If i suck a man cock im gay if a sock a transexual cock im straight.im confused.

I don't know why some of you guys are putting so much weight in the opinion of some TS who've stated they DON'T LIKE guys who like TS.

That's really all you need to know.

If a TS only finds men desirable who consider the idea of TS women repulsive and disgusting, what does she have to offer to a trans-attracted man, except loathing and a overbearing judgmental attitude???

It's all good, it should not matter what other people think anyway.

It's pretty simple dude. GAY is a LIFESTYLE of which sex is a big part. A Hetero-Male who likes TSTVCD, basically loves cock and loves the FEMALE look. I know I am not attracted to MEN when they look like men! I don;t care for hairy women, do you? I enjoy COCK and playing with them. Am I gay? No, I like COCK, not MEN!

I also know that most of us have to hide this fetish(and that is ALL this is) from our Straight Guy friends(allegedly straight!), because anything involving cock and our desire for it will be labeled GAY! I know these things because all I do is check my feelings when I see certain images. I even like watching ugly crossdressers stroke there cocks as long as I don't see their faces! I know I would suck a cock through a glory-hole if I don't see a mans body! Instant turn off! How many of us stick around after sex with a TV or CD? None of us. How many of us want to see a TV or CD as man and then as a female. I don't.

So really it is about COCK and if it is on a FEMALE looking body and pretty too, all the better!

Even TS will call us Tranny-chasers, and sissies and fags because we like shemales and cock. They forget that they are really males too inside and NOTHING they do will change that. They can't have babies, eh?

Don't beat yourself up over this. Just keep it quiet. Heh, I got found out a few years ago by a male acquaintance I knew from a club I was a DJ at! He(she) replied to an ad I had in BackPage and I went over, and she recognized me. Did they care or freak out? Did it bother me I knew what HE looked like without the female look? Yes. I politely declined to have sex with him.

We ain't gay. We just like cock. Would you have anal sex with a woman? yes. A Shemale? Yes. Are you gay? It all is about the cock.

Better now?

A TS who doesn't like guys who like TS is so full of beans it's hilarious! Tell me then, Who the Hell are you going for? Hetero-guys? Really? You think if they discover you have a cock, they wont freak out? You know how many murders have been committed on Trannies who came onto a man who wasn't into shemales? Google it. It's a lot.

And FYI, Shemales are a fukked bunch because they can NEVER have what they want the most and that is a relationship with a straight Male. If he likes shemales, he likes you for one reason, SEX. Add in the fact that most of society doesn't accept this as normal, and your doomed to a life of lies guys will tell you just to get into your panties!

Most likely, you will either go back to being a gay male(which most of you started out as)
or live with a gay man but a normal relationship built on LOVE probably won't happen.

We are a narcissistic bunch, ain't we?!

to the question posed by the OP - who said you're straight? lol

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I am thoroughly convinced that 99 percent of men are on some level interested in pleasuring dicks. For some of us, we like dicks but are completely turned off by the aesthetics of typical straight men and love the aesthetics of women. Therefore, the transsexual aesthetic fits our wants. Because we may sometimes act on it, does that really change our basic orientation? Another reason why labels are useless. Are all men gay because they have a "gray area" where dicks are desirable simply because we can relate to the pleasure of having one? No point in torturing yourself over useless labels. Pussy is great, but so is dick.

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You it the nail on the head there Bigshot! But try telling that to a Shemale who wants a real relationship! They don't understand we Hetero-men see it purely from a sexual view. They are like a diabetic in a candy store. They want it, but they can't have it because it just wont mix with their situation in life and could be harmful. Same thing, if I start dating a Shemale(and I have secretly several times here in LA), and made it public, my guy friends would be shocked and call me gay and my family probably wouldn't like it either.

Know this. MOST Shemales are messed up in the head and it gets worse as they age. You can go on Youtube and watch the ramblings of several once young High-Profile TS's like Vicki Richter(who FYI started this very Hung Angels Forum) and Sable and many others and they are screwed up. They ramble on and go from one extreme to another! Some even committed suicide(Jezebel).

So, don;t knock yourselves out trying to figure this out or get insulted by a shemale who get's angry because really, they are just screwed up little boys who found thier mommies make-up.

Some Shemales do have normal relationships but you can bet it is with shemales who look passable and not like drag queens! Gia Darling is one. But the guy, I am betting, doesn't have many straight guy friends and he doesn't bring her home to the family for Thanksgiving! :dancing:

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like Vicki Richter(who FYI started this very Hung Angels Forum)

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No she didn't

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So, don;t knock yourselves out trying to figure this out or get insulted by a shemale who get's angry because really, they are just screwed up little boys who found thier mommies make-up.

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You're on thin ice - read the rules.

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Originally Posted by PatrickLA

Gia Darling is one. But the guy, I am betting, doesn't have many straight guy friends and he doesn't bring her home to the family for Thanksgiving! :dancing:

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Apparently, his family has no problem and he's got a lot of straight friends (if rugby players and military are mainly made up of "straight" men.

Guys that into cock shouldn't presume to speak for everyone's tastes. Maybe for you, but I don't see it as all about dick.

If you're into TS because you have a cock obsession but prefer that it be dressed up in smooth skin, boobs and makeup, that's just different than how I see it. But whatever works.

In a weird way you're confirming what Jamie was bitching about in the first place!!lol

Truthfully,this is stupid shit....

The ONLY person that knows you well enough to label you.....is you.

Calling a guy a fag or a homo because he likes the girls here is just as bad as the guy that comes here and calls you men.

I also find it disturbing that anyone here could call themselves a woman but say any man that even KIND OF likes them is a fag...I mean,I'm crazy....but I wouldn't call anyone that finds me attractive a psycho...

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Originally Posted by PatrickLA

It's pretty simple dude. GAY is a LIFESTYLE of which sex is a big part. A Hetero-Male who likes TSTVCD, basically loves cock and loves the FEMALE look. I know I am not attracted to MEN when they look like men! I don;t care for hairy women, do you? I enjoy COCK and playing with them. Am I gay? No, I like COCK, not MEN!

I also know that most of us have to hide this fetish(and that is ALL this is) from our Straight Guy friends(allegedly straight!), because anything involving cock and our desire for it will be labeled GAY! I know these things because all I do is check my feelings when I see certain images. I even like watching ugly crossdressers stroke there cocks as long as I don't see their faces! I know I would suck a cock through a glory-hole if I don't see a mans body! Instant turn off! How many of us stick around after sex with a TV or CD? None of us. How many of us want to see a TV or CD as man and then as a female. I don't.

So really it is about COCK and if it is on a FEMALE looking body and pretty too, all the better!

Even TS will call us Tranny-chasers, and sissies and fags because we like shemales and cock. They forget that they are really males too inside and NOTHING they do will change that. They can't have babies, eh?

Don't beat yourself up over this. Just keep it quiet. Heh, I got found out a few years ago by a male acquaintance I knew from a club I was a DJ at! He(she) replied to an ad I had in BackPage and I went over, and she recognized me. Did they care or freak out? Did it bother me I knew what HE looked like without the female look? Yes. I politely declined to have sex with him.

We ain't gay. We just like cock. Would you have anal sex with a woman? yes. A Shemale? Yes. Are you gay? It all is about the cock.

Better now?

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holy shit. this is... like... the best thing i've read here. seriously! wow. epic truth

http://i.imgur.com/sXfgn.gif

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Originally Posted by Chaos

The ONLY person that knows you well enough to label you.....is you.

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i do not agree with this. you know why? i could call myself superman or label myself the greatest lover in the universe. does that make it true?

do you know how many people claim they're innocent when they're actually guilty?

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Originally Posted by bluesoul

holy shit. this is... like... the best thing i've read here. seriously! wow. epic truth

http://i.imgur.com/sXfgn.gif

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I know I would suck a cock through a glory-hole if I don't see a mans body!

If you like dick THAT much, um....! Sounds a little thirsty to me.

I have to see the tgirl, and I have to be attracted to her even if she didn't have a dick.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

I know I would suck a cock through a glory-hole if I don't see a mans body!

If you like dick THAT much, um....! Sounds a little thirsty to me.

I have to see the tgirl, and I have to be attracted to her even if she didn't have a dick.

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real talk. although, when you quoted me, you made it seem like it was me who said that. and i'm not gay :hide-1:

Obviously there are many body parts that people have fetishized...boobs, ass, legs, lips, feet, cocks, etc. People like what they like. I have my own cock so I really don't need another, but if a super hot girl has one hanging off her it's not a deal breaker.

What I would or wouldn't do with a cock would depend on who it was attached to, not just that it's there.

I also wonder why some TG women insist that the guys that find them attractive are gay. If you are a woman trapped in a man's body, and I find you attractive, aren't I still attracted to a woman?

Anyway you slice it, people just like what they like.

I guess we all vary, to a certain degree as to what and what not we like. No rights or wrongs, just our preferences.

Personally, I would NEVER suck a cock, period! I do like to look at tranny's though. A handjob is the most I could muster up to, in real life.

Just do whatever trips your trigger. Have fun. I won't do anal either. Should you choose to, go for it and have fun!

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I also wonder why some TG women insist that the guys that find them attractive are gay. If you are a woman trapped in a man's body, and I find you attractive, aren't I still attracted to a woman?

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what if they are lying? some trannies have been accused of actually being homosexual men in disguise. an example would be jamie markham what happens then?

Now there's girls in the TS community that become TS's for money and other reasons and don't see themselves as woman those give a BAD reputation for the ones that truly feel like woman.

And for the guys that feel and generalize we all are guys deep down than you should be label as a closet queen cocksucker son of a bitch...

"PatrickLA" TS don't forget were guys ... we knew we were woman since we were born so to me your logic sounds very PORN logic, very moronic, naive and a fetishized believer by what you're saying. How the fuck whoreson chutney ferret are you straight, yet you see us a boys and guys??? Delusional ... education is a must.. you sound like a sad case peter puffer . Btw, most gays think like that....

And for the guys that are saying "am not gay" you probably guys are .... no body is saying you're gay in this thread. No need to say you're aren't gay if you really aren't ...
There's also bi and bi-curious labels etc etc...please chose wisely lol

I notice that there is a pattern with bluesoul, PatrickLA, tsmounting, nysprod .... you guys fetishized whoreson cocksuckers living in a delusional fantasy....
Like i said you guys will be very welcome to lbgt community ....

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There's also bi and bi-curious labels etc etc...please chose wisely lol

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oh snap! i hope i get it right

http://www.impactlab.net/wp-content/...gsjeopardy.jpg

I don't believe it! You can say what you want. Not buying it. You make a living off shemales so you will back them at all cost. But I know out here, in the REAL world, that being with a transsexual isn't acceptable. Maybe in Thailand or WeHo but not in most of this country.

Can't convince me.

And sorry about the comment I made. True or not, I guess some things shouldn't be said in an OPEN forum? Honesty? lol You read some of the comments the Trannies make? C'mon! Be fair! No double standards!

And I have enough money to pay for sex and I gladly do because I get to AVOID all the drama and say Good-bye when I am through!! I love prostitution! Thanks Charlie Sheen!

obviously the Forum admin doesn't think so or agree. Can't bite the hands that feed you I guess!

They do it for the money or they want to sleep with a straight guy. ALL shemales want to have sex with a straight man because it validates them as women! If they screwed gay guys, not the same result. Gay men are like women trapped in a males body.

And I like Jamie Markham in drag. I had her sister about 5 years ago and she was as female as they get for a TS!

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They do it for the money or they want to sleep with a straight guy. ALL shemales want to have sex with a straight man because it validates them as women! If they screwed gay guys, not the same result. Gay men are like women trapped in a males body.

And I like Jamie Markham in drag. I had her sister about 5 years ago and she was as female as they get for a TS!

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who's saying that the men TS sleep with are straight ? .DUMB.. errrrrr stupid ....

BTW gay men don't desire to be females or feel like females thats why they stay as boys and date boys..

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And I like Jamie Markham in drag. I had her sister about 5 years ago and she was as female as they get for a TS!

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congrats buddy. you know that money you paid for the sexual services you received are now being put towards helping the less fortunate- so in a way, i actually have you to thank

Sorry,but if you are a girl and call me gay for wanting to please you sexually,then it's YOUR issue not mine...YOU are identifying yourself as male if that's the case.

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"Baby Got Dick"

[Intro]
Oh, my, god. Becky, look at her cock.
It is so big. [scoff] She looks like,
one of those rap guys' girlfriends.
But, you know, who understands those rap guys? *scoff*
They only talk to her, because,
she looks like a total prostitute, 'kay?
I mean, her cock, is just so big.
I can't believe it's just so round, it's like,
out there, I mean - gross. Look!
She's just so ... Tranny!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like big cocks and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a stiff thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
'Cause you notice that cock was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that cock you got makes me so horny
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupie
I've seen them dancin'
To hell with romancin'
She's sweat, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' no cocks are the thing
Take the average transfan and ask him that
She gotta pack much dick
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the cock? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy cock!
Baby got dick!

(LA face with Oakland booty)
Baby got dick!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like 'em firm and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself, I'm actin' like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double-up, ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
'Cause silicone parts are made for boobs
I want 'em real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mix-a-Lot's in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Knock-kneeded bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sisters, I wanna get with ya
I won't cuss or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna *fuck*
Till the break of dawn
Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So, ladies! {Yeah!} Ladies! {Yeah}
If you wanna roll in my Mercedes {Yeah!}
Then turn around! Stick it out!
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got dick!

Baby got dick!
Yeah, baby ... when it comes to females, Cosmo ain't got nothin'
to do with my selection. 36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3".

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a penis in the front of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none
Unless you've got dick, hun
You can do side bends or sit-ups,
But please don't lose that cock
Some brothers wanna play that "hard" role
And tell you that the cock ain't gold
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that!
'Cause your waist is small and your curves are kickin'
And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
To the beanpole dames in the magazines:
You ain't it, Miss Thing!
Give me a sister, I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
'Cause his girls are on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And I pull up quick to get wit 'em
So ladies, if the cock is round,
And you want a triple X throw down,
Dial 1-900-MIXALOT
And kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got dick!

(Little in the middle but she got much dick) [4x]

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Fucking awesome, just awesome !!!!!!!!!! Laughing my ass off right now !!!!

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Transphobic Techno (Bitch Got a Penis) - (Your Favorite Martian music video) - YouTube

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Hilarious video man....and awesome song, too!!!!

Do you suck much cock?

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Originally Posted by Bigshot88

I am thoroughly convinced that 99 percent of men are on some level interested in pleasuring dicks. For some of us, we like dicks but are completely turned off by the aesthetics of typical straight men and love the aesthetics of women. Therefore, the transsexual aesthetic fits our wants. Because we may sometimes act on it, does that really change our basic orientation? Another reason why labels are useless. Are all men gay because they have a "gray area" where dicks are desirable simply because we can relate to the pleasure of having one? No point in torturing yourself over useless labels. Pussy is great, but so is dick.

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I have an example, on the basically straight hobby board thehobbyhunter.com TS Isabella does ads and has a total of 70 posts. Her profile has been viewed 10,000 times. Yes she is an incredibly attractive woman but a lot of straight guys were checking her out - curious for sure.

So there are straight guys that will only be with their wife, and needed her to be a virgin when they wed. At the far end of the spectrum is the gay guy that wants two new guys each day.

I did a self test last month, visited Tgirltuesday in Long Beach. There were cute Tgirls, not so cute Tgirls, TV's, CD's, et al. There was a room full of guys also that were on the hunt - some seemed to be the same guys that try and pick up women at clubs, some seemed gay, a range.

Well I found that if the Tgirl vibed as a woman I was attracted, even some that were not attractive. Tgirls that didn't vibe that way I wasn't attracted, the TV's and CD's I must say I felt aversion to - as in NO way, all the more so as they vibed male or gay male. Some CD's tried to pick me up - no thanks.

So I like fem Tgirls, I am sure that doesn't fit into "straight" but its probably some variant of bi. I am just glad I found it. Dick is great, but so is Pussy.

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So I like fem Tgirls, I am sure that doesn't fit into "straight" but its probably some variant of bi. I am just glad I found it. Dick is great, but so is Pussy.

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I like your honesty.

Im sort of stealing from others here (Bailey Jay Radio) but this is how it makes sense to me (when I force myself to make sense of it) Sarina Valentina has a penis, if Brad Pitt had a vagina and If I was in charge of the world I would choose to wake up next to a beautiful angel with a hard on like Sarina every time and never even consider the other option. Maybe some day I'll wonder what that "makes" me.

For some reason I feel the need to explain myself....so,yeah..

If I'm with a girl,I'm there for her....Not what's between her legs.
That might happen,though,and if it does....still there for her.
If a girl I like lifts her skirt and says "Blow Me?" Well, like I said,what's there doesn't matter...I'm there for HER. So,yes, I would,if that was where the moment was heading...
Now,if I was with a girl and she lifted her skirt and said "This is off limits." ?
No difference...still there for her,and there would be plenty to do still,if it led to sex.
Would I worry about being Gay or not? Fuck No! Why would I? I'm not with a MAN,now am I? Bi? Nope.Again,I'm not with a MAN.
What can I say? It KILLS me sometimes that you fight so hard to be accepted,and yet when you get angry enough,some of you are the first to alienate ALL of that acceptance....especially from your own self..

I realize I'm letting my heart bleed on a porn forum,so what? I'd rather be honest,and make you see me,than pander so all you see is a faceless fan.

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Originally Posted by jamiethewild

I notice that there is a pattern with bluesoul, PatrickLA, tsmounting, nysprod .... you guys fetishized whoreson cocksuckers living in a delusional fantasy....
Like i said you guys will be very welcome to lbgt community ....

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Whatever...

Who cares what you are. Just suck and enjoy. Penis and panties, what a combination.

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Originally Posted by robertlouis

Labels narrow definitions unnecessarily and are often used to threaten and oppress - and I'm not just talking about tg sex.

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yeah, money and social classes are abused similarly.

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Originally Posted by Chaos

For some reason I feel the need to explain myself....so,yeah..
Would I worry about being Gay or not? Fuck No! Why would I? I'm not with a MAN,now am I? Bi? Nope.Again,I'm not with a MAN.

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if you weren't worried about being gay or not, you wouldn't "feel the need to explain" yourself

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I'm not with a MAN,now am I? Bi? Nope.Again,I'm not with a MAN.

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bissexual people are the ones that don't care what's between the legs. straight specify that the partner is the opposite sex and thus will have the opposite complimentary genitalia

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straight specify that the partner is the opposite sex and thus will have the opposite complimentary genitalia

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So a TS will always be a man as long as she has her penis?

This silly assed thread has gone 8 pages and I have yet to see the obvious label.

TRANS ATTRACTED MALE. (One who likes women and transgendered individuals.)

If you like men exclusively and are a man you are gay.

If you like men and women you are bisexual.

If you like women but are somewhat interested in what it might be like to be with a dude you are bicurious.

If you are exclusively attracted to women you are heterosexual.

If you insist on slapping your silly assed labels on others that don't fit you are an asshole.

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This silly assed thread has gone 8 pages and I have yet to see the obvious label.

TRANS ATTRACTED MALE. (One who likes women and transgendered individuals.)

If you like men exclusively and are a man you are gay.

If you like men and women you are bisexual.

If you like women but are somewhat interested in what it might be like to be with a dude you are bicurious.

If you are exclusively attracted to women you are heterosexual.

If you insist on slapping your silly assed labels on others that don't fit you are an asshole.

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I would prefer to have sex with a goat.