Considering your soundtrack, editing, and graphics skills, you're more of a somebody that should be around a LONG time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie French
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Considering your soundtrack, editing, and graphics skills, you're more of a somebody that should be around a LONG time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie French
as always, i hope her retirement is permanent because she finds happiness in other endeavors but i won't be surprised if she doesn't come back.
that said, she was not that prolific and although quite lovely to look at, there are 100s of other performers that i will turn to for entertainment so i really won't feel the loss to the industry as some other die hard fans.
Obviously Wendy and Rally don't agree, but you just keep on doing what you're doing. :Bowdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben in LA
Dont know who Kim Bella is so cant comment on her. But I noticed no commentary on real life consequences of repeated anal sex. IR! The girls I have anal sex with are physicall exhausted after the onec a month encounter, despite all the precautions I take i.e anal sex only after two or three sessions of vagina sex, so she is both mentally and physically in a comfort zone and I am not as hard and anxious/ hyped. Also I try to do anal sex on weekends so the lady is not walking funny down the hallway of her job. Despite all the orecautions, the ladies are sick physically after anal, cant walk, legs useless, on the toilet all day, sleepy all day, etc... i know this is a fantasy site, but if there is this much harm having monthly anal sex, how much harm is done havin dicks in a person ass on the daily?
Chritian mwntioned some of the ladies who have had longevity. One in oarticular stuns me with her longevity, and to be honest, I dont understand how anyone can stay in the pirn bzness more than a day. The people in porn seem shady, the fans are creepy, the money is funny, the fame is insular, America Puratincal(sp) sex thoughts allows as one poster wrote, think sex workers and performers as "hos"...so besides the haters, the funny money, the health risks, dealing eith the creeps and the peeps, the sex bias and laws, working in the ho bzness sounds like a lot of fun. By the way, Puritans are another reason to hate the British.
Jeez, what the hell are you doing to these women? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by buckjohnson
I'm physically tired after anal sex, with some full body muscle soreness akin to exercising for the first time after taking a few weeks off, but... I can generally still use my legs alright. :)
There is no harm in having Butt-fuckery each and every day. Your butt is just a bunch of muscles.
Now if a girl were to take a huge cock that she is not used to, there may be pain and weariness, but to overcome that, one needs to "work out".
By work out, I mean play with yourself constantly and if you have a partner, well then, more power to you. Then you can practice much more with an actual cock.
I get my butt played with at least every other day, and I have no problems, other than like my knee or foot muscle might be sore or brushed, but hey, that's what Tequila and/or Advil are for. :)
9 months to a year before the producers stop calling and move on to the next face. The reality is: there's very few stars bankable on who they are... newness is what's seen by the major producers as a money generator.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantybulge69
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Originally Posted by christianxxx
I like this part... lol
physically sick after anal sex?Quote:
Originally Posted by buckjohnson
that sounds like something totally unrelated and she should get checked out by a doctor.
anal sex when done properly isnt physically or mentally traumatic.take it from a bottom hun
shhhhhh.....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by buckjohnson
This is the bull shittiest bullshit ever said. I've spent years constantly having ass sex, playing with speculums and working some of the biggest toys on the market directly up and into my ass on a daily basis. There is nothing magical about the butt that makes it any more delicate than any other part of the body. It's a fucking ring of muscle cloaked in a bucket of fat. That's it. If the ass was as easily prone to breakage as people fantasize then the after effects of the average American diet alone would leave every U.S. citizen with their intestines swinging in the wind inside of a year.
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Originally Posted by buckjohnson
Jaime you are right most Americans diet are harmful to their intenstines. That said, most American woman are not on the daily implanting objects up their ass. Hell it is hard to get American woman to admit they shit on the daily. Ass fucking on the daily has to be as difficult job as being DV neurologist, or beijg a resident of Texas or Florida or England, or being in charge of keeping my 151 rum in stock at the local bar. Those that escort and get fucked in the ass daily cant be following the reccomadation of the ass dr society.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by buckjohnson
Sooo... you've met most American women?
Also...
Ass fucking is just ass fucking. What sane person would compare it to being a neurologist?
Also...
I'm a lifelong resident of Texas and it's been just fine for 34 years I've been here.
Also...
What the hell is wrong with your English?
Also...
Why are you making up oddly specific yet completely unfounded assertions anyhow?
Are you a little tiny bit retarded?
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Originally Posted by buckjohnson
I was reading that post and scratching my head. Imagine you're a neurologist and you're thinking about bottoming for the first time. Then you hear someone authoritatively say it's harder than a job whose qualifications include getting a bachelor's with a major in pre-med (with good grades and MCATs), four years of medical school, several years working as an intern at a hospital, then a residency in neurology. I know people in their early thirties who went that route and have not spent a year of their life since kindergarten outside of an educational institution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie French
I'm guessing there are more ass fuckers than neurologists for a reason:).
Maybe she make just enough scenes to get good advertising for customers and then get out.
Most porn sex is not very good, lots of starting and stopping and bad positions taken only to facilitate access for camera man's clear shot.
These scenes stay on the internet forever, so customers will see her, google her name, then find if her she is still selling ass.
She think "Ok, I do enough scenes, fans will find me if they want, no more this bad sex."
And she just wait for them to write her or call.
Or maybe she want a quiet life or her family find out she in porn...
In a follow up on Christian's comment on expense for ladies. I'm just curious how much on average do models/pornstars get paid? My educated guess would be $15.000 for a hardcore film and $10.000 for a franks, yum, bobs, etc. solo shoot. I'm into the solo shit and have joined all of them over time. To bad none of these solo sites do it right.
15k?
Really?
Wasnt it more like 500-600 for a Hardcore Scene if they are in the upper Segment of the "in" models?
That's not possible. Even the most known pornstar like Lisa Ann only made 2500 for hardcorexxx scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by looking4TS
I'd say that guess has NO eduction in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by looking4TS
Hardcore most sites/companies might pay $800-$1000 (Kink pays more but expects more). Solos $600.
TS's get paid higher than most models.
i love Hungangels and educated guessesQuote:
Originally Posted by looking4TS
That's unbelievable considering the revenue generated off the product. Sounds like the producers likes to fuck the ladies as well. What a bunch of evil fucks. Guess they've never herd of trickle down or there definition is what's dripping off your face. Now I can see why all the solo sites put out such a shit product.
They are a business, but I think also perhaps you estimate too high a revenue for these products.Quote:
Originally Posted by looking4TS
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Originally Posted by looking4TS
You're an idiot. You have no idea of business at all and nobody is "evil" or "getting fucked over". Trickle down is keeping as many people employed as possible and as many shoots as can be given a year.
The simple economics of the business speak for themselves and any girl who has tried doing her own site, would understand this.
Grooby is making a profit, no doubts, but it's not gangbusters.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
They would have far more competition if the pie was that large.
The fact that most girls make their money escorting should tell you something, not just in this niche market, but in all porn. Now why is that? What kind of living would they have without escorting? I mean, $600 a scene. You do one scene a week, $2400 a month? A $12 an hour job would get you that with a whole lot less headache.
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Originally Posted by algebra1900
$12 an hour job would get you $1920 before taxes for working in menial or dull labour for 40 hours a week.
You need to think before typing. I've got you at the top of my troll list watch.
Most jobs offer benefits, did you factor that into your calculations? Now I'm a troll? Lol, that's rich! It is clear you want to keep this forum strictly for the promotion of the girls, and are unwilling to allow any fruitful discussion to occur. So by all means, ban everyone you don't deem acceptable, pat yourself on the back, and you can keep this forum exactly how it is, I'm not worried.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
algebra...i don't think you are a troll per se...but you are quite naive if you think $12/hr can sustain ANYONE let alone a woman in transition.
while i always will reject the idea that transwomen are precluded from the workforce and MUST resort to porn/escorting...the fact remains that the act of transition is very expensive and it is an expense that ggirls don't have. that is, transwomen have all the same economic concerns as any other woman with the added expense of surgeries, hormones, therapy sessions, etc. taken together, you have to be insane to think a 12/hr job would sustain the lifestyle.
Most jobs at that pay level don't offer benefits. You miscalculated in your eagerness to be a smart arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by algebra1900
You've had 130 posts in 5 days - many of them demeaning. I know you've been here before so it's not surprising that you'd jump straight back into fray.
I don't ban people for meaningful discussion - but I do ban them when they come here with agendas. If you're not worried, pipe down and enjoy the forum instead of typing without thinking.
Christ, the new year really added some great new posters to the lineup.
Often old posters under new names.Quote:
Originally Posted by saifan
What headache?Quote:
Originally Posted by algebra1900
I absolutely understand ones opinion about something they haven't ever done. Everyone loves to speculate. That's just human nature to find patterns and try to put meanings to things.
But. As someone who does live a life of porn. I can honestly tell you, from my personal perspective, that I have no headaches from doing the work I do.
I unequivocally love my career and would not trade it for anything. I do not really escort much as per personal choice, but I do a lot of porn work. I make enough to live stably and I do not have any luxury pursuits. I.E. Material things such as expensive cars, jewelry, games, expensive trinkets, high priced clothes and perfumes, and the like. But that's just me. ( and not everyone is like me, but there are those who are quite similar )
Yes, I do get headaches, but not from my work. I get them from other things such as too much coffee, or had slept oddly.
A lot of girls will have escorting as their primary means of income. But the girls I know who escort, do it because they enjoy the work and the money. Don't get me wrong, I am sure some girls will have the occasional headache from dealing with certain clients. Also a fair amount of girls who do porn on the side, do hold regular jobs. Porn for them is supplemental income.
And to close, I have held many jobs and careers, with wages/salaries ranging from 6.50/hr to 50.00/hr. But I have never cared for such work because of the headaches that comes along with it. Not to mention the lack of freedom and creativity. So to make generalized opinions on a whole group of people without first hand experience and living our lives, is a bit disrespectful because of the ignorance.
No particular offense. Just stating the reality and helping to inform.
Benefit BasicsQuote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
The law requires employers to provide employees with certain benefits. You must:
Give employees time off to vote, serve on a jury and perform military service.
Comply with all workers' compensation requirements.
Withhold FICA taxes from employees' paychecks and pay your own portion of FICA taxes, providing employees with retirement and disability benefits.
Pay state and federal unemployment taxes, thus providing benefits for unemployed workers.
Contribute to state short-term disability programs in states where such programs exist.
Comply with the Federal Family and Medical Leave (FMLA).
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm dead serious. A $12 hour an hour job it seems would leave you with similar pay to porn. Also as someone mentioned TGirls actually get paid more than most models. Now you're saying many of my posts are demeaning, and not only that, but I have TOO MUCH activity on the forum? That is funny. I am enjoying the forum, I suggest you spend less time worrying about what I'm doing and more time focusing on your own work. You say you're all in favor of promoting discussion but the moment someone says or does something you don't like, you White Knight Ban them, like the guy who called that fat woman ugly. What was your reasoning? "These girls have been bullied, and you're on here bullying a fat woman? BAN!" OH trust me, I think plenty, I simply am not going to frame my posts in a way that is kissing your ass.
hey algebra...would you work for $12/hr.
It isn't an opinion, the pay would be similar in a 40 hour a week job without the risk of death due to working in your field. There are risks to your line of work that don't exist in other lines of work. There is a reason soldiers are given hazard pay when they are in combat zones. You could, God forbid, contract a fatal disease doing porn, or escorting. That is what I call a headache. Disrespectful? No, pointing out that you have no benefits, no healthcare, no protection, no worker's compensation, and no ability to save for your future is called reality. The reality of the business you're in, just saying. I love your work, but I would love for you to be more stable while working. What are you going to do when you're 70 years old and you need massive medical treatments?Quote:
Originally Posted by EvaCassini
Of course, I have worked for $12 an hour. You do realize minimum wage in America is $7.25?Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyCola
i mean right now...would you quit whatever job you have and work for $12/hr?Quote:
Originally Posted by algebra1900
You're still wrong on the money but I can't be arsed explaining why.Quote:
Originally Posted by algebra1900
If you don't understand why the guy took 30 days off the forum for bullying - then you don't get this place at all.
Why have you came back here under a different name Tommy?
I don't want my ass kissed, people rarely get banned, I'll argue my corner as long as people put across fair points - but you're basically talking out of your arse and I'm calling you on it - your flagging up all wrong coloured flags and I'm not the only one to spot it.