Boston Marathon

Bostonians are extremely resilient. We don't know the meaning of the word 'demoralized.' Expect a record turnout for next year's marathon.

#boston #pride #defiance #nofear #rip

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My God what is happening? The nutcase Muslims are at it again!!!:hide-1:

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Originally Posted by seanchai

I remember traveling in Boston in the late 80's and early 90's - it's a great city and great people marred by one fact that sticks in my head (I saw the same at the St.Paddy's Day parade in NYC). People openly collecting money to support the IRA.

I truly hope that in the aftermath of 9/11 and other terrorists attacks and what we've came to know about how these organizations work, that things have changed in both those cities and that all civilized people condemn terrorism no matter where sympathies may lie.

Changes happen through social pressure on politics - not on bombing civilians and especially not children.

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Well said Seanchai, this kind of thing is deplorable. I've also heard stories about collection drives for the IRA and dismissed them as urban legend. Sadly they seem to be true.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Bostonians are extremely resilient. We don't know the meaning of the word 'demoralized.' Expect a record turnout for next year's marathon.

#boston #pride #defiance #nofear #rip

~BB~

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Good post, Bella. I know you're a Beantown girl.

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Originally Posted by up_for_it

Well said Seanchai, this kind of thing is deplorable. I've also heard stories about collection drives for the IRA and dismissed them as urban legend. Sadly they seem to be true.

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When I gigged in north London pubs and clubs in London in the 80s there would often be an Irishman with a collection tin at the back of the room.

The enemy within indeed.

So much "news" so much mis-information.

4 bombs? 5 bombs? More than one location? An arrest?

2 bombs. Both very crude.

The FBI has ceased any "terrorist" angle.

You are looking for some dick-head who tried to get a name for HIMself by planting two nasty, home-made devices to kill as many humans as possible.

His defense will be - 1 I was mentally unstable at the time I planned and methodically carried out these inhuman acts - 2 These people are taking over the world, I was within my rights.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. It's time to take the gloves off. If they won't play by the rules, then we shouldn't either. Screw all the bleeding heart liberals worrying about collateral damage. Shit happens and people die, just like the 3,000 at the world trade center, the 8 year old boy and two others from Boston, not to mention the other thousands injured. Lets turn the whole mid east into a giant kitty litter box. You can't bomb them back to the stone age, that's only an upgrade. Fuck ALL you muslum bastards.

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Originally Posted by luvs2lick1385

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. It's time to take the gloves off. If they won't play by the rules, then we shouldn't either. Screw all the bleeding heart liberals worrying about collateral damage. Shit happens and people die, just like the 3,000 at the world trade center, the 8 year old boy and two others from Boston, not to mention the other thousands injured. Lets turn the whole mid east into a giant kitty litter box. You can't bomb them back to the stone age, that's only an upgrade. Fuck ALL you muslum bastards.

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You're a moron. Where's the linkage between this atrocity and "muslums" (sic).

How will you process the possibility, if proven, that this is domestic terrorism spawned by people who think like you?

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Originally Posted by luvs2lick1385

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. It's time to take the gloves off. If they won't play by the rules, then we shouldn't either. Screw all the bleeding heart liberals worrying about collateral damage. Shit happens and people die, just like the 3,000 at the world trade center, the 8 year old boy and two others from Boston, not to mention the other thousands injured. Lets turn the whole mid east into a giant kitty litter box. You can't bomb them back to the stone age, that's only an upgrade. Fuck ALL you muslum bastards.

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I'd like to take my gloves off and slap some sense into you. You can't even spell Muslim - you fucking womble.
Irwin - you're 1 post away from a long overdue ban also.

Irvin seems to forget that the Norwegians have nutcases of their own.

How do u Brits feel about London PD canceling your marathon next Sunday due to security concerns ?

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Originally Posted by flabbybody

How do u Brits feel about London PD canceling your marathon next Sunday due to security concerns ?

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I'd be extremely surprised if that happened and unless their was absolute evidence that something was planned, I'd be against it being cancelled. You don't bow to terrorism.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

I'd be extremely surprised if that happened and unless their was absolute evidence that something was planned, I'd be against it being cancelled. You don't bow to terrorism.

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I really hope you guys don't also. The UK is definitely a friend of mine as an American. I wish you guys all the luck to have the best marathon you've ever had.

Latest I heard it is still very much on - though with stepped up security. They say it will be in part a tribute to the dead and wounded on Boston.

For that matter who is to say tomorrow's funeral of Thatcher could not also be a target.

You have to carry on.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

They say it will be in part a tribute to the dead and wounded on Boston.

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I bet you guys do a good job too. Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

For that matter who is to say tomorrow's funeral of Thatcher could not also be a target.

You have to carry on.

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The list of suspects for this would be endless.

Do we need ignorant and prejudiced fools like irvin jumping to idiotic conclusions.... for God's sake. No evidence as yet at all of that assertion. . And IF it were a terrorist from a militant islamic group. IF... then that is hardly represenative of most of islam. You'd think by now people would know that. That was the assumption before the oklahoma City Bombing and soon found to be false.

I want to share this simple, beautiful image. This is Martin Richard, 8, who was killed in yesterday's attack. His sister and mother are critically injured. His message, "No more hurting people--Peace" is something we should all seek to honor, and remember him by.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...10563100_n.jpg

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Originally Posted by NightmareX0666

Here is the sad fact nothing can be done to stop the violent behavior. If and when they catch this douchebag or the group of douchebags someone will find them to be heroes, we can execute them for treason or whatever the crime will be - they become martyrs. Leave them to rot in jail...but due to the high profile of the case might be stuck in solitary confinement and not with general population where these people could(should?) be someone's bitch! People will decide what they did was good but not good enough and start to do a copycat bombing. I wish there was another answer but there isn't...

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From George "Sulu" Takei...

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Originally Posted by VictoriaVeil

I want to share this simple, beautiful image. This is Martin Richard, 8, who was killed in yesterday's attack. His sister and mother are critically injured. His message, "No more hurting people--Peace" is something we should all seek to honor, and remember him by.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...10563100_n.jpg

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I doubt very much it will be cancelled (unless something is found within a day of the event). Certainly as I type this, nobody has claimed responsibility yet, and I can't help feel that is indicative of a domestic operation rather than an international one.

If it was a global operation, I've had expected them to have come forward from abroad by now to get their name and cause publicity while speaking of the London marathon to create further fear.

However, that isn't much to be basing a strong opinion on (so I won't). Anything can still come to light in the next few days...

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Originally Posted by jennylicious

I doubt very much it will be cancelled (unless something is found within a day of the event). Certainly as I type this, nobody has claimed responsibility yet, and I can't help feel that is indicative of a domestic operation rather than an international one.

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Tend to agree. I also think if this was a larger terrorist organization it would have been more devastating.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Tend to agree. I also think if this was a larger terrorist organization it would have been more devastating.

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I also agree with you.... though there have been some very amateurish attempts at bombings by fools in the UK, so an amateur attack from whatever source cannot be wholly ruled out.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

And IF it were a terrorist from a militant islamic group. IF... then that is hardly represenative of most of islam. You'd think by now people would know that. That was the assumption before the oklahoma City Bombing and soon found to be false.

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Agreed. Too early to assume anything whether Militant Islam or White Supremacists. Neither would be a fair representation of Muslims or Christians.

But most white supremacist groups don't claim Christian inspiration as far as I am aware? They are political - with racist underpinnings.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

But most white supremacist groups don't claim Christian inspiration as far as I am aware? They are political - with racist underpinnings.

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Many do. They use The Bible for their own purpose.

Bring it on Seanchai and Robert Louis too. So my spelling of muslim was a typo....One question for both of you. How many times did you have run down 78 floors of a skyscraper because muslim scum flew a jet into your building. I couldn't bullshit about something like this but I work on 78 floor of One World Trade Center. Thank god I got out but i lost many friends and associates that day. So if I'm a bit bitter about muslims so be it, I earned that right. I never met a catholic, protestant or any other religion hate me because I'm a Jew, just problems with muslims so to hell with them.

Well luv2lick.... you have every reason if you were in the WTC to feel anger and distrust. I'll not even begin to try and take that away from you.

But demonising a whole religion because of the actions of a radical element is plain wrong. We've seen - you have seen - what can happen when a race or religion or culture is demonised by wider society. History has shown us what can happen. The mass graves and barbed wire reminders of eastern Europe are evidence of what can happen.

Yesterday amid the anger of the the immediate aftermath of the bombs one brave soul, from the risky location of his office at Fox, tweeted to the world that "All Muslims should be killed. " His name was not Goebbels. But it might as well have been.

Oh now ~I've just read you angry little post. Nuke the Middle east is the underscore... that's a reasonable response isn't it. if I am a bleeding heart Liberal, what label would you choose for yourself?

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Originally Posted by luvs2lick1385

Bring it on Seanchai and Robert Louis too. So my spelling of muslim was a typo....One question for both of you. How many times did you have run down 78 floors of a skyscraper because muslim scum flew a jet into your building. I couldn't bullshit about something like this but I work on 78 floor of One World Trade Center. Thank god I got out but i lost many friends and associates that day. So if I'm a bit bitter about muslims so be it, I earned that right. I never met a catholic, protestant or any other religion hate me because I'm a Jew, just problems with muslims so to hell with them.

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What were you doing on the 78th floor of the WTC?

I'm sure if I'd had a similar experience I wouldn't be too fond of them either but I don't think they were after you specifically, because you're a Jew. You didn't "earn" any right at all - that's a pretty strange way to look at things, how did you "earn" anything?

However, by that thinking, anyone who survived the Oklahoma bombings would blame it on American extremists and hate all other Americans.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

I'd be extremely surprised if that happened and unless their was absolute evidence that something was planned, I'd be against it being cancelled. You don't bow to terrorism.

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^ This.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

What were you doing on the 78th floor of the WTC?

I'm sure if I'd had a similar experience I wouldn't be too fond of them either but I don't think they were after you specifically, because you're a Jew. You didn't "earn" any right at all - that's a pretty strange way to look at things, how did you "earn" anything?

However, by that thinking, anyone who survived the Oklahoma bombings would blame it on American extremists and hate all other Americans.

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I agree

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Originally Posted by seanchai

What were you doing on the 78th floor of the WTC?

I'm sure if I'd had a similar experience I wouldn't be too fond of them either but I don't think they were after you specifically, because you're a Jew. You didn't "earn" any right at all - that's a pretty strange way to look at things, how did you "earn" anything?

However, by that thinking, anyone who survived the Oklahoma bombings would blame it on American extremists and hate all other Americans.

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I was I.T. manager for a brokerage house. I worked there for 6 years. I wasn't there for the first bombing. I'm done with this topic. I get too upset and it brings back too many bad memories. I was so affected by the Boston bombings I had to take the next couple of days off from work. I have an appointment with my therapist this evening to help me sort this all out. Unless you have walked in my shoes, you couldn't begin to understand how I feel or what I am going through. I relive 9/11 everyday of my life. some days are better than some but it's something I'll have to deal with for the rest of my life.

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Originally Posted by luvs2lick1385

I was I.T. manager for a brokerage house. I worked there for 6 years. I wasn't there for the first bombing. I'm done with this topic. I get too upset and it brings back too many bad memories. I was so affected by the Boston bombings I had to take the next couple of days off from work. I have an appointment with my therapist this evening to help me sort this all out. Unless you have walked in my shoes, you couldn't begin to understand how I feel or what I am going through. I relive 9/11 everyday of my life. some days are better than some but it's something I'll have to deal with for the rest of my life.

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Then with all respect intended, you really, really shouldn't be coming on boards like this or practically any social networks where you're going to have differing points of views, to quell those demons - or at the very least, avoid these topics and look at some tranny porn. While emotions will run strong and I'm confident everybody on this board condemns whomever done this act of terrorism, racial attacks, asking for countries to be bombed or bringing up your own race, can only lead to rebuttals.

This thread shouldn't have turned political or racial until more is known.

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Originally Posted by luvs2lick1385

Bring it on Seanchai and Robert Louis too. So my spelling of muslim was a typo....One question for both of you. How many times did you have run down 78 floors of a skyscraper because muslim scum flew a jet into your building. I couldn't bullshit about something like this but I work on 78 floor of One World Trade Center. Thank god I got out but i lost many friends and associates that day. So if I'm a bit bitter about muslims so be it, I earned that right. I never met a catholic, protestant or any other religion hate me because I'm a Jew, just problems with muslims so to hell with them.

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I have much sympathy for your specific situation and also loathe those who attacked our country on 9/11. I am the last person here many would call a bleeding heart liberal too. But to scapegoat a religion for the acts of a few would be wrong unless you disagree. I fall short occasionally myself but am trying to improve.

In lick's defense, PTSD and it's effects are real. At the same time 9/11 was carried out by an organization with specific beliefs, goals, and intentions. To deny ourselves of those facts is a disservice to our own safety.

We may not agree on everything on this forum, however I believe that we are all on the same side. I'm sure nobody here is a closet anarchist or otherwise evil human being (like those responsible for yesterday).

Yesterday's attack should be a reminder to everyone that we are still at war.
I hate to say it, but it is true.

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Originally Posted by eccentricBlue

Yesterday's attack should be a reminder to everyone that we are still at war.
I hate to say it, but it is true.

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At war with whom?

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Originally Posted by seanchai

At war with whom?

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Those who target civilians and hide among the masses. The cowards who send brainwashed youth out to martyr themselves, and the countries hiding in the shadows willing to lend aid and resources because they despise our free society.

Sorry , just noticed something off topic...DINO - is your signature Dog Soldiers? Cuz thats awesome :)

There's no war. Just a stupid conflict. If you want to know more about a real war, go speak with a Vet from WW2, Cold War, and Korean War.

The bombings appear to be something more like a Tim McVeigh incident, than some stupid mysterious terrorist cell.

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Originally Posted by EvaCassini

Sorry , just noticed something off topic...DINO - is your signature Dog Soldiers? Cuz thats awesome :)

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Thanks. My awesome sig is from one of the lesser awesome Howling sequels. Dog Soldiers is great though.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...born_cover.jpg

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Originally Posted by EvaCassini

Sorry , just noticed something off topic...DINO - is your signature Dog Soldiers? Cuz thats awesome :)

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The guy who directed Dog Soldiers was in the class above me at school. It was shot a few miles from here and has some Geordie actors.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

The guy who directed Dog Soldiers was in the class above me at school. It was shot a few miles from here and has some Geordie actors.

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You like that one too, huh? Recognize the terrain and everything.