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Anybody who has experience with women born with a vagina - would know the difference between a surgically constructed one. It doesn't matter how good the surgeons skills are. I accept that someone with little experience with woman - or in the circumstances where the post-op woman would keep the lights off and not allow oral, then some naive individuals ... could be fooled.
Sorry to burst your bubbles.
James Edwards ... have you even been with a woman - or a post-op TS?
I have a post-op friend who is an occasional fuck buddy, who I have known for over 10 years. She had her SRS performed by Dr Suporn about 20 years ago, superb work, looks and feels very natural. Can I tell the difference? Of course. Is it nonetheless a wonderful, sublime, sexually satisfying experience to penetrate her pussy? Yes indeed, absolutely.
erm...yes they should.....i don't see why relationships must be based on deceit/lies, but there you go..
I admit they look real, but doesn't justify lying to partners....if that's what you do, then fine...Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesedwards
yep, since many people know about SRS, or about transgenderism...Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
When lab grown organs become a success, I am sure most post op transwomen will want to have vaginas with all the plumbing grown from stem cells. It is even possible to create eggs or sperm from skin cells. It is possible to change chromosomes from XY to XX on a near complete scale by re-constituting the XX blastocyst cells and culture them with bone narrow stem cells so the body replenishes itself with XX chromosomes in lieu of XY chromosomes. Would you guys still consider it necessary for a post-op transwomen to say even if she has the real thing and he ability to produce children?
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Originally Posted by cutesteph
Best question of the week.
I don't know. I think it's difficult going into a serious/marriage type relationship with something like that being a secret - but then we all have secrets, much would depend on the individuals.
I would hope she tells me when she's balls deep in my ass! Oh wait...
While sitting on my sticky wet face, covered with her cream :tongue:
I agree with YOU! I am against lying, a Post Op shut be up front from the beginning. Let the man make the choice not on deceit. The tragedies that have happen to Post ops and Pre ops is enough to want to tell the truth so there won't be any craziness. If the guy knows up front he can't say shit afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by holzz
Your post was simple and straight to the point I agree.
I don't care how many pussies a man has been around if he never ever ever, never ever, never ever ever ever never been with a Post op he won't be able to tell. If you know already a TGirl is a Post op of course you will know the difference people, because YOU know her to be a TGirl already. this is to general people not you Holzz
You said a lot of clinical terms, yet the last statement is of no affect because no matter how stem cell research goes, you can't make a man have an Uterus or Fallopian tubes and Ovaries. That's the clinical constitution of a woman and the foundation in order to have a child.
So to answer your question she should tell him, because a Tgirl will never have UFO! lol man that worked out right, Uterus, Fallopian tubes and Ovaris=UFO!
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Originally Posted by cutesteph
Lol at "you said a lot..." Good stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesedwards
I weirder, though- we can reroute to send organs blood when the normal supply is lost, and we've already grown ears and livers- can we create nerve connections yet?
I feel like we'd need working nerve connections to make them function correctly, but I bet internal organs are possible soon, if not now.
I can't imagine that sort of thing being affordable anytime soon, though. Surgery would be outrageous and then you have the organs...
Stem cell 3d print cartridges are prolly expensive AF.
I think in this case the answer is still "yes."Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesteph
Some people are never going to be OK with transsexuals and some who are obviously aren't confident enough to deal with negative reactions from their friends/families.
But give me a world in which everyone accepts transsexuals or in which the details never come to light, and i think it's OK for the Bionic TS to keep quiet.
We have the technology...
YES HE WILL.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesedwards
You didn't answer the question. How many post-op girls have you been intimate with - or for that answer, how many "pussies". I'm presuming the answer is low to nil, for both.
LOL yeah, but we know from the fact the difference between male and female. as said men don't have certain organs as a woman like UFO!
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Originally Posted by Tapatio
Embarrassment is a motha fucka. Like that guy that came on the Jenny Jones show and there was a gay person there after him, so he left the show calm, and then he killed the person.
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Originally Posted by Tapatio
No need unless blind or lived in a cave they know once again though sexy as hell no such thing as a possible ts...I dated a piat OK off and on for years a very beautiful one too but she was spooked often and heckled.
Lots of pussy, I am with a GG now! she is My Domme! I have not been with any Post Op TGirls, I love Pre-Op TGirls. The question wasn't about ME being with Post Op TGirls! If I were to get with one and didn't know I have the right to know! There's your answer
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Originally Posted by GroobySteven
HOw do yall explain the news that Natina gave about men not knowing for years? There are men that can't tell between a TGirl and a GG, there are TGirls that look better than GG's. I have seen GG's that say they look like drag queens when they are women! Not everyone will be able to tell the difference and if you say Every man will know, then yall are delusional as fuck!
Well.... not necessarily.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesedwards
"The breakthrough could also be meaningful to transgender people seeking sex-reassignment surgery, though the researchers did not comment on that possibility."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...neering-first/
Regardless of what a girl thinks, she should tell. I mean... I would want to be able to make a decision about something like that if my partner were the transperson as well.
Bingo, that's why you're so clueless about the difference between a a real vagina and a post op vagina, if you ever get down with a post op girl... you'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesedwards
Duuuuuuuuuuuuh! If you have seen I put up pics of Post Ops TGirls, I don't need to be with one to see how they look. SMH and you got the nerve to call me clueless? You lummox, It should of came to your mind that there are pics on the internet I can see. and another Duhhhhhhhhh My GG has a pussy so ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............ Think about that, there's a hint in it!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigpapi81
You're off topic, should a TGirl Post op tell her partner she had an operation of SRS! Me knowing how one looks really don't fucking matter. So instead of answering the dam question you must think the TGirl should lie, so there goes your word right out the door! can't trust you!
Most guys just want to get their dick wet. as long as he's happy, there's no need tell.....unless he falls madly in love. Then he should be informed.
Show me a post where they can engineer a Uterus, Fallopian Tubes and Ovaries, Plus place it in a man and it fully function, then come back. I wasn't talking about a vagina. And it doesn't say they cane make a UFO in that article.
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Originally Posted by jamesedwards
No he IS on topic. You are the dumbo.
You do realize that all of Danielle Foxx's images of her vagina are retouched right? I think some of the other more famous models may be also.
They don't look real. If you can't tell the difference between a surgically constructed vagina or a real one, then you've a problem.
There's no reasoning with you, you live in your on little bubble and the FACTS are not going to get in your way, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesedwards
Nope, won't go with what you're saying, did you even read the topics of Natina's? You keep thinking I am dumb because I won't side with some of your ignorant assholes. Not everyone will be able to tell, get that through your dam thick head! Stop assuming everyone deal with TGirls on a fucking regular basis! I can care less about retouching someone pics, who said something about that? Again you're off fucking topics, and you have not produced a single factual article on this topic to prove your bullshit and you won't. Just because I don't side with your lummox bullshit I am dumb, you're crazy as fuck!
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Originally Posted by GroobySteven
Ok, here's your chance Bigpapi, show me some facts that all men know the difference between a real pussy and a TGirl's Post Op pussy! I'm giving you the chance to show facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigpapi81
Some of you assholes have went off topic then say that person is not off topic. WTF are you characters talking about a man can tell the difference, wtf are you talking about? That's not the topic! The topic is "Should a Post Op TGirl tell a man she had an operation?" not " Can men tell a real pussy from a Post Op pussy"?
Some of you are pathetic, delusional and spit constant rhetoric as though it's facts and you haven't produced not one piece of fact! I'm a fucking leader not a follower! And when I know something I am sticking to it.
Kinda of new to the boards thought I'd chime in on the topic. I'll be soon in the process of transition, HRT. Decision been long time coming.
In respect to the topic, if I were in that position I'd prefer to be completely honest rather then lead someone to believe I'm something & that's not the case. Perhaps because I'm comfortable in my skin helps me consider that. I just feel its best.
Everyone is entitled to feel different on this. However I believe its fair, I couldn't live with myself being dishonest. To do so & then the consequences of the discovery afterwards. Just don't fit.
Tell'em the truth & if they want to stick around great. If not its ok too. Long as I did my duty. They are free to choose.
I understand the reasons why some wouldn't. However that's another topic to drag into.
Yet for me I prefer to sleep good at night.
See this is exactly what I am talking about! Thank you Vera Reyna, for answering the question and not bringing any red herrings to explain yourself.
When dealing in a relationship, one of the things on the list is honesty, this helps to build a better relationship, if we don't have that then we would live in a lie and the relationship will be destroyed. Even in heterosexual relationships.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE TRUTH IS NOT TOLD AND THE MAN ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW THE TGIRL ONCE HAD A PENIS! SO IT'S NOT AS EASY TO TELL LIKE SOME SAY!
Look at what he said that makes this dangerous!Not only will it hurt the two but children also!:
The couple decided not to have kids, because Jan had two children from a previous marriage.
He said Monica duped him by using sanitary napkins while pretending to menstruate.
"Even during sex, I never noticed anything," he said.
Monica “has also forged documents used here to get a residence permit,” Verjauw said. “The children, who for years have lived with her, are devastated.”
http://www.whatsonshenzhen.com/news-...-19-years.html
http://img1.imagehousing.com/20/5347...4854d8c627.png
http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthr...se-To-Be-A-Man
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Originally Posted by VeraReyna
Man brutally beats woman after finding out she’s transgender; she dies
http://img1.imagehousing.com/67/f680...9a081203a7.jpg
Vaughn Nettles/MySpace
A Harlem woman maintaining two identities on social media (one female, one male) was savagely beaten in Harlem. Islan Nettles, 21, was walking down Frederick Douglass Blvd. at 148th Street in Harlem, NY with people thought to be friends when brutally attacked. It was early Saturday morning on Aug. 17, 2013 when Paris Wilson, 20, repeatedly punched and verbally abused Nettles because he learned Islan was transgender.
http://rollingout.com/criminal-behav...nder-she-dies/
Either way ladies...please be careful...not all men are nice...and god i hate to say it...but the "thuggier" the guy...note wife beater shirt, neck tat and no real job with benefits...the odds are higher he will do something bad.
No problem James. Glad I was helpful. The hate crimes you listed are those main reasons why I prefer to be honest. My hopes tolerance will prevail.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesedwards
Unfortunately ignorance continues to run rampant so it seems the day finally everyone lives, let live openly may only be a pipe dream. :-(
We'll find out.
This was my point, people saying negative things to me as if I don't know what I am talking about yet I pull out facts, and they are just assuming everyone thinks like them, they are so caught up into their one minded view and being so involved with TGirls they think everyone should know and that's not the case. You are right about ignorance.
SXFX is also right, profound what you said!
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Originally Posted by VeraReyna
You're writing about yourself here a little? You deny what people with more experience are telling you about post-op surgery. There are always going to be a few anecdotes about some naive or inexperienced men, who have been fooled but that's not the norm. So you've not pulled out any facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesedwards
You're so caught up in what you believe, you refuse to listen to people with experience, when you have none.
Why open a thread with a question - when you already had your answer and were refusing to move from it?
No I am seeing from a distance of logic. NOT EVERY MAN WILL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE! How can you sit here and say every man should or will know? When I just showed difference pieces of evidence yet you and others who think like you haven't!
Of course I have a thought that's why I opened it. I am not arguing the point that one should tell or not, you some of you went off point saying a man should know, and I said not all will know and yall tried to tell me other wise with no proof. I am ok if a TGirl doesn't tell her mate, but I wouldn't want that done to me, but others have answered the question quite well like Vera etc.
But again, lets keep it on subject!
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Originally Posted by GroobySteven
I would handle it the same way I would handle any kind of "personal" information that you begin to divulge as a relationship intensifies. Superficial flirting and one night stands are one thing, but the more you get to know each other, the more honest you should be about yourself. And as with anything about yourself, you do risk losing that person if they don't like you for it or are put off by it. That's the chance you take.
That said, I have quite a checkered past myself (you don't want to know), including things that have positively scared off potential girlfriends. But in the end, all that is what and who I am, it is part of the person that I am today, and if you don't like it, well, it's your loss. If you can't look past it, I'm just not the one for you.
And I think that's not a bad frame of mind to be in... for anybody.
most guys do not know what a postop transsexual is and they will get fooled.
I WILL NOT OUT A BUNCH OF STEALTH MODELS NOW ONLY RECENTLY HAS JESSICA RABBIT BEEN OUTED ANDTHAT WAS AFTER SOMEONE SEEN PHOTOS OF THEM ON SITES LIKE THIS AND THE GIRLS(gg) WAS GOING TO ALL THE NEWS OUTLETS AND OUTING JESSICA RABBIT.
there is a few TS from some famous lingerie magizines I know that no one knows except for a very few people.In met them in beverly heels at an event.
there are TS THAT ADVERTISe IN EROS AND a few other sites and have modeled for play boy and know one has figured them out yet.
if they marry someone famous people go digging up there pass and then they are OUTED like TULA
I bet many of you don't remember the TS that fooled the world in hustler magizine!!
these guys mostly have never seen a postop pussy up close and they would not know really what to look for unless its a very bad job and not a work of art!
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Originally Posted by natina
they should tell them.
I've been with a post-op girl and it was fun.
If you see the pussy up close you generally can tell that's why it's probably best to not shave down there, the hair covers up and makes it look more real.