Quote:
Originally Posted by martin48
Where are the jobs the job creators promised? And no, I don't think Trump (or Uncle Ben) would do any better...but certainly worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamon
As ye Learn'ed scholars trivialize my posts, I want you to stop and take your hat off to the immense power of BULLSHIT on our politics and daily lives. As Jesus said 'Give unto God, that which is God's, and give the bullshitters bullshit"
In the original Aramaic it was goatshit, ......and they changed it to Caesar in the King James translation.
But you can bet even back in Roman times, the aroma wafting from the Senate floor wasn't coming from the bottom of sandals, it was coming from Senator's mouths.
So show some respect when you watch the debates on TV. You're watching History in the Making.
I watch History as it's passing.
Trump wants to require Muslims to register. His poll numbers are soaring
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...emocrats/?_r=0