How do you know they are not into TS girls...because they TOLD you that?Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
hmmm.
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How do you know they are not into TS girls...because they TOLD you that?Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
hmmm.
WOW "gay lifestyle"?? Way to undermine every girls gender on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaco
how about you truly see and respect these girls as woman.woman that someone could settle down with, love and have a family.im a daughter, a sister and God willing maybe a mother one day. Nothing gay about that.
Marginalizing us is your choice and your hang up.
Im tired of reading and being offended by your internal conflict
What exactly is a gay lifestyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaco
He is just a stupid horny kid and thinks that what being "gay" is about (probably he saw some old propaganda about "the gays" and their wild "sinful" orgy filled lifestyle).Quote:
Originally Posted by livepersona
The only thing he needs to do is grow up a bit.
Straight, gay, whatever....don't worry OP....you aren't "gay lifestyling"...you are just like the other countless young bro's who can only think about chasing pussy...or chasing cock...or whatever else. You will (maybe) grow out of it.
Okay, but why the picture of the Smith family? Yes, they are one of the most attractive families in the world today, but what did they have to do with that post?
I'm going to lose sleep on that if I don't get an answer.
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Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes
Gay isn't a lifestyle. It's how you're born. Calling it a lifestyle implies choice, which in this case is a pernicious way of implying it's like a pair of shoes, the nastiest and laziest kind of anti-gay propaganda.
I never really understood why it matters if it is a choice or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
Even if it were 100 percent a choice, are people saying we shouldn't be free to choose how we have sex? Or choose who we love?
The same is true for trans things. Even if it were a choice, I'm pretty sure I should be able to choose what to do with my own body.
good point!...and a very important one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes
I wasn't suggesting that it matters; I was simply pointing out the negative connotations that people who are hostile to all aspects of LGBT imply when they call it a "lifestyle."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes
I think the point is...they can imply whatever they want...consenting adults will do what they WANT in the bedroom, not necessarily because they HAVE to...but because they like to...it's still no one's business.Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
Using the defense of "I have to do this because I was born that way" is giving an answer that doesn't deserve to be given to people who should simply go fuck them selves.
It also reframes the entire issue as a "condition"....something these "poor people can't help".Quote:
Originally Posted by fred41
"They didn't ask to be gay, they were born that way!"
That is why some trans people feel as though they are broken or are a birth defect (the same with gay people).
Also, the issue is a bit more complex than "this is how you are born" (especially given the plastic nature of the brain). I actually was straight before and had no interest in men (though never was with a woman)....eventually I slowly moved towards being attracted to men more.
Basically, the entire thing just doesn't make sense ...but it has always bugged me how "i was born this way "dominates the public discussion.
Choice or not, who are these random people who feel like they can tell others how to live their lives? As long as no one is being harmed against their will, there should be no issues.
Like you said, they can go fuck themselves.
I am living The Gay LifestyleQuote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
*dispenses relationship advice to female friend over mimosas, flirts with waiter, is really boring*
(to clarify: I am not a television gay man)
Ahh, if it isn't Amberskyi back once again to play the victim and bitch about shit that doesn't concern her. Nothing in my post was offensive but of course you're back bitching as usual. I was not born liking Transwomen, I discovered them through porn. That is why I have problems seeing them as someone I can love, because my attraction for them came through lust. No one forced you to read my post, if you don't like my posts put me on your ignore list. Simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by amberskyi
I actually believe some people can expand their sexual orientation to some degree (not change it)...there is also some thinking that some orientation MAY, in fact, be brought on environmentally and not necessarily by birth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes
...but as you say...none of that should matter anyway.
I don't see why I need to get attacked for my post. How am I not living a Gay lifestyle? If a man is sucking dick, and getting fucked in the ass is that not Homosexual sex? I really wonder about some people here who start playing the victim as soon as you say "Hmm, is it really right for me to masturbate and tranny chase almost every day?" Nothing, I said was out of line, but I can see that if I'm not saying something along the lines of "I suck Tranny Cock and I'm happy! Yay!" people will start complaining and saying I offended them. Its become obvious that If I say anything you ppl don't like you'll somehow spin it around and say it was offensive, no matter how nicely I try to word it. I really would like someone to point out where exactly I said anything offensive in my initial post. Quote me, I'm waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes
Whatevs, but what's with the pic of the Smiths?
Lifestyle isn't really the same thing as just having sex. Especially since you aren't talking about just having sex, but also a range of other issues...such as seeming sex addiction and rather dismissive attitude towards those you are lusting after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaco
I wasn't playing a victim...I was calling you a stupid horny kid.Quote:
I really wonder about some people here who start playing the victim as soon as you say "Hmm, is it really right for me to masturbate and tranny chase almost every day?
Do you know what the word victim means?
I'm having serious doubts about your mastery of the english language :|
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Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes
Go ahead and quote me in where I sad you, Rabbiteyes, was playing a victim. I said I wonder about "Some People" on here, did I mention you in particular? And then you want to talk about mastering the English language lol what a joke. "A rather dismissive attitude towards those you are lusting after". O rly?
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Originally Posted by Flaco
I have a life too also go to malls, restaurant, grocery, cinema, parks... clubsQuote:
Originally Posted by fred41
And sometimes ill meet guys there or a guy will approach me. Then if i say im a ladyboy most of them would get shocked but will stay with me. They wouldnt care and would even hold my hand or even kiss me then go back in my room for lots of fun *wink*
By the way I have many straight guys friends or guys whos not into TS girls like my friends in office before or friends in college or friends in high school. Whenever we are going out they dont have any issues and shy to other people that they are with a TS girl. On the other hand i notice TS admirer/chaser are so paranoid being seen with a TS girl
There are tons of guys that lie...and there are tons of guys who are secretly intrigued but never took that step, but now they have the opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
Since I'm using the word "tons" here....the reality is - there are tons of guys that deem themselves "straight" who would have nothing to do with transsexuals at all...and some only in the bedroom (same as SOME chasers).
No shame in my game :)Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
Have you been in Asia and met an Asian TS girl. In Asia most guys would not know that the girl on public is a TS girl. Even sometimes they have sex with them they still dont know they are TS girl lolQuote:
Originally Posted by fred41
Stop judging me because of your life, my life and experiences are totally different from you. Most guys would not even believe im a TS girl when they saw me in person
There is another thing here that may be valid also...you may be extremely passable, but let's be honest here - who do you think is more likely to openly date a less passable transsexual - an admirer or a "straight" person?...be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
..then they are idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
then what is the relevance?..you should have said guys here in Asia...apparently there's a cultural difference....but since you are a woman, you still don't really know what is going on in a man's head...and I'm not judging you.Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
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Originally Posted by fred41
i dont know youre the one who attacked my post and you also dont know whats happening in my real life and judging me by your world lol
I didn't "attack" your post....I merely questioned it. There's a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
...and apparently you're judging everyone else by your world.
I noticed the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
I went to a trans club here in LA before...and all of the guys were hiding in the corners :| It was so awkward.
Ahaha...Quote:
Originally Posted by ashlyn
There a some guys that lurk in the corners or wear hoodies...and some that don't. There are some boyfriends that girls have that they swear are "straight"...and later turn out to be "not so"...lol
I have quite a few transsexual girls who are friends ant an entirely platonic level - it all started when I helped a close friend through the agonies of her transition some years ago. There's a huge difference between the relative few like me who first encountered the trauma of gender transition in real life, and the majority of guys here who arrived via porn and still see the girls largely through the prism of fantasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes
I don't criticise them for that, but I do get really angry with some of the thoughtless, immature and crassly insensitive things that posters say all too often.
[QUOTE=Flaco;1469333]Ahh, if it isn't Amberskyi back once again to play the victim and bitch about shit that doesn't concern her. Nothing in my post was offensive but of course you're back bitching as usual. I was not born liking Transwomen, I discovered them through porn. That is why I have problems seeing them as someone I can love, because my attraction for them came through lust. No one forced you to read my post, if you don't like my posts put me on your ignore list. Simple [QUOTE]
Anytime anyone undermines the girls and mines gender (which you do by calling ts woman "a gay lifestyle") im going to say something.
It's always going to offensive when you speak to a group of people about how you find sex with them shameful, deviant and etc. You've complained about this several times so you would think you would either stop or grow some balls and accept yourself.
And p.s. jack ass, this is a PUBLIC FORUM in which im a member...it all concerns me lol
I could have written this too! Funny the example of Jessica Alba and Honey Foxx really struck me since I find them both very attractive but hands down on HoneyQuote:
Originally Posted by undercvrslut
But I don't see it as a "problem" your attracted to who your attracted to. Its only a problem if you let others choose what sort of person you should be with, or feel guilty that your not measuring up to others expectations.
[quote=amberskyi;1469441][QUOTE=Flaco;1469333]Ahh, if it isn't Amberskyi back once again to play the victim and bitch about shit that doesn't concern her. Nothing in my post was offensive but of course you're back bitching as usual. I was not born liking Transwomen, I discovered them through porn. That is why I have problems seeing them as someone I can love, because my attraction for them came through lust. No one forced you to read my post, if you don't like my posts put me on your ignore list. SimpleLook at you trying your hardest to spin my words, Fail. Quote me where I said being with TS Girls is a Gay Lifestyle. Fact is, If I had a TS girlfriend I would never say being with her is Gay. But when you pay money to have Homosexual sex (I'm not trying to say the Girls are men, but do they not have Male parts?) and consistently do it like I have, that to me is living a Gay lifestyle. Where in that post did I say anything about sex with TS being shameful or deviant? You're trying way too hard to look for anything to be offended about. And as a matter of fact I'm offended by YOUR comments. You really said "Im tired of reading and being offended by your internal conflict . So my porn addiction doesn't matter? My internal conflicts don't matter? The fact that I'm not truly happy with the route I'm going doesn't matter? Who are YOU to sit on your judgment chair and say I can't speak about my issues because you'll take them offensively? Why do I have to be silenced because I said something you didn't like? Nothing, I said in my initial post was offensive (Or maybe you can quote exactly where you took offense). And so what if it's a Public Forum? Still, doesn't mean you can't put me on your ignore list.Quote:
Anytime anyone undermines the girls and mines gender (which you do by calling ts woman "a gay lifestyle") im going to say something.
It's always going to offensive when you speak to a group of people about how you find sex with them shameful, deviant and etc. You've complained about this several times so you would think you would either stop or grow some balls and accept yourself.
And p.s. jack ass, this is a PUBLIC FORUM in which im a member...it all concerns me lol
Dude, I gotta say, I hang out with a lot of faggots, and paying for sex with trannies is not really the kind of lifestyle most faggots lead! Maybe you're a little too far in the closet, if you can't even conceive of the wonderful breadth of faggotry waiting out there for you, if you could only just embrace it! Go! Open the door, and come forth--abandon the darkness of the closet and go buy an overpriced fair trade coffee to drink while you gossip about who is sleeping with who.
Any hominoid with an abundance of estrogen running through it's veins is endowed with the power of taking your attraction and turning it into a PLUS to their personal lifestyle. Ever since Barbie gave Ken that little red apple, Ken buys Barbie a Red Corvette and a Dream House.
Don't worry about your attraction to ANYBODY female, it's all been worked out long before you were born. Women have you sized up two seconds after meeting them. It's like a career for them.
Out of ALL THE PEOPLE walking around, can't you find just one that you can talk to and understand and like? Anybody over 21 is socially pressured to have sex!! Set that bullshit aside. If you feel alone when you're alone you're not alone.
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Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes
lol yeahhh thats what i noticed also if im meeting a TS admirer/chasers they often very shy and dont want to be seen near me. But if a guy is not into TS girls like my friends in my office before or friends in college and high school they dont have any hang ups being seen with TS girls
Most TS admirer/chasers have so much paranoia in their life living in the closet
Everyone knows Barbie is the one with the $$$.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
A super model, doctor, astronaut, even the US president.
Ken is just a boy toy she keeps around.
ok tried to add quotes, but, cocked up there!!
original thread was 'frustrated with ts attraction'
originally no!! but depending on your situation this shouldn't be a problem!!
your dearly beloved is the love of your life.......apparently!!
the same as any type of porn! what you cant have, you want!!
its called fantasy!!
to have, or to have had, a situation with a trans would be very different!
we, myself included, would be quite happy with the scenario but how would everyone else feel?? family?? friends??
myself?? FUCK 'EM!! but that's me!!
if its taking your life over then you gotta take stock!!!!